Who is to say that what works for SA and Houston will work for the pacers? In case you haven't noticed our team isn't working yet.
I don't think BR is much better than other people we have at SG. Battier and Bowen played with some very good offensive players.
I am sorry but just because the Pacers are not a good team does not mean that you don't need a defensive stopper, every team in the NBA needs one, as an example Ron Artest was that guy for the Lakers last year and he only average 11ppg and that is because Kobe, Gasol, Fishers and Odom were scoring most of the points.
I'm not saying that he have the same team as the Lakers but I think is possible for the Pacers to continue scoring the same way they been doing for the past three years and been one of the top scoring teams once again.
To suggest that BR is that kind of defensive asset is premature IMO and D. Jones is certainly not much behind him. So we obviously do not agree with respect to BR and time will tell who is more on the mark. Clearly this board has a mixed opinion.
I don't care about this topic. I wish Jones and Rush the best, and hope they can play their career bests this season.
I just want to say that for as long as he keeps the Psychedelic Roy avatar, I'm going to take everything spazzxb says very seriously. I hated his vicious boxer avatar, but Psychedelic Roy is great.
And I won't be here to see the day
It all dries up and blows away
I'd hang around just to see
But they never had much use for me
In Levelland. (James McMurtry)
However, with all my "hate" on Brandon's game lately, he's really been trying to change his play style.
He's been shooting mid rangers and driving about 10x more than he used too. It seems like he decided to start being aggressive when things were turning for the worst for him.
I think he's averaged about 3 points this preseason. Nonetheless, he hasn't had any minutes.
In our offense, we have seen TJ and Murphy take the shot multiple times. I think Watson as well. Jarrett Jack actually made some....and even Foster back in Jan. 2009 shot an air ball...
Honestly, there are limited times where a last second shot comes into play and I know too many guys have taken part with it. Yes, Danny is the most likely guy but hardly a given...and hardly that effective either.
Back in the day, Reggie would almost always take that shot because the system was geared for it. Not so with this offense. Far too disorganized and Danny is often covered up. Reggie would whip through picks and launch it even though everyone in the building knew with about a 99% certainty it was going to him. Again, not so with Danny.
And how many of those do you think were by design other than Danny? Maybe TJ?
Jack and Dunleavy I think also were ones that were designed for them.
I think part of this has to do with my Reggie Miller upbringing. There is an enormous gap between his ability to close out games and anyone else I've seen in Indy.
I'm generally confused right now- i feel like I died and went to heaven and thats why we are agreeing with each other right now.
Yeah, I feel like Danny does get his number of shots, but we see them run for other people that aren't Danny as well, and more than people would expect/
Neither. I'd rather play a healthy Mike and develop Paul George. If I had to decide I would chose Rush. I like Dahntay better on 29 teams in the NBA. Unfortunately, this is not one of them. As long as Jim O'Brien is the coach of the Indiana Pacers, I do not think Dahntay's skillset compliments the system.
If I were king of the world, and I could rebuild the Pacers and institute a new system, Dahntay would stay and Rush would go. If for no other reason than Dahntay's reasonable contract and Brandon's poor character (I.E., liability).
Mike looks a lot more comfortable shooting in preseason so far which is why I think he's worthy to start.
I happen to like both guys. I think Brandon, who is inconsistent can get on a shooting/scoring role once in a while finish with at least 12 points. Plus he's younger.
As a result, I think the Pacers have taken a "surprise attack" approach in late game situations at times...and it's not been that infrequent where someone else launches the shot. The bottom line is, no one is assuming Danny will always be the guy. I know I don't assume it because I know the other team will have their best defender on him...and so does JOb. Combine that with Danny's limited ability to get his own shot off...and I think there are probably frequent Option 1A and 1B and maybe 1C versus simply option 1.
Edit: So to your question, I guess the answer is yes. However, I think that basically applies to all of our players. That's part of the reason I think it's done by committee to some extent. Not to say Danny is not always an option obviously.
Last edited by BlueNGold; 10-11-2010 at 08:03 AM.
Danny struggles getting his own shot, and he's been slacking on defense and has other weaknesses.
But I have been greatly, pleasantly surprised at how good he is at the end of games. Extremely clutch, in my opinion.
"I like our group of people," Ainge told USA Today. "I'm trying to teach them about basketball, and they're trying to teach me about analytics."
I understand your point but I think the pacers issues in last second shots are not because they don't have the talent but because coaching is bad at drawing plays.
I think that one guy that is going to have a chance to do this for the pacers is going to be Collison he is the robin for our Batman(at least we hope)
Edit:answer to bluengold
Last edited by vnzla81; 10-11-2010 at 08:13 AM.