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    Nothing of real value here, but I'll take any positive Pacers rookie news. I didn't see an author, but it's from Slamonline.

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    Rookies Weigh In On Other Rookies




    September 19, 2010 11:15 am

    We witnessed this survey first hand. NBA.com got up with all the rookies:

    “At the annual Rookie Photo Shoot in August, NBA.com surveyed 40 rookies about the best in their group. Wizards point guard John Wall, the top pick in the Draft, is clearly at the top of the class, but he’s not the only Kentucky guy, nor the only one with a chance to win Rookie of the Year. Note that players were not allowed to vote for themselves, their NBA teammates or their college teammates. So, six of the 40 rookies were unable to vote for Wall (and they can blame the University of Florida class of 2007 for the rule), and the Clippers’ Eric Bledsoe wasn’t able to vote for any of the top three guys on the first question …


    Who will be the 2010-11 Rookie of the Year?

    1. John Wall, Washington — 38.5 percent
    2. Blake Griffin, L.A. Clippers — 23.1 percent
    3. DeMarcus Cousins, Sacramento — 12.8 percent
    4. Wesley Johnson, Minnesota — 7.7 percent

    Others receiving votes: Eric Bledsoe (LAC), Jordan Crawford (ATL), Derrick Favors (NJN), Gordon Hayward (UTA), Jeremy Lin (GSW), Larry Sanders (MIL), Evan Turner (PHI)

    Not only was Wall the No. 1 pick, but he’ll also have the ball in his hands more than any other rookie. Griffin, the No. 1 pick in the 2009 Draft, has recovered from the knee injury that caused him to miss last season. (Because he missed all of last year, he’s eligible for Rookie of the Year honors this season.) He can make an impact in L.A., but he’ll be part of a balanced lineup. Cousins may have a better shot at challenging his Kentucky teammate.


    Which rookie will have the best career?

    1. John Wall, Washington — 23.7 percent
    2. DeMarcus Cousins, Sacramento — 13.2 percent
    3. Blake Griffin, L.A. Clippers — 13.2 percent
    4. Derrick Favors, New Jersey — 10.5 percent
    5. Evan Turner, Philadelphia — 7.9 percent
    6. Wesley Johnson, Minnesota — 5.3 percent
    Greg Monroe, Detroit — 5.3 percent
    Larry Sanders, Milwaukee — 5.3 percent

    Others receiving votes: Craig Brackins (NOH), Avery Bradley (BOS), Paul George (IND), Luke Harangody (BOS), Gordon Hayward (UTA), Damion James (NJN)

    Griffin was the top vote-getter (20.6 percent) for this question last year.







    Which rookie is the most athletic?

    1. Terrico White, Detroit — 33.3 percent
    2. Paul George, Indiana — 16.7 percent
    3. John Wall, Washington — 11.1 percent
    4. Wesley Johnson, Minnesota — 8.3 percent
    5. Avery Bradley, Boston — 5.6 percent
    Blake Griffin, L.A. Clippers — 5.6 percent
    Eliot Williams, Portland — 5.6 percent

    Others receiving votes: Al-Farouq Aminu (LAC), Trevor Booker (WAS), Devin Ebanks (LAL), Quincy Pondexter (NOH), Stanley Robinson (ORL)

    The responses here were pretty balanced, evidence that this is an athletic class. But White distinguished himself in an impromptu dunk contest after everyone had filled out the survey.


    Which rookie is the best shooter?

    1. Luke Babbitt, Portland — 32.4 percent
    2. Jordan Crawford, Atlanta — 10.8 percent
    Gordon Hayward, Utah — 10.8 percent
    4. James Anderson, San Antonio — 8.1 percent
    Andy Rautins, New York — 8.1 percent
    6. Lazar Hayward, Minnesota — 5.4 percent
    Xavier Henry, Memphis — 5.4 percent

    Others receiving votes: Craig Brackins (NOH), Avery Bradley (BOS), Da’Sean Butler (MIA), Paul George (IND), Wesley Johnson (MIN), Lance Stephenson (IND), Evan Turner (PHI)

    More balance here. This class can evidently shoot pretty well, too.

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    Also this from another article about this.

    http://www.nesn.com/2010/09/nba-rook...aft-class.html
    NBA Rookies Say New Celtic Avery Bradley Best Defender in 2010 Draft Class

    by Evans Clinchy on Sep 19, 2010 11:49:37 PM

    When Avery Bradley takes the court next month for the first game of his NBA career, he'll be facing lofty expectations from his fans, coaches and teammates in Boston.

    The loftiest of all, though, will probably come from his peers in the Class of 2010.

    The 19-year-old Bradley, who was selected 19th overall by the Celtics in this summer's draft, has already earned the respect of his fellow rookies before even taking an NBA floor. According to a poll of 40 rookies from around the league, Bradley is the league's best rookie defender.

