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    ORLANDO, Fla. -- The news earlier this week that former NBA superstar Allen Iverson could be ending his career playing in Turkey made Larry Brown wince Thursday. It clearly bothered him.


    Larry Brown and Allen Iverson, 2002
    Brown, now coaching the Charlotte Bobcats, was the one most responsible for molding Iverson into the player he became -- one of the league's all-time greats.

    They were together -- often in a love/hate relationship -- for six seasons in Philadelphia, reaching the NBA Finals in 2001. During their run together, Iverson became the NBA's Most Valuable Player, led the league in scoring three times, and twice was named All-NBA first team.

    "Nobody who has done as much as Allen has done for this league should have to be in Turkey playing, to end his career,'' Brown said before the Bobcats-Magic game Thursday. "We have one of the most special players ever in our sport, who still has something left. I feel terrible about this. That is not how he should be ending his career.''

    Iverson, 35, is considering a $2 million, one-year offer from Besiktas Cola Turka, according to his business partner Gary Moore. Iverson wanted to play this season in the NBA, but he found no one was interested, including the Bobcats.


    He struggled last season with a variety of issues, starting the year and playing three games with Memphis, clashing with the coaching staff over his role before asking for his release. He later played 25 games with Philadelphia, averaged 13.9 points, but he left because of family issues.

    Throughout his career, Iverson (6-0, 165 pounds) has been regarded as one of the toughest, pound-for-pound players in league history, both dynamic on the court but divisive in the locker room.

    Brown said the Bobcats seriously considered signing Iverson last season, but he and majority partner Michael Jordan opted against it because of how it might affect the younger guards they were trying to develop.


    "I remember an NBA coaches' meeting this summer, someone from the NBA staff, talking to me about 'hey this is not the way Allen should be ending his career,' " Brown said. "The commissioner (David Stern) doesn't want to see it happen like this. I feel terrible about it. He did so much for me, and my career.''
    Although most everyone agrees that Iverson still could contribute to an NBA team, they also wonder how he would accept a reduced role after being a starter and star for so many years. It was an issue he never was comfortable with last season.

    "I wish I was in a position to help him, where it wouldn't affect the other guys I'm coaching,'' Brown said. "He needs to be on a great team that has a chance to win (a championship) and could utilize what he does. He doesn't need to be in Turkey.''
    Kudos to Larry Brown, what a classy guy for sticking up for AI. No matter what you think of Allen personally, I love him. He gave his heart and soul on the court and took more beating s thatn any little guy I have ever seen. I really wish someone like San Antonio would pick him up


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    I agree with Larry Brown 100%.
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    I agree with Larry Brown 100%.
    Me 2 but he would have a spot in the NBA if he wanted a bench role.

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    Default Re: Larry Brown: Allen Iverson Deserves Better Than Finishing Career in Turkey

    he can be on any team in the league...as long as it is not the Pacers...

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    Default Re: Larry Brown: Allen Iverson Deserves Better Than Finishing Career in Turkey

    I love watching the guy play so much heart . Like I said I think he could help San Antonio, OKC, Utah, Orlando
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    Default Re: Larry Brown: Allen Iverson Deserves Better Than Finishing Career in Turkey

    If some team wanted Iverson, then he would already be on that team.

    Obviously, no one wants him.

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    Default Re: Larry Brown: Allen Iverson Deserves Better Than Finishing Career in Turkey

    Maybe the Heat will sign him. What could it possibly hurt???

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    Maybe the Heat will sign him. What could it possibly hurt???
    everything lol

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    Larry Brown should finish his career here, I think.

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    The Bobcats need a Guard that has experience running the point.....maybe Larry Brown should help Iverson out and simply sign him to the Bobcats.
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    AI could play for any team in the league if he was willing to fit them instead of making them fit him.

    It isn't like he has been unfairly blacklisted.
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    The Bobcats need a Guard that has experience running the point.....maybe Larry Brown should help Iverson out and simply sign him to the Bobcats.
    LB sais he discussed it with MJ but decided it would take playing time form the young guards

    Translation: "I dont want him coming here and b%$ing about playing time ao anything else and creating a negative feeling around the team"
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    Default Re: Larry Brown: Allen Iverson Deserves Better Than Finishing Career in Turkey

    he shouldnt have to take a bench role either. i bet he is still top 10 pg in league. and i think the cancer thing is overrated.

