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The Rules of Pacers Digest
Hello everyone,
Whether your are a long standing forum member or whether you have just registered today, it's a good idea to read and review the rules below so that you have a very good idea of what to expect when you come to Pacers Digest.
A quick note to new members: Your posts will not immediately show up when you make them. An administrator has to approve at least your first post before the forum software will later upgrade your account to the status of a fully-registered member. This usually happens within a couple of hours or so after your post(s) is/are approved, so you may need to be a little patient at first.
Why do we do this? So that it's more difficult for spammers (be they human or robot) to post, and so users who are banned cannot immediately re-register and start dousing people with verbal flames.
Below are the rules of Pacers Digest. After you have read them, you will have a very good sense of where we are coming from, what we expect, what we don't want to see, and how we react to things.
Rule #1
Pacers Digest is intended to be a place to discuss basketball without having to deal with the kinds of behaviors or attitudes that distract people from sticking with the discussion of the topics at hand. These unwanted distractions can come in many forms, and admittedly it can sometimes be tricky to pin down each and every kind that can rear its ugly head, but we feel that the following examples and explanations cover at least a good portion of that ground and should at least give people a pretty good idea of the kinds of things we actively discourage:
"Anyone who __________ is a liar / a fool / an idiot / a blind homer / has their head buried in the sand / a blind hater / doesn't know basketball / doesn't watch the games"
"People with intelligence will agree with me when I say that __________"
"Only stupid people think / believe / do ___________"
"I can't wait to hear something from PosterX when he/she sees that **insert a given incident or current event that will have probably upset or disappointed PosterX here**"
"He/she is just delusional"
"This thread is stupid / worthless / embarrassing"
"I'm going to take a moment to point and
/ laugh at PosterX / GroupOfPeopleY who thought / believed *insert though/belief here*"
"Remember when PosterX said OldCommentY that no longer looks good?"
In general, if a comment goes from purely on topic to something 'ad hominem' (personal jabs, personal shots, attacks, flames, however you want to call it, towards a person, or a group of people, or a given city/state/country of people), those are most likely going to be found intolerable.
We also dissuade passive aggressive behavior. This can be various things, but common examples include statements that are basically meant to imply someone is either stupid or otherwise incapable of holding a rational conversation. This can include (but is not limited to) laughing at someone's conclusions rather than offering an honest rebuttal, asking people what game they were watching, or another common problem is Poster X will say "that player isn't that bad" and then Poster Y will say something akin to "LOL you think that player is good". We're not going to tolerate those kinds of comments out of respect for the community at large and for the sake of trying to just have an honest conversation.
Now, does the above cover absolutely every single kind of distraction that is unwanted? Probably not, but you should by now have a good idea of the general types of things we will be discouraging. The above examples are meant to give you a good feel for / idea of what we're looking for. If something new or different than the above happens to come along and results in the same problem (that being, any other attitude or behavior that ultimately distracts from actually just discussing the topic at hand, or that is otherwise disrespectful to other posters), we can and we will take action to curb this as well, so please don't take this to mean that if you managed to technically avoid saying something exactly like one of the above examples that you are then somehow off the hook.
That all having been said, our goal is to do so in a generally kind and respectful way, and that doesn't mean the moment we see something we don't like that somebody is going to be suspended or banned, either. It just means that at the very least we will probably say something about it, quite possibly snipping out the distracting parts of the post in question while leaving alone the parts that are actually just discussing the topics, and in the event of a repeating or excessive problem, then we will start issuing infractions to try to further discourage further repeat problems, and if it just never seems to improve, then finally suspensions or bans will come into play. We would prefer it never went that far, and most of the time for most of our posters, it won't ever have to.
A slip up every once and a while is pretty normal, but, again, when it becomes repetitive or excessive, something will be done. Something occasional is probably going to be let go (within reason), but when it starts to become habitual or otherwise a pattern, odds are very good that we will step in.
