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    Collison, Posey face former teammates

    By Conrad Brunner | Oct. 15, 2010
    Counting down to tonight's game against the New Orleans Hornets in Conseco Fieldhouse ...

    Darren Collison and James Posey will face their former Hornets teammates for the first time since the three-team trade that brought them to the Pacers in August. Collison was a first-team all-rookie selection for the Hornets last year, averaging 12.4 points and 5.7 assists. Posey spent two years with the Hornets, appearing in 152 games (two starts), averaging 7.0 points.

    Collison has settled in nicely as the starting point guard, averaging 13.0 points and 3.3 assists, shooting .463 overall in 25.0 minutes in four preseason games. His turnover number is a little too high (3.0) and his assist number a little low and he has not provided the consistent ball pressure on defense Coach Jim O'Brien wants but overall is adapting well to the new system and responsibilities.

    Posey has yet to find his stroke, shooting 2-of-14 overall, 2-of-13 from the 3-point line in four appearances. But that hasn't shaken O'Brien's confidence in the veteran's ability to be a major factor off the bench with his experience, defensive tenacity and timely shooting.

    After missing the first four preseason games with a hamstring strain, T.J. Ford will return for the Pacers tonight and step in as Collison's primary backup. The Hornets will be without standout forward David West (wrist).

    This is the last home game of the preseason for the Pacers (1-3) so after tonight you won't get to see them in person until the regular-season home opener on Saturday, Oct. 30 against Philadelphia. The Pacers close out their preseason schedule with games next week at Minnesota (Tuesday) and Chicago (Friday).

    New Orleans (1-2) is coming off a 90-76 victory over Miami on Wednesday night, though the Heat played without LeBron James and Dwyane Wade.

    Tonight's game marks the start of the Hornets' longest road trip of the season: five games in seven days, including a 10 a.m. tipoff in Charlotte on Oct. 20.

    The Hornets have two new starters in Marco Belinelli at shooting guard and Trevor Ariza at small forward. Belinelli is the team's leading scorer in the preseason (12.3), hitting 7-of-10 from the 3-point line.

    Chris Paul has averaged 26.7 minutes, 8.7 points and 7.0 assists in the preseason.

    You can chat live with other fans during the game tonight beginning at 7 p.m. on Pacers.com or you can purchase tickets to watch the game in person. It will be on both TV (Fox Sports Indiana) and radio (WIBC 93 FM).
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    Default Re: Per Conrad: TJ to be primary backup in tonight's game

    LOL..Seth called that one.

    We'll see how TJ does..

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    Default Re: Per Conrad: TJ to be primary backup in tonight's game

    I know I am reaching here but what do you think Sookie

    Possiblty showcasing TJ to infulence the Hornets to acquire him (it was said he was almost included in the Collison trade)

    Wishful thinking?
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    Default Re: Per Conrad: TJ to be primary backup in tonight's game

    How did TJ do as a backup last season?

    Honestly, I can see AJ and TJ fighting for the back up PG spot until TJ is traded or is waived. As a starter that is relied upon to run the show properly with the Starters....TJ may not fit in well...but as a backup PG that is relied upon to do some scoring while running the show with the 2nd unit with passive scorers like BRush...I think that he can do a solid job....especially against the opposing Teams 2nd unit.
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    I know I am reaching here but what do you think Sookie

    Possiblty showcasing TJ to infulence the Hornets to acquire him (it was said he was almost included in the Collison trade)

    Wishful thinking?
    Haha, maybe he can dance outside the Hornets plane and fly back with them.
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    Default Re: Per Conrad: TJ to be primary backup in tonight's game

    That's really not fair for AJ who really worked hard to earn that backup PG role.

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    That's really not fair for AJ who really worked hard to earn that backup PG role.
    i understand but you dont know the real reason for it

    maybe he just wants to get some PT for TJ since he hasnt played all preseason
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    I know I am reaching here but what do you think Sookie

    Possiblty showcasing TJ to infulence the Hornets to acquire him (it was said he was almost included in the Collison trade)

    Wishful thinking?
    Wishful thinking. Well, wishful thinking that'll work. Maybe that's what they are trying for.

    The showcasing thing is so stupid in itself. People know TJ Ford. Yea, the Hornets need a backup PG, but people know TJ's game. If they want him, they want his contract.

    TJ deserves his shot, but then split the PG minutes in three, because Price shouldn't be replaced after the way he's played...and quite frankly, if TJ is anything other than god awful, he'll take AJ's place during the regular season. Whether it's deserved or not.
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    i understand but you dont know the real reason for it

    maybe he just wants to get some PT for TJ since he hasnt played all preseason
    I understand giving TJ time in preseason, but it's been said that he may be the backup during the regular season.

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    Default Re: Per Conrad: TJ to be primary backup in tonight's game

    TJ deserves his shot, but then split the PG minutes in three, because Price shouldn't be replaced after the way he's played...and quite frankly, if TJ is anything other than god awful, he'll take AJ's place during the regular season.