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    makes me feel old that he is now old
    Me too .. I am the same age (35) as Iverson..

    It's crazy , how the vigorous training and harsh 82 game schedule with the constant on-the-go traveling can prematurely age an athlete so quickly..

    I hear people make the comment all the time , how this or that nba player is old or at the twilight of their career ... yet the same player(s) being talked about may only be 32 to 34 yrs old .. It really makes me feel old.. even though I know I'm not really....

    I don't think age matters as much as how the individual has taken care of themselves during their career..

    Look at Kidd and Nash .. both are my age ... Nash (35) ... Kidd (36) ..

    They BOTH are STILL considered 2 of the best p.g.'s in the whole league ..

    Nash is, and has been EASILY.. a top 5 p.g. .. IMO a top 3 ..

    Then you have Kidd , whom is DEFINITELY in the top 8 RIGHT NOW at 36yrs old..

    I still wish Iverson could find an NBA team to play a few good years and retire with..
    As far as on the court , AI can still ball like it's no one's business..



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    You guys talking about the same douche that isn't signing with Turkey because he needs a guaranteed "cap" on the fines he can incur? If that's not a sign you shouldn't be signing someone, I don't know what is.

    He'd have a spot on a team if he wasn't a selfish, stubborn, washed up chucker who think's he's on par with Michael Jordan.

    Give the guy a better attitude and he'd be on any one of several teams in the NBA right now. This is his own doing.

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    Look at Kidd and Nash .. both are my age ... Nash (35) ... Kidd (36) ..

    They BOTH are STILL considered 2 of the best p.g.'s in the whole league ..

    Nash is, and has been EASILY.. a top 5 p.g. .. IMO a top 3 ..

    Then you have Kidd , whom is DEFINITELY in the top 8 RIGHT NOW at 36yrs old..
    Nash yes

    But they say J Kidd now functions best as a SF becasue he cant guard any PG anymore

    Nash looks like he still has it though
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    You guys talking about the same douche that isn't signing with Turkey because he needs a guaranteed "cap" on the fines he can incur? If that's not a sign you shouldn't be signing someone, I don't know what is.

    He'd have a spot on a team if he wasn't a selfish, stubborn, washed up chucker who think's he's on par with Michael Jordan.

    Give the guy a better attitude and he'd be on any one of several teams in the NBA right now. This is his own doing.
    although Im not necessarly disagreeing with you, but pride is a tough thing to let go of
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    At least he won't have to use deodorant anymore.
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    I totally agree with Larry Brown but pride has been his downfall.
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    I agree with Larry Brown 100%.
    Yep. Too bad Allen Iverson had to go and ruin everything for Allen Iverson. Stupid AI, no appreciation for a legend.


    The guy is an a-hole and a prima-donna. He's made this bed with how he handled the last couple of stops he was at.

    I like how he should be handed a title run just because...maybe not get infamous for being selfish and difficult, maybe do more to lead Denver on a title run when it was a legit contender and maybe just retire when no NBA team sees value to your game.

    I'm not trying to come off as hateful, but AI had 90% to do with where he is at now. The owners don't get together and decide to keep out an NBA icon that can help their team. Freaking Shawne Williams and Ron Artest and Latrell Spreewell all got 2nd and 3rd chances. NBA teams will take anyone that can help them win, their quality of person standards aren't known to be high.

    What they don't like to do is overspend on troublesome vets who might not have the goods anymore. See the aforementioned Spreewell and how his career ended.

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    He lasted three games with Memphis. They replaced him with Jamaal Tinsley for god's sake. There's a reason why nobody's signing him, and it has nothing to do with lack of talent.
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    What did you expect? He's a turkey.

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    At least he won't have to use deodorant anymore.
    Thats not funny I go to euro every summer. My family over there and other people where deodorant. Just different places smell different.( i know u are refering to DG33's tweet)
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    I'm not trying to come off as hateful, but AI had 90% to do with where he is at now.
    You are right. The guy is a prima donna deluxe. I don't think we've heard the end of the AI story...and I wonder if this is not the saddest chapter. I'm thinking an Antoine Walker ending is coming.

    At one point, I thought the guy started "getting it". I don't think that really happened. I think he just became less stupid after about 10 years in the league. I just hope he has better handlers than Fatoine.
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    Thats not funny I go to euro every summer my family over there and other people where deodorant just different places smell different.( i know u are refering to DG33's tweet)
    Not sure what the heck you just said.

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