    The results of the league's rookie survey, released in an article published this weekend by John Schuhmann of NBA.com, show Bradley with a resounding lead over the rest of the pack. The C's youngster was tabbed as the class's best defensive player by 41.7 percent of rookies polled; the Kings' Hassan Whiteside was second at 8.3 percent, followed by the Timberwolves' Lazar Hayward and the Warriors' Ekpe Udoh each at 5.6.

    Considering the circumstances, it's a landslide of Reagan-Mondale proportions. The Wizards' John Wall won a competitive vote for Rookie of the Year, the Pacers' Lance Stephenson emerged from a tight pack to win "most overlooked," and the Pistons' Terrico White faced a few fierce competitors in his way to win "most athletic."

    But in the race for best defender, it was all Bradley -- as it should be. Defense has been a calling card for the former Texas Longhorn since day one.

    It was defense that enabled Bradley to lead his Nevada high school, Findlay College Prep, to a national championship in the spring of 2009.

    It was defense that landed Bradley the No. 1 spot in ESPNU's list of the top prospects in his high school class.

    And it was defense that put Bradley on the map in college, although he was often overlooked by flashier guards -- like Wall, Evan Turner and Xavier Henry -- who put up bigger numbers. So maybe it was defense that enabled him to slip all the way to Boston at No. 19 on draft night.

    But Boston is the perfect landing spot for Bradley, who's an NBA-ready defender and a player with maturity beyond his years at 19. Bradley wanted a place where he could make an impact right away, and the Celtics wanted a guy who could leave his mark from the very beginning as a capable role player on a title contender. Both sides got exactly what they wanted.

    No one in Boston has seen the kid in action yet. Bradley underwent arthroscopic surgery on his left ankle on July 2, causing him to miss all of the Celtics' summer league action while he recuperates and prepares for the regular season. But Bradley is healthy now, and when the C's take the court next month, we'll all get to see what he can do.

    He's going to be a lock-down defender right away, a guy that can come off the bench and keep even the league's best guards honest. It'll put Doc Rivers' mind at ease, having an able-bodied youngster than can spell Rajon Rondo, keeping the star guard's legs fresh while not losing a step on the defensive end.
    Bradley is a lot of things. The league's rookies polled also tabbed the new Celtic among the most athletic, the best playmakers and the best shooters in his incoming class. But in Boston, defense will be his trademark.

    The Celtics were already a championship-caliber team before Avery Bradley arrived. But with Bradley on board, they're one more baby step closer to bringing a banner back to Boston. Defense can still win championships, and Bradley can sure play defense. The whole league knows it.

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    wait....

    Here is the more detailed article, sorry for the duplication.

    http://www.nesn.com/2010/09/nba-rook...aft-class.html

    No. 1 pick Wall earns respect from other rookies in survey

    John Schuhmann

    Posted Sep 18 2010 11:22AM

    With training camps set to open in a week, there's a new class of rookies ready to carry bags, buy donuts and make their mark on the NBA. You'll get to know this rookie class pretty well over the next seven months, but as a pre-camp preview, we're going to let the class tell you a little about itself.

    At the annual Rookie Photo Shoot in August, NBA.com surveyed 40 rookies about the best in their group. Wizards point guard John Wall, the top pick in the Draft, is clearly at the top of the class, but he's not the only Kentucky guy, nor the only one with a chance to win Rookie of the Year.

    Note that players were not allowed to vote for themselves, their NBA teammates or their college teammates. So, six of the 40 rookies were unable to vote for Wall (and they can blame the University of Florida class of 2007 for the rule), and the Clippers' Eric Bledsoe wasn't able to vote for any of the top three guys on the first question ...


    Who will be the 2010-11 Rookie of the Year?

    1. John Wall, Washington -- 38.5 percent
    2. Blake Griffin, L.A. Clippers -- 23.1 percent
    3. DeMarcus Cousins, Sacramento -- 12.8 percent
    4. Wesley Johnson, Minnesota -- 7.7 percent

    Others receiving votes: Eric Bledsoe (LAC), Jordan Crawford (ATL), Derrick Favors (NJN), Gordon Hayward (UTA), Jeremy Lin (GSW), Larry Sanders (MIL), Evan Turner (PHI)

    Not only was Wall the No. 1 pick, but he'll also have the ball in his hands more than any other rookie. Griffin, the No. 1 pick in the 2009 Draft, has recovered from the knee injury that caused him to miss last season. (Because he missed all of last year, he's eligible for Rookie of the Year honors this season.) He can make an impact in L.A., but he'll be part of a balanced lineup. Cousins may have a better shot at challenging his Kentucky teammate.


    Which rookie will have the best career?