There's always a small minority that like to push people's buttons and/or test their own boundaries with regards to the administrators, and in the case of someone acting like that, please be aware that this is not a court of law, but a private website run by people who are simply trying to do the right thing as they see it. If we feel that you are a special case that needs to be dealt with in an exceptional way because your behavior isn't explicitly mirroring one of our above examples of what we generally discourage, we can and we will take atypical action to prevent this from continuing if you are not cooperative with us.
Also please be aware that you will not be given a pass simply by claiming that you were 'only joking,' because quite honestly, when someone really is just joking, for one thing most people tend to pick up on the joke, including the person or group that is the target of the joke, and for another thing, in the event where an honest joke gets taken seriously and it upsets or angers someone, the person who is truly 'only joking' will quite commonly go out of his / her way to apologize and will try to mend fences. People who are dishonest about their statements being 'jokes' do not do so, and in turn that becomes a clear sign of what is really going on. It's nothing new.
In any case, quite frankly, the overall quality and health of the entire forum's community is more important than any one troublesome user will ever be, regardless of exactly how a problem is exhibiting itself, and if it comes down to us having to make a choice between you versus the greater health and happiness of the entire community, the community of this forum will win every time.
Lastly, there are also some posters, who are generally great contributors and do not otherwise cause any problems, who sometimes feel it's their place to provoke or to otherwise 'mess with' that small minority of people described in the last paragraph, and while we possibly might understand why you might feel you WANT to do something like that, the truth is we can't actually tolerate that kind of behavior from you any more than we can tolerate the behavior from them. So if we feel that you are trying to provoke those other posters into doing or saying something that will get themselves into trouble, then we will start to view you as a problem as well, because of the same reason as before: The overall health of the forum comes first, and trying to stir the pot with someone like that doesn't help, it just makes it worse. Some will simply disagree with this philosophy, but if so, then so be it because ultimately we have to do what we think is best so long as it's up to us.
If you see a problem that we haven't addressed, the best and most appropriate course for a forum member to take here is to look over to the left of the post in question. See underneath that poster's name, avatar, and other info, down where there's a little triangle with an exclamation point (!) in it? Click that. That allows you to report the post to the admins so we can definitely notice it and give it a look to see what we feel we should do about it. Beyond that, obviously it's human nature sometimes to want to speak up to the poster in question who has bothered you, but we would ask that you try to refrain from doing so because quite often what happens is two or more posters all start going back and forth about the original offending post, and suddenly the entire thread is off topic or otherwise derailed. So while the urge to police it yourself is understandable, it's best to just report it to us and let us handle it. Thank you!
All of the above is going to be subject to a case by case basis, but generally and broadly speaking, this should give everyone a pretty good idea of how things will typically / most often be handled.
Rule #2
If the actions of an administrator inspire you to make a comment, criticism, or express a concern about it, there is a wrong place and a couple of right places to do so.
The wrong place is to do so in the original thread in which the administrator took action. For example, if a post gets an infraction, or a post gets deleted, or a comment within a larger post gets clipped out, in a thread discussing Paul George, the wrong thing to do is to distract from the discussion of Paul George by adding your off topic thoughts on what the administrator did.
The right places to do so are:
A) Start a thread about the specific incident you want to talk about on the Feedback board. This way you are able to express yourself in an area that doesn't throw another thread off topic, and this way others can add their two cents as well if they wish, and additionally if there's something that needs to be said by the administrators, that is where they will respond to it.
B) Send a private message to the administrators, and they can respond to you that way.
If this is done the wrong way, those comments will be deleted, and if it's a repeating problem then it may also receive an infraction as well.
Rule #3
If a poster is bothering you, and an administrator has not or will not deal with that poster to the extent that you would prefer, you have a powerful tool at your disposal, one that has recently been upgraded and is now better than ever: The ability to ignore a user.
When you ignore a user, you will unfortunately still see some hints of their existence (nothing we can do about that), however, it does the following key things:
A) Any post they make will be completely invisible as you scroll through a thread.
B) The new addition to this feature: If someone QUOTES a user you are ignoring, you do not have to read who it was, or what that poster said, unless you go out of your way to click on a link to find out who it is and what they said.
