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    In other news, Armon Bassett was arrested today...shocker.

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    Maybe, but would Creek have gone for that?
    With hindsight I'm sure he would've!
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    You're right we should just fire Tom Crean now before he has a chance to blame this season Maurice Creek's knee.
    That is exactly what I said. Well done. You know how many important things you could have done in the 8 seconds it took you to manipulate what I said and type that retort?

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    And clearly everyone expected a stress fracture in his knee cap after he walked off the court, walked around the bench, and kept letting him try and walk it off for the rest of time that was left on the clock.

    That's why they let him walk around like that, they said hey we can tell you already have a stress fracture might as well put more weight on it!
    It's not like he was hopping around and jumping on it. He was gingerly walking around. Obviously, if he had blown out an ACL, he wouldn't have been able to walk around at all, so that was the good sign with his walking. But I've strolled around for days with a stress fracture in my foot before going to the doctor about it. I'm no medical professional, but I knew just because he was walking around didn't mean he was fine. Had he come back in the game, then I probably would have assumed he was fine.

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    Oh well, just a depressing day all around. Sorry if I came off short earlier.

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    Oh well, just a depressing day all around. Sorry if I came off short earlier.


    It's cool. I am pretty frisky today as well.

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    I'm happy with that effort. Close throughout, we just need to learn how to finish games. We start panicking and take crappy shots when we are down by 6 or 7 with a few minutes left. Offense looked much more fluid, Hulls is getting more and more confident, the defense wasn't bad (Wisconsin made a lot of BS shots), all in all, a good effort.

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    I'll take that sort of game against Wisconsin on the road from a bunch of sophomores.

    We were really just missing a guy that can always get a bucket.

    Zeller will hopefully help to rectify that as well.

    Have to, and I mean have to go beat Iowa now. No excuses. For Mo!

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    Also, a stat I saw that had me mildly encouraged, is that we are second in the Big Ten in FG% at like 49% before last nights game and we shot at 51% last night. We just need to increase our efficiency on defense and cut back on some turnovers and I think we could surprise a couple teams in the 2nd half of the season, but have to start with that Iowa game. I can't stress it enough. No excuses for losing that one.

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    Wow... I got caught up in the NFL and finally decided I better switch over to the Big Ten Network to see how IU was doing. With under 5 mins remaining it was a 20 point lead for Iowa!

    I certainly thought losing was a possibility but I expected it to be close.

    Jones was in street clothes/sweats... what was up there?
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    Jones has inflammation in his knee. Bad news.

    Still, even without Jones, this was a poor performance. Jones is really key for our team, he's the only wing who can create offense for himself. Without him, we are in trouble.

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    No Jones, no Creek. What can you even expect?

    Might as well put this season in the dump and start asking Cody which number he would like next year.

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    We may very well not win another game this season.

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    I watched. I can't believe there's such a talent gap. It's painful.
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    Yeah, IU basketball is no longer appointment TV for me. Too painful and frustrating to go out of my way to watch. Hopefully next year everyone is healthy and Zeller can help us improve big time.

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    The injuries are tough but giving up 90+ to Iowa? Iowa?!?!? Disgraceful.
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    I just think this team is really mentally beat down. They are young and still have not learned to be mentally tough and seeing Creek go down twice in two years has to be taxing. Then you lose Verdell within the next week, tough to see them handling that well. Now we're asking Matt Roth to defend shooting guards and he hasn't seen extended playing time in almost 18 months.

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    Verdell is a bigger loss than Creek IMO. He is the only guy with a developed midrange game who can create offense on his own. How much time is he expected to miss?

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    Agreed, it finally looked against Wisco like Verdell was getting into a groove to. I've heard it could be a month or more for Verdell, but not a good time table. A month is basically our season though at this point.

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    Agreed, it finally looked against Wisco like Verdell was getting into a groove to. I've heard it could be a month or more for Verdell, but not a good time table. A month is basically our season though at this point.
    Gosh I don't know what Indiana basketball did to deserve all this bad karma we have, but it is getting old. We just cannot catch a break.

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    Gosh I don't know what Indiana basketball did to deserve all this bad karma we have, but it is getting old. We just cannot catch a break.
    1) You fired one of the greatest coaches of all-time.

    2) You hired a guy who had no business being a Big Ten coach to replace him.

    3) You fired that guy and hired a known cheater.

    4) Surprise! He cheated and the whole program had to be blown up.

    5) Injuries happen to everybody. You deal with it.

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    The program was already in trouble a bit before firing Knight, while I definitely don't agree with the way it was handled, I don't think that decision doomed us or anything like that.

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    To expand, the big problem was the way it was handled. It neutered our ability to go get a superstar coach because
    1.) it took place right before the season started
    and 2.) it completely killed all big time coach's confidence that they would have full support of the program.

    That being said Davis was an OK coach, but definitely was in over his head the first few years when it came to recruiting. By the time he almost hit a home run (DJ White, Josh Smith class) Smith bailed to the NBA and White was left with some really questionable upper classmen talent.

    Sampson was a bit of a head scratcher and obviously a major dice roll.

    You can argue that Crean is almost the exact opposite of that. A guy who will get you back to being competitive, re-establish IU and remind young recruits about the tradition, then after 6-7 years of that, you go looking for a ringer.

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    1) You fired one of the greatest coaches of all-time.

    2) You hired a guy who had no business being a Big Ten coach to replace him.

    3) You fired that guy and hired a known cheater.

    4) Surprise! He cheated and the whole program had to be blown up.

    5) Injuries happen to everybody. You deal with it.
    Oh. So that's what happened?

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