    1. John Wall, Washington -- 23.7 percent
    2. DeMarcus Cousins, Sacramento -- 13.2 percent
    3. Blake Griffin, L.A. Clippers -- 13.2 percent
    4. Derrick Favors, New Jersey -- 10.5 percent
    5. Evan Turner, Philadelphia -- 7.9 percent
    6. Wesley Johnson, Minnesota -- 5.3 percent
    Greg Monroe, Detroit -- 5.3 percent
    Larry Sanders, Milwaukee -- 5.3 percent

    Others receiving votes: Craig Brackins (NOH), Avery Bradley (BOS), Paul George (IND), Luke Harangody (BOS), Gordon Hayward (UTA), Damion James (NJN)

    Griffin was the top vote-getter (20.6 percent) for this question last year.


    Which rookie is being most overlooked?

    1. Lance Stephenson, Indiana -- 17.9 percent
    2. Luke Babbitt, Portland -- 10.3 percent
    3. Devin Ebanks, L.A. Lakers -- 7.7 percent
    4. Jeremy Lin, Golden State -- 6.4 percent
    5. Craig Brackins, New Orleans -- 5.1 percent
    Paul George, Indiana -- 5.1 percent
    7. Jordan Crawford, Atlanta -- 3.8 percent

    Others receiving votes: Cole Aldrich (OKC), Al-Farouq Aminu (LAC), Eric Bledsoe (LAC), Trevor Booker (WAS), Avery Bradley (BOS), Landry Fields (NYK), Tiny Gallon (MIL), Luke Harangody (BOS), Xavier Henry (MEM), Damion James (NJN), Dominique Jones (DAL), Gani Lawal (PHX), Larry Sanders (MIL), Evan Turner (PHI), Greivis Vazquez (MEM), Willie Warren (LAC), Eliot Williams (POR)

    This question obviously generated the biggest variety of responses. Of the players who received more than one vote, George was selected highest, at No. 10 by the Pacers.


    Which rookie is the most athletic?

    1. Terrico White, Detroit -- 33.3 percent
    2. Paul George, Indiana -- 16.7 percent
    3. John Wall, Washington -- 11.1 percent
    4. Wesley Johnson, Minnesota -- 8.3 percent
    5. Avery Bradley, Boston -- 5.6 percent
    Blake Griffin, L.A. Clippers -- 5.6 percent
    Eliot Williams, Portland -- 5.6 percent

    Others receiving votes: Al-Farouq Aminu (LAC), Trevor Booker (WAS), Devin Ebanks (LAL), Quincy Pondexter (NOH), Stanley Robinson (ORL)

    The responses here were pretty balanced, evidence that this is an athletic class. But White distinguished himself in an impromptu dunk contest after everyone had filled out the survey.


    Which rookie is the best shooter?

    1. Luke Babbitt, Portland -- 32.4 percent
    2. Jordan Crawford, Atlanta -- 10.8 percent
    Gordon Hayward, Utah -- 10.8 percent
    4. James Anderson, San Antonio -- 8.1 percent
    Andy Rautins, New York -- 8.1 percent
    6. Lazar Hayward, Minnesota -- 5.4 percent
    Xavier Henry, Memphis -- 5.4 percent

    Others receiving votes: Craig Brackins (NOH), Avery Bradley (BOS), Da'Sean Butler (MIA), Paul George (IND), Wesley Johnson (MIN), Lance Stephenson (IND), Evan Turner (PHI)
    More balance here. This class can evidently shoot pretty well, too.


    Which rookie is the best defender?

    1. Avery Bradley, Boston -- 41.7 percent
    2. Hassan Whiteside, Sacramento -- 8.3 percent
    3. Lazar Hayward, Minnesota -- 5.6 percent
    Ekpe Udoh, Golden State -- 5.6 percent

    Others receiving votes: Cole Aldrich (OKC), James Anderson (SAS), Eric Bledsoe (LAC), Trevor Booker (WAS), Jordan Crawford (ATL), Ed Davis (TOR), Devin Ebanks (LAL), Derrick Favors (NJN), Xavier Henry (MEM), Damion James (NJN), Gani Lawal (PHX), Quincy Pondexter (NOH), Lance Stephenson (IND), Terrico White (DET)

    It seems right that Celtics are getting the player considered the best defender in the class. Relative to top guys for most of the other categories, Bradley dominated this question.


    Which rookie is the best playmaker?

    1. John Wall, Washington -- 67.6 percent
    2. Eric Bledsoe, L.A. Clippers -- 5.4 percent
    Jordan Crawford, Atlanta -- 5.4 percent
    Evan Turner, Philadelphia -- 5.4 percent

    Others receiving votes: James Anderson (SAS), Avery Bradley (BOS), Paul George (IND), Greg Monroe (DET), Ishmael Smith (HOU), Lance Stephenson (IND)

    This was the most lopsided response. And if Trevor Booker, Wall or any of Wall's Kentucky teammates could have voted for him, it would have been even more lopsided.