To utilize this feature, from any page on Pacers Digest, scroll to the top of the page, look to the top right where it says 'Settings' and click that. From the settings page, look to the left side of the page where it says 'My Settings', and look down from there until you see 'Edit Ignore List' and click that. From here, it will say 'Add a Member to Your List...' Beneath that, click in the text box to the right of 'User Name', type in or copy & paste the username of the poster you are ignoring, and once their name is in the box, look over to the far right and click the 'Okay' button. All done!
Rule #4
Regarding infractions, currently they carry a value of one point each, and that point will expire in 31 days. If at any point a poster is carrying three points at the same time, that poster will be suspended until the oldest of the three points expires.
Rule #5
When you share or paste content or articles from another website, you must include the URL/link back to where you found it, who wrote it, and what website it's from. Said content will be removed if this doesn't happen.
An example:
If I copy and paste an article from the Indianapolis Star website, I would post something like this:
http://www.linktothearticlegoeshere.com/article
Title of the Article
Author's Name
Indianapolis Star
Rule #6
We cannot tolerate illegal videos on Pacers Digest. This means do not share any links to them, do not mention any websites that host them or link to them, do not describe how to find them in any way, and do not ask about them. Posts doing anything of the sort will be removed, the offenders will be contacted privately, and if the problem becomes habitual, you will be suspended, and if it still persists, you will probably be banned.
The legal means of watching or listening to NBA games are NBA League Pass Broadband (for US, or for International; both cost money) and NBA Audio League Pass (which is free). Look for them on NBA.com.
Rule #7
Provocative statements in a signature, or as an avatar, or as the 'tagline' beneath a poster's username (where it says 'Member' or 'Administrator' by default, if it is not altered) are an unwanted distraction that will more than likely be removed on sight. There can be shades of gray to this, but in general this could be something political or religious that is likely going to provoke or upset people, or otherwise something that is mean-spirited at the expense of a poster, a group of people, or a population.
It may or may not go without saying, but this goes for threads and posts as well, particularly when it's not made on the off-topic board (Market Square).
We do make exceptions if we feel the content is both innocuous and unlikely to cause social problems on the forum (such as wishing someone a Merry Christmas or a Happy Easter), and we also also make exceptions if such topics come up with regards to a sports figure (such as the Lance Stephenson situation bringing up discussions of domestic abuse and the law, or when Jason Collins came out as gay and how that lead to some discussion about gay rights).
However, once the discussion seems to be more/mostly about the political issues instead of the sports figure or his specific situation, the thread is usually closed.
Rule #8
We prefer self-restraint and/or modesty when making jokes or off topic comments in a sports discussion thread. They can be fun, but sometimes they derail or distract from a topic, and we don't want to see that happen. If we feel it is a problem, we will either delete or move those posts from the thread.
Rule #9
Generally speaking, we try to be a "PG-13" rated board, and we don't want to see sexual content or similarly suggestive content. Vulgarity is a more muddled issue, though again we prefer things to lean more towards "PG-13" than "R". If we feel things have gone too far, we will step in.
Rule #10
We like small signatures, not big signatures. The bigger the signature, the more likely it is an annoying or distracting signature.
Rule #11
Do not advertise anything without talking about it with the administrators first. This includes advertising with your signature, with your avatar, through private messaging, and/or by making a thread or post.
Whether your are a long standing forum member or whether you have just registered today, it's a good idea to read and review the rules below so that you have a very good idea of what to expect when you come to Pacers Digest.
A quick note to new members: Your posts will not immediately show up when you make them. An administrator has to approve at least your first post before the forum software will later upgrade your account to the status of a fully-registered member. This usually happens within a couple of hours or so after your post(s) is/are approved, so you may need to be a little patient at first.
Why do we do this? So that it's more difficult for spammers (be they human or robot) to post, and so users who are banned cannot immediately re-register and start dousing people with verbal flames.
