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    As we all know Mikes huge contract is over after this season and I think we all know he is going to be a free agent taking a HUGE pay cut.

    Over the preseason he has shown his shooting touch and the reason we like him on the court with his high iq. He has also been pretty decent on the other end taking charges and getting scrapy.

    I have always been a dun fan since he got here just because I like players who can do their thing without the athletic ability. But what do we think he is realisticy worth? He seems to really like it here and I hope he stays.

    Is he honestly worth more than D.Jones? Do we give him that same type of contract or do we let him walk?

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    He's certainly worth more than Dahntay but Dahntay is truly worthless thanks to his contact and utter sucktitude. Dunleavy only has value to a team looking to shed salary by adding a large expiring deal. He'd probably have slightly more value at the deadline than he does now. We're better off playing him sporadically off the bench once Rush is back and hoping he can play well enough to slightly increase his value before February.
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    I wouldn't be opposed to bring MDJ back long term in a 7th-8th man role as long as we could do it for less than $3-4M per for a few years. Otherwise we're probably relying on him too much, paying him too much, and committing to him for too long.

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    He is not worth much, his only value is as an expiring contract and right now the market is full of expiring contracts.

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    I hope he's not a Pacer after this year... he's probably worth more to as us cap relief than anything else, I assume we'll let him expire.

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    He'd make a good backup on a good team. I would like to see him stay and play with the second unit.

    BTW, he was playing line an all-star just 2.5 years ago. It would be a shame to not benefit from any resurgence.

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    Did you see Dahntay last night? He looked like he couldn't even hold down our 15th roster spot. When you're a veteran and a 3rd year guy who is just now cracking the rotation of a team is getting on your *** about how poorly you're playing (McRoberts was all over Dahntay at one point in the 3rd quarter), you've got some serious issues.

    Dunleavy is far better than Dahntay and I'd love to keep him around at a much cheaper rate, if we aren't able to trade his contract for something nice.
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    I would sign him for the MLE or a little bit more even. Unless George looks like he is truly ready to take over the starting spot next year. If you look at free agency, it is very thin. The best SG out there that is unrestricted is Crawford. Next up is J.R. Smith, and Battier. Crawford wants way too much and someone will pay him, we don't want J.R. Smith, and Battier is couple of years older than Mike and he has never been a great offensive player. He is a defensive specialist and we have enough of them.

    Dunleavy will start this year and depending on how our youth devolps, he could still start next year.

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    Him and Dahntay are totally different players. I'm glad Mike is healthy and all. At this time I wouldn't mind us signing him to about the vet minimum for about 2 years or so as I think that would be really low-risk. I'm glad that he has his shot back and his running-without-the-ball skills. The past couple of preseason games have been very good for him--he's been showing us more and more each game of him running without the ball and plays have been made leading to a Dunleavy bucket. I particularly like his backdoor reverse layups he has mastered over time. Last night he had a beautiful one. With him being on the court, it has lead to a lot more passing by our guys, a lot more ball movement, and a lot more spacing of the court. Dunleavy just lacks on defense.

    Dahntay just can't shoot the 3 whereas Mike Dunleavy really excels at being able to shoot the 3. Dahntay is more of a solid defensive player first, and a slashing player towards the basket second. Either he'll dunk it or he likes to get the contact anyway he can. I personally would like to keep Dahntay, but I know I'm definitely in the minority on that. I think most people here at PD would rather have Dunleavy at the vet minimum than having Dahntay here on this team.

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    Did you see Dahntay last night? He looked like he couldn't even hold down our 15th roster spot. When you're a veteran and a 3rd year guy who is just now cracking the rotation of a team is getting on your *** about how poorly you're playing (McRoberts was all over Dahntay at one point in the 3rd quarter), you've got some serious issues.

    Dunleavy is far better than Dahntay and I'd love to keep him around at a much cheaper rate, if we aren't able to trade his contract for something nice.
    I have to admit that Dahntay didn't increase his chances of staying with us last night. I've been preaching that he should stay with us, but last night was just pitiful.

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    If he comes in and averages 12 points and 2 assists while shooting well he will look like a beast. He's one of those players would flourish with a stacked offensive team, which it seems we could be this year. I bet we could trade him for Corey Maggette and a 1st or Illyasova when that doesn't work out for Milwaukee when John Salmons outplays him. Or the other way around. They have too many overpaid wings, and we could take advantage of that.

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    Is he honestly worth more than D.Jones? Do we give him that same type of contract or do we let him walk?
    IF Dun goes back to his old form I think his worth is around a Brent Barry IMO. I don't know why I thought of Brent Barry but I think his value is that he can stretch the floor and be effective with limited minutes. Ultimately though I think Dun gets more money than Jones.