    Which rookie is the funniest?

    1. DeMarcus Cousins, Sacramento -- 44.7 percent
    2. Tiny Gallon, Milwaukee -- 32.9 percent
    3. Cole Aldrich, Oklahoma City -- 5.3 percent

    Others receiving votes: Luke Babbitt (POR), Da'Sean Butler (MIA), Damion James (NJN), Patrick Patterson (HOU), Larry Sanders (MIL), Hassan Whiteside (SAC), Lance Stephenson (IND)

    A two-man race. And the winner was the one guy that many members of the media just don't get.


    What will be the biggest adjustment for you playing in the NBA?

    1. Length of schedule -- 26.9 percent
    2. Speed or style of play -- 24.4 percent
    3. Lifestyle and time management -- 12.8 percent
    Size and strength of opponents -- 12.8 percent
    5. Amount of travel -- 5.1 percent
    Decrease in role or playing time -- 5.1 percent
    Preparation and conditioning -- 5.1 percent

    Also receiving votes: Defense, Longer 3-point shot, Playing a new position

    These guys are going from a 35-game schedule to an 82-game schedule. Yeah, that's a big adjustment.


    Who is your favorite player in the league?

    1. Kobe Bryant, L.A. Lakers -- 38.2 percent
    2. LeBron James, Miami -- 10.5 percent
    3. Carmelo Anthony, Denver -- 7.9 percent
    4. Kevin Garnett, Boston -- 5.3 percent
    Dwyane Wade, Miami -- 5.3 percent

    Others receiving votes: Renaldo Balkman (DEN), Kevin Durant (OKC), Monta Ellis (GSW), Pau Gasol (LAL), Dwight Howard (ORL), Joe Johnson (ATL), Steve Nash (PHX), Shaquille O'Neal (BOS), Chris Paul (NOH), Paul Pierce (BOS), Rajon Rondo (BOS), Brandon Roy (POR), Ramon Sessions (CLE), Amar'e Stoudemire (NYK)

    Back-to-back titles mean more to the rookies than back-to-back MVPs.

    John Schuhmann is a staff writer for NBA.com. You can e-mail him here and follow him on twitter.

    The views on this page do not necessarily reflect the views of the NBA, its clubs or Turner Broadcasting.

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    You know, maybe it is just me but when you have so many players from the same team that highly regarded I have to wonder if any of them are as good as they are thought to be. Don't get me wrong I don't think any of them suck, just that because they were playing with other players with a lot of talent they were able to feed off each other to appear better than they really are. I'm sure Wall, Cousins, and all of the Kentucky players, especially Wall and Cousins, are good enough on their own to be drafted just maybe if they didn't have so much help they would have been drafted lower.

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    Good article. I think that the rookie peers probably have a better idea of each others abilities than some of the professional scouts and most of the journalists.

    Particularly of note:

    Lance Stephensen and Paul George received votes in 5 categories each.

    PG was 2nd in Most Athletic (Lance received no votes). He also received votes in the "Best Career" category while Lance received none.

    Lance was 1st in Most Overlooked. He also received votes in the Best Defender category while PG received none.
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    You know, maybe it is just me but when you have so many players from the same team that highly regarded I have to wonder if any of them are as good as they are thought to be. Don't get me wrong I don't think any of them suck, just that because they were playing with other players with a lot of talent they were able to feed off each other to appear better than they really are. I'm sure Wall, Cousins, and all of the Kentucky players, especially Wall and Cousins, are good enough on their own to be drafted just maybe if they didn't have so much help they would have been drafted lower.
    That could be the case. If that applies to anybody from that UK group it would be Patrick Patterson, IMO.

    OTOH, Eric Bledsoe is probably much better than he was able to show because of playing behind Wall. It can easily go both ways.
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    Good article. I think that the rookie peers probably have a better idea of each others abilities than some of the professional scouts and most of the journalists.

    Particularly of note:

    Lance Stephensen and Paul George received votes in 5 categories each.

    PG was 2nd in Most Athletic (Lance received no votes). He also received votes in the "Best Career" category while Lance received none.

    Lance was 1st in Most Overlooked. He also received votes in the Best Defender category while PG received none.
    Interesting, Lance got a vote for funniest and best playmaker too.

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    I think it's interesting to see how players rate their peers.

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    i wonder whose favorite player is renaldo balkman...does he have a little brother that got drafted or something?

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    i wonder whose favorite player is renaldo balkman...does he have a little brother that got drafted or something?
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    I love me some Terrico White.

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    I love me some Terrico White.
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