    What makes you so sure it will go down like that?

    Not to say I dont think so, but just curious why?
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    I understand giving TJ time in preseason, but it's been said that he may be the backup during the regular season.
    I think that was not about AJ as more it was Jim's way of saying DC will be the starter

    Then again were talking about Jim , and I dont know if even Jim knows what goes on in his head
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    TJ deserves his shot, but then split the PG minutes in three, because Price shouldn't be replaced after the way he's played...and quite frankly, if TJ is anything other than god awful, he'll take AJ's place during the regular season.

    What makes you so sure it will go down like that?

    Not to say I dont think so, but just curious why?
    Because Jim O'Brien has a tendency to make the exact opposite of the decision he should make.

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    That's really not fair for AJ who really worked hard to earn that backup PG role.
    Don't read into it. It's a pre-season game. It's an evaluation of skills and if/where he fits into this rotation.

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    TJ deserves his shot, but then split the PG minutes in three, because Price shouldn't be replaced after the way he's played...and quite frankly, if TJ is anything other than god awful, he'll take AJ's place during the regular season.

    What makes you so sure it will go down like that?

    Not to say I dont think so, but just curious why?
    Because I watched JOB dick around AJ and Josh all last season. (Countdown for when Posey replaces Josh in the starting lineup?) And it also says "Primary" backup. If it's split in 3 (not garbage time..) then I'll back off. But I expected JOB to do this in the back of my head, but at the same time I just kept saying "any reasonable person..." (Once again, this isn't a "preseason" thing. The problem is, if TJ makes a three, he'll replace AJ during the regular season. )
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    Don't read into it. It's a pre-season game. It's an evaluation of skills and if/where he fits into this rotation.
    Because the previous seasons weren't enough?

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    Because Jim O'Brien has a tendency to make the exact opposite of the decision he should make.
    you know I didnt want to be the one to say it but .......
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    Don't read into it. It's a pre-season game. It's an evaluation of skills and if/where he fits into this rotation.
    I would hope after two seasons they would know what TJ brings to the table.

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    Because I watched JOB dick around AJ and Josh all last season. (Countdown for when Posey replaces Josh in the starting lineup?) And it also says "Primary" backup. If it's split in 3 (not garbage time..) then I'll back off. But I expected JOB to do this in the back of my head, but at the same time I just kept saying "any reasonable person..."
    Wait, not a Jim fan?

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    TJ deserves his shot, but then split the PG minutes in three, because Price shouldn't be replaced after the way he's played...and quite frankly, if TJ is anything other than god awful, he'll take AJ's place during the regular season. Whether it's deserved or not.
    This....TJ has been professional and I think that he deserves a chance to prove that he's at least as good as AJ or even better.

    AJ will have his chance to get his minutes after TJ is gone...so I'm not worried.

    As much as I like AJ and I want him to develop.....as a backup PG....it's arguable who is better....TJ or AJ...at least in the eyes of the Coaching Staff.
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    It's still preseason and they are still tinkering with their lineups. TJ might be the primary backup tonight, but that doesn't mean he is moving ahead of AJ in the rotation. We'll have to wait and see how he plays. Maybe this will force AJ to step his game even more to make sure he keeps the back up role. Competition is not always a bad thing.

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    We still have people saying that when Tinsley was exiled it wasn't right and that JOB should have used all his options.

    Why shouldn't TJ get some time in preseason?

    If and only if JOB then benches DC and AJ in favor of a TJ who went 5-20 and had 17 turnovers, you can all jump on his rear. Until then, let them look at the team in regards to the new rotation and changes (yes, there are changes) in playing style.

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    Because I watched JOB dick around AJ and Josh all last season. (Countdown for when Posey replaces Josh in the starting lineup?) And it also says "Primary" backup. If it's split in 3 (not garbage time..) then I'll back off. But I expected JOB to do this in the back of my head, but at the same time I just kept saying "any reasonable person..." (Once again, this isn't a "preseason" thing. The problem is, if like I said, if TJ makes a three, he'll replace AJ during the regular season. )
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    We still have people saying that when Tinsley was exiled it wasn't right and that JOB should have used all his options.

    Why shouldn't TJ get some time in preseason?

    If and only if JOB then benches DC and AJ in favor of a TJ who went 5-20 and had 17 turnovers, you can all jump on his rear. Until then, let them look at the team in regards to the new rotation and changes (yes, there are changes) in playing style.

    Sheesh.
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    We still have people saying that when Tinsley was exiled it wasn't right and that JOB should have used all his options.
    To be fair, some people still think Tinsley should be on the team......and starting.

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    I would hope after two seasons they would know what TJ brings to the table.
    That's why I said, "...into this rotation." Price has done many good things this preseason. I think they know where they are with him and they're very comfortable.

    Then again, we are playing the Hornets. Maybe they called up and said, "Hey, let's see what you've got in that TJ guy again, we're still interested."

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