All I have to say is I am ready for the game tonight. Not a super DC fan but I gues I will have to see how everything goes and hope for the best.
P.S. I hope PG Dunks on someone today...I would loveeeeeee that
I hope Jeff Van Gundy hates being a broadcaster this year, this year, this year, this ye....
Under new coach Jeff Van Gundy and with the signing of Al Horford, the Pacers look like a team that no one wants to play in the playoffs.
I might ask this in its own thread before the season starts, but my question is:
For those of you who are concerned that Jim won't run enough pick and rolls when Collison is on the floor. Give me a % of how many PnR you want. Would 50% be enough, do you want 75%. I would just like to know, sure it is easy to say they don't run it enough, but let me know how many you want, and then maybe we'll look at it over a 5 or 10 (regular season) game period to see what % it is being run.
JOB has his preference for his offense (quick shot off of transition).
But I'd like the PnR with Collison (or Price if he's in) to be the backup plan if they can't get a shot they want. I don't know how often that'll be, but that's what I'd like to see. Or an "option of last resort to get a good shot." (Obviously getting the ball into Hibbert is also a good idea and such, but like I said..last resort)
So the only time I'll be unhappy is if instead of seeing the PnR, we see limited ball movement and poor shots. The PnR is a good option as a backup plan, IMO.
PGs usually take time to adjust to new systems,they haven't played a game yet,and J'OB is gone next year anyway. Is it rreally shocking that a system that forces PGs to play more without the ball might throw a guy who dominated the ball last season off a little bit at first? No needd to panic.
I want so many picks to be set by our bigs that they must wear long sleeve shirts like Georgetown used to in an effort to hide the shoulder and upper arm bruising caused by opponents running smack into them at full speed and ending up flat on their backsides. Remember, Collison never passes the ball unless it is to feed a big. He ONLY likes PnR. It is the only play he knows how to run, isn't it?
Come on. If the Pacers implement a properly executed and balanced passing based motion offense that has screening as a component, there will be plenty of PnR, curl moves, back cuts, and other fundamental plays that will occur within the flow of the offense.
By the way, that also will be the indicator that the offense has actually been changed to suit Collison's skillset, as well as that of Hibbert, McRoberts, Dunleavy, Hansbrough, Rush, Price, George...nearly every significant player on the Pacers roster besides Granger, and possibly Stephenson, actually.
The question is actually if the Pacers are in fact changing the offense. The first chance to see if that may be the case is coming right up, and once again, I hope that you are right about O'Brien changing things.
Last edited by Brad8888; 10-06-2010 at 03:31 PM.
I called this right away he wants the ball in his hands
You guys get worked up far too easily, talk about beating a dead horse.
Last edited by TheDon; 10-06-2010 at 03:44 PM.
I think the Pacers should be running the PnR at least on 40 possessions per game or at least on 50% of their total possessions. Their offensive style should be similar to Orlando, San Antonio, and Miami's (last year with Wade).
For example, the Orlando Magic in games 1 and 2 in last year's playoffs ran PnR plays 61 times and scored on 55% of those plays. This article breaks it down really well:
You can also visit this past thread for more good info (I just added some stats and percentages today).
So the Orlando Magic, with DWIGHT HOWARD presumably involved in most of those PnR's, scored 55% of the time.
And the Miamia Heat with DWAYNE WADE??
San Antonio with TIM DUNCAN???
This FROM the article you referenced: "That information shouldn't surprise anyone, though: as Bradford Doolittle wrote in his series preview, the Hawks defended the pick-and-roll miserably during the regular season, and the Magic ran it expertly. It's a case of one team's strength being another's weakness. To illustrate, here are some data"
Gee, that is a TELLING testimonial to the PnR offense.
Last edited by MLB007; 10-06-2010 at 04:18 PM.
Clarification from Chip Crain:
I can't remember where I read about the pick and roll adjustment possibly causing him problems but I suspect it was ESPN and thanks for catching the Foster typo. Greg was with the Bullets when I lived in DC. I think he actually played for a while on the Pacers too but I clearly screwed that up.
Last edited by MLB007; 10-06-2010 at 04:19 PM.
Anyone know how I can catch the game tonite? Is it on NBA.com or somewhere else?