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    I think this talk better of him

    “Any athlete can preach to this, that when things aren’t going well, you tend to bring it home, and the people that take the brunt of it is the family,’’ O’Neal said. “Whether it’s you not wanting to be around anybody, whether it’s you not wanting to do anything, whether it’s you being sensitive, whether it’s you being frustrated.’’

    Eventually, the strain was too much.

    “When I noticed that it was starting to weigh on my family, I asked to leave Indiana,’’ O’Neal said. “I never expected to leave Indiana. That was the breaking point for me.’’

    He broke down crying in his car after his last game as a Pacer. His wife was in the passenger’s seat. He wanted to retire right then.

    “She knew it because I told her that I actually understood the effects of those dark days on my family,’’ O’Neal said. “It started really bothering her to see me physically the way I was and emotionally and mentally the way I was.

    “That was basically the reason why I felt like it was time to go. It was a very difficult decision.’’
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    Poor guy.

    $20 million a year and can't stand the pressue...

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    Poor guy.

    $20 million a year and can't stand the pressue...
    Come on man. Is that $20 million supposed to make him not care about his family or for basketball? We should be so lucky to have a league full of players who don't let all the money jade them.

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    Poor guy.

    $20 million a year and can't stand the pressue...
    I personally know people who are considerably more wealthy than O'Neal who go through plenty of misery similar to what Jermaine is describing, and much of it is often related to family and relationships. Money does not provide you from immunity from such things.

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    JO was always an interesting character.

    Do I think he cared? Absolutely. He wanted the Pacers to succeed.

    However, I think he always thought the best way to succeed was through him. In a way, he was selfish because of this, but at the same time I think his intentions were for the team to win, he was just misguided. If that makes sense.

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    His wife must not have thrown him the ball.
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    JO used to be my favorite player, until I got to know him better. Sorry he had issues, but for 20M/year, you just have to grin and bear it. It's not that long nor that important in the scheme of life. Dude probably still needs to grow up.

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    JO used to be my favorite player, until I got to know him better. Sorry he had issues, but for 20M/year, you just have to grin and bear it. It's not that long nor that important in the scheme of life. Dude probably still needs to grow up.
    Please! Enough of this talk. Ever think that maybe he felt he wasn't earning his money? You would prefer he just takes his paycheck and grins through losing because he's making so much money? Come on now. That's not the type of player any of us want.

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    It's not that long nor that important in the scheme of life. Dude probably still needs to grow up.
    He needs to grow up because he put his family ahead of his commitment to his employer? If only we could all be so immature. I suppose it's more mature to just say kiss my *** to the wife, and kids and just get a divorce?

    I'm not following this logic at all.

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    I once heard it said that the only difference between a rich man and a poor man is that the poor man thinks all his problems would be solved if he just had more money. A rich man knows better.
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    If not for Artest, Reggie and JO probably have a ring. Remember the Lakers "infighting" and Detroit goes on to win. Nobody on here says anything about JO and heart if that happens. All of a sudden JO is worth his money. Apology or not, Artest will always remain my least favorite very talented player.
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    Jermaine does break down fairly often, in more ways than one, it seems
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    If not for Artest, Reggie and JO probably have a ring. Remember the Lakers "infighting" and Detroit goes on to win. Nobody on here says anything about JO and heart if that happens. All of a sudden JO is worth his money. Apology or not, Artest will always remain my least favorite very talented player.

    Without Artest, JO wasn't going to sniff a ring with the Pacers whether Reggie was here or not. JO wanted to be Batman... instead he was the guy wearing hockey pads (Batman The Dark Knight reference there).
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    I'm just ready to move on.

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    I think that sums up the fact that JO was forced into a leadership role with the Pacers that he never was actually suited for emotionally, and when the team failed to perform he took it personally while at the same time wanting to be anywhere else besides Indiana because deep down he knew he could never be what was being asked of him here, especially without any other players to carry any part of the load from a skill or leadership standpoint.

