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    Default Jermaine O'Neal wants to retire as a Pacer

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    Interesting. As much as people have a distaste for Jermaine these days, if it weren't for him, we wouldn't have been as successful as we were during Reggie's final few years. Sure his contract was a killer but the guy was an MVP contention leading up to that deal so it's not like we could have gotten him to stay for much cheaper. Just sucks that he couldn't stay healthy his last few seasons with us.
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    "There are many things I dislike/disliked about JO, but I refuse to deny that good times existed."

    That said, I do not think he will or should retire with the Pacers.

    He played here. We had good memories, we had bad. Then both sides moved on.
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    I've never loved everything about JO but I have also never hated him. He was great fun to watch in his all too short prime and I appreciate his continued fondness for our Pacers.
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    Default Re: Jermaine O'Neal wants to retire as a Pacer

    Pass.

    If you wanted to retire a Pacer, you would have stayed.

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    What's the shock?

    This is where he made his name. We gave him a chance. This is the organization that gave him every opportunity to make a name for himself, and he did just that. It's good to know he understands and appreciates that. He's not some ungrateful twerp.

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    someone ask what jersey u want to be remembered by that was his response. He doesnt want to come back andd play for us. He just wants to be remembered as a pacer.

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    There are many things I dislike/disliked about JO, but I refuse to admit that good times existed.
    To refuse to admit that good times existed is just denying a part of our team's history. You couldn't find a person in the state of Indiana who wasn't singing J.O.'s praises from around 2000 up until November 19th, 2004.
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    Pass.

    If you wanted to retire a Pacer, you would have stayed.
    We traded Jermaine O'Neal.
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    We traded Jermaine O'Neal.
    And he was making 20mil

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    To refuse to admit that good times existed is just denying a part of our team's history. You couldn't find a person in the state of Indiana who wasn't singing J.O.'s praises from around 2000 up until November 19th, 2004.
    That was a 100% typo on my part.

    I mean to say "There are many things I dislike/disliked about JO, but I refuse to deny that good times existed."

    In other words, many people have soured on him because his game lacked, but what many forget (IMO) is that he did have an A game, and he was having a MVP season for a year or two.

    Sure he made some mistakes while here, but who doesnt. Also, he had to play with Ron Artest and Stephen Jackson...enough said

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    We traded Jermaine O'Neal.
    That's true. But I think JO controlled his own destiny, and while he wasn't Ron-like and publically made a statement, he just urged them to do so behind the scenes.

    JO got what JO wanted. And that was to be moved.

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    Default Re: Jermaine O'Neal wants to retire as a Pacer

    The only thing that kept Jermaine from being one of the top 2 or 3 Pacers of all time was the fact that we saw way too much of this...



    and not enough of this...

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    That's true. But I think JO controlled his own destiny, and while he wasn't Ron-like and publically made a statement, he just urged them to do so behind the scenes.

    JO got what JO wanted. And that was to be moved.
    The pacers also got what they wanted(draft pick, a pg and expiring)

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    1. JO wanted to be moved, IMO, and asked Donnie to trade him. He just did it the right way.

    2. I think the injuries hurt, but he also had a false bravado that I think hurt his game a little.

    The one thing that sticks out in my mind is the inury he got (against the Raptors?) where he hurt his hand/arm on a dunk. That says a lot, actually, when you think of a player and the first or second thing you think of is a injury

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    That's true. But I think JO controlled his own destiny, and while he wasn't Ron-like and publically made a statement, he just urged them to do so behind the scenes.

    JO got what JO wanted. And that was to be moved.
    I'd say all parties involved got what they wanted. JO, management, and the fanbase were all ready to move on. You make it seem like the Pacers traded JO against their will while there was still some kind of desire to keep him around from any side.

    That said, I respect that he respects Indiana for the place that it is and for the class of the organization. Even though things soured at the end of his time here, he still holds us dear in his heart and that shows what kind of person JO is.

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    If you look at the twitter exchange it is clear he wasn't talking about playing with the Pacers in his last season. He was asked "when u retire what jersey will you wear?"

    And his answer is that he wants to be remembered as a Pacer. Makes sense to me along the lines of xBulletproof's comments above and I have no problem with it.
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    and not enough of this...

    You wanted to see more Runi?

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    dont come back here

    we want to have nothing to do with you

    after that trade we all went different ways
    In 49 states it's just basketball, but this is Indiana!

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    And he was making 20mil
    That doesn't change the fact that we traded him. He didn't leave us high and dry in free agency and then start talking all of this "I loved Indiana" stuff and he didn't make any trade demands (regardless of what anyone wants to believe, the Pacers or Jermaine O'Neal have never expressed that Jermaine had demanded a trade).
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    The pacers also got what they wanted(draft pick, a pg and expiring)
    Oh no, doubt about it. I think the Pacers made out like bandits.

    I just don't like the whole retiring with a team after you sign a one day contract, or whatever the length is.

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    JO helped solidify me becoming a Pacers fan so I hope he does retire a Pacer. I dont want to have to sign him to a deal or anything, but NFL teams always do one day deals so a player retires with the team they want too and I would be perfectly fine with that. The man was a great player for us. 6 time all star and he was great in the community.

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    The pacers also got what they wanted(draft pick, a pg and expiring)
    We got Roy's right out of it.

    That was the best part of the deal.

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    I'd say all parties involved got what they wanted. JO, management, and the fanbase were all ready to move on. You make it seem like the Pacers traded JO against their will while there was still some kind of desire to keep him around from any side.

    That said, I respect that he respects Indiana for the place that it is and for the class of the organization. Even though things soured at the end of his time here, he still holds us dear in his heart and that shows what kind of person JO is.

    No, I didn't mean for it to come off that way. But the point remains, he wanted to be gone.

    Will anyone's view of JO really change if he retires as a Pacer? I know mine won't. I'll look at him the exact same way.

    Signing a one day contract to retire with the team of your choice is selfish and dumb, IMHO. It does nothing except boost your own ego. It doesn't change anything, and why do something if nothing changes?

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    You wanted to see more Runi?
    LOL! I actually never had the displeasure of watching Runi play for the Pacers. I was serving in the Marine Corps when we got him and never caught a game while he was with the Pacers. I'm pretty happy about that, just based off of the things I've heard about how he played for us.
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