Below are the rules of Pacers Digest. After you have read them, you will have a very good sense of where we are coming from, what we expect, what we don't want to see, and how we react to things.
Rule #1
Pacers Digest is intended to be a place to discuss basketball without having to deal with the kinds of behaviors or attitudes that distract people from sticking with the discussion of the topics at hand. These unwanted distractions can come in many forms, and admittedly it can sometimes be tricky to pin down each and every kind that can rear its ugly head, but we feel that the following examples and explanations cover at least a good portion of that ground and should at least give people a pretty good idea of the kinds of things we actively discourage:
"Anyone who __________ is a liar / a fool / an idiot / a blind homer / has their head buried in the sand / a blind hater / doesn't know basketball / doesn't watch the games"
"People with intelligence will agree with me when I say that __________"
"Only stupid people think / believe / do ___________"
"I can't wait to hear something from PosterX when he/she sees that **insert a given incident or current event that will have probably upset or disappointed PosterX here**"
"He/she is just delusional"
"This thread is stupid / worthless / embarrassing"
"I'm going to take a moment to point and
/ laugh at PosterX / GroupOfPeopleY who thought / believed *insert though/belief here*""Remember when PosterX said OldCommentY that no longer looks good?
"In general, if a comment goes from purely on topic to something 'ad hominem' (personal jabs, personal shots, attacks, flames, however you want to call it, towards a person, or a group of people, or a given city/state/country of people), those are most likely going to be found intolerable.
We also dissuade passive aggressive behavior. This can be various things, but common examples include statements that are basically meant to imply someone is either stupid or otherwise incapable of holding a rational conversation. This can include (but is not limited to) laughing at someone's conclusions rather than offering an honest rebuttal, asking people what game they were watching, or another common problem is Poster X will say "that player isn't that bad" and then Poster Y will say something akin to "LOL you think that player is good". We're not going to tolerate those kinds of comments out of respect for the community at large and for the sake of trying to just have an honest conversation.
Now, does the above cover absolutely every single kind of distraction that is unwanted? Probably not, but you should by now have a good idea of the general types of things we will be discouraging. The above examples are meant to give you a good feel for / idea of what we're looking for. If something new or different than the above happens to come along and results in the same problem (that being, any other attitude or behavior that ultimately distracts from actually just discussing the topic at hand, or that is otherwise disrespectful to other posters), we can and we will take action to curb this as well, so please don't take this to mean that if you managed to technically avoid saying something exactly like one of the above examples that you are then somehow off the hook.
That all having been said, our goal is to do so in a generally kind and respectful way, and that doesn't mean the moment we see something we don't like that somebody is going to be suspended or banned, either. It just means that at the very least we will probably say something about it, quite possibly snipping out the distracting parts of the post in question while leaving alone the parts that are actually just discussing the topics, and in the event of a repeating or excessive problem, then we will start issuing infractions to try to further discourage further repeat problems, and if it just never seems to improve, then finally suspensions or bans will come into play. We would prefer it never went that far, and most of the time for most of our posters, it won't ever have to.
A slip up every once and a while is pretty normal, but, again, when it becomes repetitive or excessive, something will be done. Something occasional is probably going to be let go (within reason), but when it starts to become habitual or otherwise a pattern, odds are very good that we will step in.
There's always a small minority that like to push people's buttons and/or test their own boundaries with regards to the administrators, and in the case of someone acting like that, please be aware that this is not a court of law, but a private website run by people who are simply trying to do the right thing as they see it. If we feel that you are a special case that needs to be dealt with in an exceptional way because your behavior isn't explicitly mirroring one of our above examples of what we generally discourage, we can and we will take atypical action to prevent this from continuing if you are not cooperative with us.
Also please be aware that you will not be given a pass simply by claiming that you were 'only joking,' because quite honestly, when someone really is just joking, for one thing most people tend to pick up on the joke, including the person or group that is the target of the joke, and for another thing, in the event where an honest joke gets taken seriously and it upsets or angers someone, the person who is truly 'only joking' will quite commonly go out of his / her way to apologize and will try to mend fences. People who are dishonest about their statements being 'jokes' do not do so, and in turn that becomes a clear sign of what is really going on. It's nothing new.
