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    Default Notable NFL Games - Week Seven - 10/24/10

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    Time: 1:00 PM ET

    Location: LP Field, Nashville, TN

    Television:

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    Time: 1:00 PM ET

    Location: Arrowhead Stadium, Kansas City, MO

    Television:

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    Time: 4:15 PM ET

    Location: Qualcomm Stadium, San Diego, CA

    Television:

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    Default Re: Notable NFL Games - Week Seven - 10/24/10

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    Default Re: Notable NFL Games - Week Seven - 10/24/10

    Not a Lord Helmet approved notable game, but the Bears and Skins are trying to out-turnover each other at the moment.

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    Is anyone watching this Bears and Redskins game? They have had 7 turnovers between them in the second half. DeAngelo has three INT's and he housed one of them for 92 yards. Just when one team starts moving, they tuen it over. Unbelievable...

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    The Bears and Skins are trying to out-turnover each other.
    HA! Jinx!!!

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    The Bears and Skins are trying to out-turnover each other.
    HA! Jinx!!!

    And the Skins just doinked a fieldgoal off the left upright....

    This is truly turning into the Battle of Who Could Care Less.

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    Hey Jay, maybe you should try throwing to Carlos Rogers. Just a thought...

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    Is anyone watching this Bears and Redskins game? They have had 7 turnovers between them in the second half. DeAngelo has three INT's and he housed one of them for 92 yards. Just when one team starts moving, they tuen it over. Unbelievable...
    4 now lol we suck the bears are so bad. That stupid delay of game call cost us.
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    Pittsburg better send that offciating crew a game ball for handing them that gift. How did the official in the end zone not see that the ball came out before he crossed the line? How did the guy under the hood not let the film roll enough to see the dolphin come out of the pile with the ball? Pitt fans can spin it like the ref did, but that was horrible.

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    Pittsburg better send that offciating crew a game ball for handing them that gift. How did the official in the end zone not see that the ball came out before he crossed the line? How did the guy under the hood not let the film roll enough to see the dolphin come out of the pile with the ball? Pitt fans can spin it like the ref did, but that was horrible.
    Yeah just an absolutely disgusting call. It's not a huge call in the grand scheme of things but in the tight AFC losing or winning this game could mean a playoff spot on the line in week 17.

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    And I know that we in Indiana didn't get to watch it but man did Cleveland ever lay one on New Orleans or what? Where did that come from?

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    And I know that we in Indiana didn't get to watch it but man did Cleveland ever lay one on New Orleans or what? Where did that come from?
    Maggie the 8 yr old predicted that last night on the Big Ben Maller show. And

    she hopes LeBron tears his ACL LOL.

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    The Raiders are up 31-0 on the Broncos... And the Chargers are still bad...
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    Yikes, Raiders up to 52 with 5+ minutes left in the 3rd.

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    And I know that we in Indiana didn't get to watch it but man did Cleveland ever lay one on New Orleans or what? Where did that come from?

    I think the Saints thought this was going to be an easy game and didn't bother taking them seriously. Big mistake obviously I couldn't believe that guy who took it to the house got in the endzone untouched as if the Saints didn't bother going after him

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    I think the Saints thought this was going to be an easy game and didn't bother taking them seriously. Big mistake obviously I couldn't believe that guy who took it to the house got in the endzone untouched as if the Saints didn't bother going after him
    The Saints have actually been pretty mediocre so far this year, squeaking out wins against the Vikings, 49ers, and Panthers.
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    It was ugly as hell, but I needed one of my teams to pull out a win this weekend.

    Now if D Hall can show up a like this every week.

    Of course any team with a respectable offense (and line) would burn the **** out of him with a double, or triple, move. Oh wait, kind of like the Rams, Colts, and Texans did.

    I really have a love/hate relationship with D. Hall.

    Orakpo on the other hand, me love some Brian Orakpo. I just got his jersey from NFL shop today actually

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    I just realized the Browns beat the last 3 SB champs in the last 3 years

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    I just realized the Browns beat the last 3 SB champs in the last 3 years

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    They aren't a terrible team (but they aren't a legit 0.500 team either), but like many mediocre teams in all leagues, they get up for games against the top teams and compete, then lay a bunch of rotten eggs against 0.500 and worse types of teams. Which is why they usually have a bad record.
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    Pittsburg better send that offciating crew a game ball for handing them that gift. How did the official in the end zone not see that the ball came out before he crossed the line? How did the guy under the hood not let the film roll enough to see the dolphin come out of the pile with the ball? Pitt fans can spin it like the ref did, but that was horrible.
    I agree it was a bad call.

    But what other call should have been made? Nobody seems to be able to answer that correctly (there are some wrong answers, but there doesn't seem to be any other correct answer.)

    It was a bad call on the field to miss the fumble. I didn't even need to see the replay to know they blew the call on the field.

    But once they signal "touchdown", the play was over. It doesn't matter what happens to the ball.

    There were players (from both teams) that did not attempt to pounce on the ball (or had a delayed reaction) because the play was ruled "dead" when the touchdown was signalled.

    The recovery of a fumble in a scrum is not a reviewable play. That's a judgement call. They're only looking for a "clear" recovery such as when a single player has clear possession of the ball.

    Because the play was "dead" when the touchdown was signaled, the officials never made a judgment call about the recovery of a fumble that occurred after the play was over. So there wasn't anything to overturn.

    With nothing to overturn, the only thing they could do was see if a single player was caught on film with clear control of the football. That didn't happen since it was a scrum and the football was somewhere in a pile of players from both teams, which requires a judgment call that is not reviewable.

    Everyone knows (or should know by now) that just because you're at the bottom of the pile does not mean you've ever had possession of the football. Its has two points, takes funny bounces, and squirts around in the scrum.

    And just because you leave the pile with the football in hand does not mean that you "recovered" the fumble. Maybe you did and maybe you pulled it away from somebody else after the whistle stopped play. That's why its a judgment call in the first place.

    What will happen is this...

    Just as referees have learned not to blow their whistle too quickly on incomplete-pass-or-catch-and-fumble situations where the whistle and rule of "incomplete" stopped the play and eliminated the possibility of a defensive takeaway, they'll learn how to make this call in a way that allows them to review both parts of the play (did a fumble occur, AND if so, who recovered the ball.)

    Over the years, the Steelers have appeared to strip the ball from many receivers after they've caught the ball, but weren't subject to a replay because the play was already "dead". That's essentially what happened here. And it sucks for Miami, because they made a great defensive play and yet they don't get rewarded.

    But I don't know what else the referees could have done.

    There was no videotape of the fumble being controlled by any player, and you can see the referees along the goal line signalling touchdown (I think two of them combined to miss the call on the field, it wasn't just a signle referree.) The one thing you can clearly see in the replay is that no official ever treated the scrum like a fumble recovery situation, so the replay was of no use for that part of the play... only that the fumble occurred before the play was blown "dead" and the touchdown should not stand.

    The challenge was successful in taking away the touchdown, and the only other option in that case was to call the play dead at some point in time earlier than when the "touchdown" occurred since the other stuff occurred after the play was "dead". You clearly can't "extend" a play that is blown "dead" as part of a review/ challenge.

    That "dead ball" call has gone against the Steelers a number of times and I don't like it. Its never occured as part of a score but its really the same call. I feel bad for the Dolphins.
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