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    I broke down and cried after watching a few of JO's games before his last.

    If the pressure was too much he could have asked the franchise have the contract voided for family medical reasons like Derek Fisher did.

    The team probably would have been happy to wipe that contract off the cap and they could have helped out poor JO and his family at the same time.

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    I think that sums up the fact that JO was forced into a leadership role with the Pacers that he never was actually suited for emotionally, and when the team failed to perform he took it personally while at the same time wanting to be anywhere else besides Indiana because deep down he knew he could never be what was being asked of him here, especially without any other players to carry any part of the load from a skill or leadership standpoint.
    This.

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    I'm sorry, but some of the comments in this thread are pretty *****ing callous. I will NEVER understand why some people are expected to be "less human" and "more character", because they make millions of dollars. More money =/= Better Christian.

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    It's fairly nonsensical to ask us to care what JO's state of mind was. We're basketball fans cheering for a basketball team. Why should any of us care JO was cracking under the pressure any farther than it hurt our team?

    Besides, even if we did care, people deal with harsh pressure everyday under circumstances that make JO's look like a satirical mockery of something that actually matters. Guy plays a game for a living. This isn't life or death. This isn't cold or warm, starving or fed, it's a game. Cry me a river about the mental pressure of a game.

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    I loved watching JO in his prime! He played hard on both ends and with emotion and passion! He was generous with his time and money while here. He had an injury that limited his explosiveness and he was never the same but that does not change the great things he did on and off the court. I wish more people would remember the many monster dunks we saw form JO. He was exciting to watch and I wish we had more JO style dunks on this team and less long jumpers. Maybe more people would want to watch if we did.

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    I think that sums up the fact that JO was forced into a leadership role with the Pacers that he never was actually suited for emotionally, and when the team failed to perform he took it personally while at the same time wanting to be anywhere else besides Indiana because deep down he knew he could never be what was being asked of him here, especially without any other players to carry any part of the load from a skill or leadership standpoint.
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    At the time, I never bought into J.O. as the "leader" of the Pacers. He was definitely the franchise player, but I still thought of it as Reggie's Team even though his role and production took a huge step back in those last few years.

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    boo hoo.

    i still don't like him.

    i like jax better than jo, if that says anything.
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    $20 million.

    That's a lot of money.

    Criticism comes with the job of playing ball.

    If your family doesn't like having to deal with the criticism, move them to Florida.

    If you can't stand the pressure or criticism, get some counseling to figure out how to deal with it or talk to other players. There's support systems available for $20 million.

    Never liked the turn around fade-away shot of his... too low percentage... and I didn't like the fact that he was always talking and explaining away stuff in interviews. Too much talk and not enough winning.

    His teams had talent.... they just didn't work well together. Is team chemistry his fault? Not solely, but there is some blame to go around for everyone.

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    Please! Enough of this talk. Ever think that maybe he felt he wasn't earning his money? You would prefer he just takes his paycheck and grins through losing because he's making so much money? Come on now. That's not the type of player any of us want.
    I agree that he probably wasn't happy with his play but I think what overall had him down was that the team wasn't winning and the fans were throwing him under the bus.

    He played through major injuries, injuries requiring surgery, because he was making the big bucks and he knew the team needed him. All that money did was put a huge bullseye on his back for the fans and media to shoot at when the Pacers were struggling. His feelings were hurt more than anything else and both he and Larry Bird made the decision to split.

    Luckily we got Roy Hibbert out of the deal and JO got to move on to a situation with less pressure.
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    Larry is not coming back, he didn't have a meeting with Orlando for not reason, yeah he is coming back to the NBA but not to the Pacers, the notion that he is a taking a year off and then come back is absurd.
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    Poor guy.

    $20 million a year and can't stand the pressue...
    We may need a "no thanks" button.

    You're entitled to your opinion, so I'm not saying you should not post it.

    Its his career, and maybe the money wasn't the most important thing to him. Even though he had plenty of it.
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