In any case, quite frankly, the overall quality and health of the entire forum's community is more important than any one troublesome user will ever be, regardless of exactly how a problem is exhibiting itself, and if it comes down to us having to make a choice between you versus the greater health and happiness of the entire community, the community of this forum will win every time.
Lastly, there are also some posters, who are generally great contributors and do not otherwise cause any problems, who sometimes feel it's their place to provoke or to otherwise 'mess with' that small minority of people described in the last paragraph, and while we possibly might understand why you might feel you WANT to do something like that, the truth is we can't actually tolerate that kind of behavior from you any more than we can tolerate the behavior from them. So if we feel that you are trying to provoke those other posters into doing or saying something that will get themselves into trouble, then we will start to view you as a problem as well, because of the same reason as before: The overall health of the forum comes first, and trying to stir the pot with someone like that doesn't help, it just makes it worse. Some will simply disagree with this philosophy, but if so, then so be it because ultimately we have to do what we think is best so long as it's up to us.
If you see a problem that we haven't addressed, the best and most appropriate course for a forum member to take here is to look over to the left of the post in question. See underneath that poster's name, avatar, and other info, down where there's a little triangle with an exclamation point (!) in it? Click that. That allows you to report the post to the admins so we can definitely notice it and give it a look to see what we feel we should do about it. Beyond that, obviously it's human nature sometimes to want to speak up to the poster in question who has bothered you, but we would ask that you try to refrain from doing so because quite often what happens is two or more posters all start going back and forth about the original offending post, and suddenly the entire thread is off topic or otherwise derailed. So while the urge to police it yourself is understandable, it's best to just report it to us and let us handle it. Thank you!
All of the above is going to be subject to a case by case basis, but generally and broadly speaking, this should give everyone a pretty good idea of how things will typically / most often be handled.
Rule #2
If the actions of an administrator inspire you to make a comment, criticism, or express a concern about it, there is a wrong place and a couple of right places to do so.
The wrong place is to do so in the original thread in which the administrator took action. For example, if a post gets an infraction, or a post gets deleted, or a comment within a larger post gets clipped out, in a thread discussing Paul George, the wrong thing to do is to distract from the discussion of Paul George by adding your off topic thoughts on what the administrator did.
The right places to do so are:
A) Start a thread about the specific incident you want to talk about on the Feedback board. This way you are able to express yourself in an area that doesn't throw another thread off topic, and this way others can add their two cents as well if they wish, and additionally if there's something that needs to be said by the administrators, that is where they will respond to it.
B) Send a private message to the administrators, and they can respond to you that way.
If this is done the wrong way, those comments will be deleted, and if it's a repeating problem then it may also receive an infraction as well.
Rule #3
If a poster is bothering you, and an administrator has not or will not deal with that poster to the extent that you would prefer, you have a powerful tool at your disposal, one that has recently been upgraded and is now better than ever: The ability to ignore a user.
When you ignore a user, you will unfortunately still see some hints of their existence (nothing we can do about that), however, it does the following key things:
A) Any post they make will be completely invisible as you scroll through a thread.
B) The new addition to this feature: If someone QUOTES a user you are ignoring, you do not have to read who it was, or what that poster said, unless you go out of your way to click on a link to find out who it is and what they said.
To utilize this feature, from any page on Pacers Digest, scroll to the top of the page, look to the top right where it says 'Settings' and click that. From the settings page, look to the left side of the page where it says 'My Settings', and look down from there until you see 'Edit Ignore List' and click that. From here, it will say 'Add a Member to Your List...' Beneath that, click in the text box to the right of 'User Name', type in or copy & paste the username of the poster you are ignoring, and once their name is in the box, look over to the far right and click the 'Okay' button. All done!
Rule #4
Regarding infractions, currently they carry a value of one point each, and that point will expire in 31 days. If at any point a poster is carrying three points at the same time, that poster will be suspended until the oldest of the three points expires.
