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    Any body else have any concerns about Paul George? I know that the season has just began, but I have a few worries.

    1. The "deer in the headlights" look that he has. I know that he is only a rookie, but I really can't stand the fact that he just doesn't look comfortable out there. After watching Eric Bledsoe, whom we passed on, Bledsoe blends into the flow of a game and already looks like a veteran. I understand that they play different positions, but I really wish that Paul would look more relaxed and confident.

    2. I can't help but make the comparison to Jonathan Bender. The same things were said about Bender like how he has so much "potential", how we need to be "patient" with his development, and how "athletic" he is.

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    He's a rookie, get back with me in two years about these concerns

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    He'll be great if he puts his money where his mouth is.

    I think we have little to worry about.

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    2. I can't help but make the comparison to Jonathan Bender. The same things were said about Bender like how he has so much "potential", how we need to be "patient" with his development, and how "athletic" he is.
    Yeah, they are identical situations except for the fact that one had chronic and career ending knee problems and the other is just a young rookie getting adjusted to the pro game after playing 123 minutes in 7 games in his entire pro career. Great comparison. /sarcasm

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    I'm more concerned with Lance, and he'd likely play without the deer in the headlights look.

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    Why is anyone worried about PG 10 games into his rookie season?

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    Only thing to be worried about is JOB destroying his confidence.

    Point 1. He's a rookie.
    Point 2. Bender had injury issues only.

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    My only concern is the idea that he can play "guard". You can tell from looking at him that he's a natural, almost prototype forward. Just let him be.

    And the things that he hasn't done well (handle the ball in traffic, defend quicker players) he's probably never going to do well because he's a forward.

    He should be learning how to match his "style" into the coach's system (note, no need for editorial comments on the system. I don't like it either), not learning a new position. If you think he's got the deer-in-the-headlights look, that's the reason.

    Once he proves he's successfully made the leap from a non-major college program to the NBA, (in other words, in a couple of years), then you can think about having him learn a new position.
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    My only concern is the idea that he can play "guard". You can tell from looking at him that he's a natural, almost prototype forward. Just let him be.
    That seems to be something of a trend with our organization. We have played Dunleavy out of position since he got here. I understand that wing positions are largely interchangeable, but I think we have taken that to a bit of an extreme. I agree that George is much more of a SF than SG, just as Mike Dunleavy is. On that note, I never liked the idea of Lance Stephenson at the point. I get that he has decent handles, but he is not ever going to be a point guard. That dude is a shooting guard all the way, stop trying to make him into something he isn't.

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    Jay, what is so much more difficult about learning shooting guard as opposed to small forward?

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    I thought the common perception of Paul George was that he is a work in progress with tremendous upside. I don't understand why he is doubted at all, especially with just ten games into the season.

    JOB did the benching with Hibbert and Rush in their first seasons as well and I am sure that PG eventually emerges from this situation strengthened. That his confidence isn't sky-high at this point is obvious, but I am not in the least concerned that he'll put it together and become a fundamental piece of this franchise within a couple of years from now.

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    I'm not yet convinced he can't guard 2's. I seem to notice them getting by him the most when he's being picked off or falls asleep. I tend to like what I see when he guards someone in isolation.

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    So only 10 games into the season and you are freaking out about a rookie?

    Not all rookies are going to come in and take the league by storm. George has a lot of learning to do and it will take some time.

    Like UB said call me in 2 years and if he is still playing like this then yes it is time to be concerned.

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    He just has to think through things right now at this level.

    This time next year, it will START to become instinct.

    Like Buck said, talk to me in two years.

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    JOB gets stronger and stronger. Took him at least a year to ruin Rush and Hibbert, now he is able to ruin Paul George in a training camp + 10 games.

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    He's still learning and getting used to the Pacers and the NBA.

    Give him a few years to be an effective.

    I'm looking forward to a future SG rotation of him and Brandon.
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    For right now, as a rookie, I can see why he is getting limited minutes. He is kind of lost on offense. When he got the ball the offense would slow down and he would just stand there a couple of times. One time he just threw the ball into the stands. I think he is thinking to much out there and not just playing wthin the flow of the game.

    I am like most everyone else, just give him time. Rush started looking good around Feb. or March of his rookie year. Hopefully George can do that and just be more constitent than Rush has been after that.

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    I thought it was already well established before we even drafted George that he is still very raw. He only played a single season of college ball, and not for a high-profile team, either.

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    1. The "deer in the headlights" look that he has. I know that he is only a rookie, but I really can't stand the fact that he just doesn't look comfortable out there. After watching Eric Bledsoe, whom we passed on, Bledsoe blends into the flow of a game and already looks like a veteran. I understand that they play different positions, but I really wish that Paul would look more relaxed and confident.

    2. I can't help but make the comparison to Jonathan Bender. The same things were said about Bender like how he has so much "potential", how we need to be "patient" with his development, and how "athletic" he is.

    I like the fact that George isn't trying to dominate and take over. That shows humility and a willingness to play team ball. Considering how athletic he obviously is, I think that's a huge positive.

    You're giving up on him way to soon. It's only 10 games into his rookie season. So far I've liked everything I've seen from him.

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    I thought it was already well established before we even drafted George that he is still very raw. He only played a single season of college ball, and not for a high-profile team, either.
    He played two years, I believe.

    What amazes me is that he came into Fresno State as a big man. The fact that he even looks like an NBA small forward, let alone a maybe-sorta-possibly a SG, is remarkable.

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    He played two years, I believe.

    What amazes me is that he came into Fresno State as a big man. The fact that he even looks like an NBA small forward, let alone a maybe-sorta-possibly a SG, is remarkable.
    Ya he was a big man all the way up to his 2nd yr at Fresno. He looks really good for only playing the wing postionfor 1 yr
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    No concerns at all... I'll echo previous posts by saying he is just a rookie, his time will come.
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    Jay, what is so much more difficult about learning shooting guard as opposed to small forward?
    Its hard to teach quickness. Its hard to teach "being a couple inches shorter". Its hard to teach, "don't be so tall - you're dribbling the ball too high in traffic."

    He's too big to play guard. It has nothing to do with "learning", although once he has figured out how to play forward, you could try to figure out if you can play one guard, three forwards and a center. The key is forcing the opponent to go big like that.

    One could also argue that we try to play with one guard, three forwards and a center with Dunleavy. One would also argue that Dunleavy is too tall, too long, too slow to really play against the majority of NBA guards. And just because George is quicker than Dunleavy doesn't make him a guard, either. And one could also follow-up that argument by acknowledging that Dunleavy has some great "facilitation" skills that give him a unique advantage at guard. Time will tell if George truly has any great "guard" skills that allow him to play out of position like that.
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    He played two years, I believe.

    What amazes me is that he came into Fresno State as a big man. The fact that he even looks like an NBA small forward, let alone a maybe-sorta-possibly a SG, is remarkable.
    I didn't say SF, I said F. With a little more bulk (he's only 20, he isn't done growing so he'll get stronger even if he isn't trying to bulk up), I like what he and Danny could be able to bring at the two forward spots. Neither of them are prototype 3's, nor are they prototype 4's. They are just forwards.

    If Rush isn't the long-term answer as a starting guard, then we need to find another guard. There will be plenty of minutes available to George to play forward when he's ready for them.
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    Why do the things that connect us slowly pull us apart?
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    Life itself in your heart and in your eyes, I can't make it without you


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