    Maybe 4-5 million if teams aren't totally turned off by the CBA.
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    Dunleavy will start this year and depending on how our youth devolps, he could still start next year.
    This thought really makes me cringe.

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    I like Mike and find him to be a raally good shooter/scorer and some who can get to the free throw line.

    If he can do well this season and he wants to stay here, I'd like for us to negotiate a contract with him.

    I'm sure any team that would want him wouldn't offer him what he's getting now and we're probably gonna offer the same that any other team would.

    So if he does well again and he wants to stay here, then I think we should bring him back.

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    I could also see an opening for Avery Bradley, Damion James and Serge Ibaka because they don't have much of a chance to play this year. Thats my guess though, an uneducated guess.

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    I could also see an opening for Avery Bradley, Damion James and Serge Ibaka because they don't have much of a chance to play this year. Thats my guess though, an uneducated guess.
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    He is not worth much, his only value is as an expiring contract and right now the market is full of expiring contracts.
    I doubt he'll be on the market very long once he expires (if not traded first).

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    If he comes in and averages 12 points and 2 assists while shooting well he will look like a beast. He's one of those players would flourish with a stacked offensive team, which it seems we could be this year. I bet we could trade him for Corey Maggette and a 1st or Illyasova when that doesn't work out for Milwaukee when John Salmons outplays him. Or the other way around. They have too many overpaid wings, and we could take advantage of that.
    Why would we want to trade an expiring player, who can actually play, to take on an overpaid wing from someone else?

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    IF Dun goes back to his old form I think his worth is around a Brent Barry IMO. I don't know why I thought of Brent Barry but I think his value is that he can stretch the floor and be effective with limited minutes. Ultimately though I think Dun gets more money than Jones.

    Maybe 4-5 million if teams aren't totally turned off by the CBA.
    If he returns to form, he's quite a bit better than Barry IMHO.

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    Better acquire them separately. Otherwise Curry will eat the fries on the way over, and you won't get full trade value.

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    I am the biggest Dun fan on this board. But I will say this. There are a lot of people on here who overvalue Dun and there are a lot of people on here who undervalue him. My opinion is that when he gets hot he looks like world beater who cant miss shots and plays outstanding team defense. When he struggles he really struggles... can't hit shots and cant defend. The Pacers wont resign him and will use his expiring to trade for youth. Not sure what they will get for him though. Depends on how his year goes to be honest.
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    Why would we want to trade an expiring player, who can actually play, to take on an overpaid wing from someone else?
    Because they give you Darren Collison. Oh wait, we're talking about Mike..

    Then you'll get John or Corey who would be good 6th men, plus a 1st round pick or Larry Sanders as well. The reason the Bucks do this is because they don't want to be stuck with these guys forever and they are willing to give up a 1st and that is our consolation prize.

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    Because they give you Darren Collison. Oh wait, we're talking about Mike..

    Then you'll get John or Corey who would be good 6th men, plus a 1st round pick or Larry Sanders as well. The reason the Bucks do this is because they don't want to be stuck with these guys forever and they are willing to give up a 1st and that is our consolation prize.
    The Bucks JUST signed Salmons. It's not like they were stuck with him as part of a trade where they had to take on a bad contract or something. They willingly signed him. He hasn't even had a chance to wear out his welcome yet, so Milwaukee isn't going to be trying to move his salary yet.

    Maggette is basically getting paid like Granger, with 3 years and $30.78 million left on his contract.

    In summation, why the hell would we trade for Corey "Blackhole" Maggette?
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    The Bucks JUST signed Salmons. It's not like they were stuck with him as part of a trade where they had to take on a bad contract or something. They willingly signed him. He hasn't even had a chance to wear out his welcome yet, so Milwaukee isn't going to be trying to move his salary yet.

    Maggette is basically getting paid like Granger, with 3 years and $30.78 million left on his contract.

    In summation, why the hell would we trade for Corey "Blackhole" Maggette?
    To get a 6th man/starter and Larry Sanders or 1st round pick.

    And I'm not saying they're stuck with them. But they have those two guys at the same position and they are going to find out its going to be a problem when they are essentially have the same talent level.

    Here, you guys aren't really understanding what I mostly want: Larry Sanders and/or a pick.

    They aren't going to give us those straight up for Mike because 1. salaries don't match, and 2. it doesn't make sense.

    If we take one of those salaries off of their hands, we are suddenly able to pick up Larry or a 1st round pick. That is called a consolation prize.

    That is what I want if all else fails and we can't get Kevin Martin, Iggy, etc. (Which we won't) I don't just want it to expire because we all know that we will just end up overpaying for a decent PF like our fellow Bucks just did with Drew Gooden.

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