Rule #5
When you share or paste content or articles from another website, you must include the URL/link back to where you found it, who wrote it, and what website it's from. Said content will be removed if this doesn't happen.
An example:
If I copy and paste an article from the Indianapolis Star website, I would post something like this:
http://www.linktothearticlegoeshere.com/article
Title of the Article
Author's Name
Indianapolis Star
Rule #6
We cannot tolerate illegal videos on Pacers Digest. This means do not share any links to them, do not mention any websites that host them or link to them, do not describe how to find them in any way, and do not ask about them. Posts doing anything of the sort will be removed, the offenders will be contacted privately, and if the problem becomes habitual, you will be suspended, and if it still persists, you will probably be banned.
The legal means of watching or listening to NBA games are NBA League Pass Broadband (for US, or for International; both cost money) and NBA Audio League Pass (which is free). Look for them on NBA.com.
Rule #7
Provocative statements in a signature, or as an avatar, or as the 'tagline' beneath a poster's username (where it says 'Member' or 'Administrator' by default, if it is not altered) are an unwanted distraction that will more than likely be removed on sight. There can be shades of gray to this, but in general this could be something political or religious that is likely going to provoke or upset people, or otherwise something that is mean-spirited at the expense of a poster, a group of people, or a population.
It may or may not go without saying, but this goes for threads and posts as well, particularly when it's not made on the off-topic board (Market Square).
We do make exceptions if we feel the content is both innocuous and unlikely to cause social problems on the forum (such as wishing someone a Merry Christmas or a Happy Easter), and we also also make exceptions if such topics come up with regards to a sports figure (such as the Lance Stephenson situation bringing up discussions of domestic abuse and the law, or when Jason Collins came out as gay and how that lead to some discussion about gay rights).
However, once the discussion seems to be more/mostly about the political issues instead of the sports figure or his specific situation, the thread is usually closed.
Rule #8
We prefer self-restraint and/or modesty when making jokes or off topic comments in a sports discussion thread. They can be fun, but sometimes they derail or distract from a topic, and we don't want to see that happen. If we feel it is a problem, we will either delete or move those posts from the thread.
Rule #9
Generally speaking, we try to be a "PG-13" rated board, and we don't want to see sexual content or similarly suggestive content. Vulgarity is a more muddled issue, though again we prefer things to lean more towards "PG-13" than "R". If we feel things have gone too far, we will step in.
Rule #10
We like small signatures, not big signatures. The bigger the signature, the more likely it is an annoying or distracting signature.
Rule #11
Do not advertise anything without talking about it with the administrators first. This includes advertising with your signature, with your avatar, through private messaging, and/or by making a thread or post.
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Re: League update
I'll be sending out a group email within the next 24 w/ details n the draft, etc. We have a new owner who is taking over BCon's team. It's looking for sure that we'll be holding our draft, Sunday, Oct 10th around 10:00 a.m., Indy time, unless you guys are absolutely against it. I think this was one of the only dates with only one owner having a conflict. We'll probably set the date for turningi in the protected 9 player list on Oct 3rd.
I'll put specifics in the group email.
In the meantime, here's the draft order, factoring in all the trades.
ROUND ONE
1. Amsterdam Pigeons
2. Go!! Yamaha
3. Gnawbone Nightmares
4. Amsterdam Pigeons
5. Frostwolf’s team
6. Indiana Firestorm
7. Cedar City/Dr. Badd’s team
8. Harlem Funkadelics
9. Las Vegas Vengence
10. Bangcock Banshee
11. Canadian Feet Eaters
12. Soup is Good’s team
13. Oakland Oaks
14. Go!! Yamaha
15. Roaming Gnomes
16. Bulldog’s team
17. Frostwolf’s team
18. Bellisimo's team
19. Soup is Good’s team
20. Diamond Dave’s team
ROUND TWO
1. Amsterdam Pigeons
2. Gnawbone Nightmares
3. Gnawbone Nightmares
4. Cedar City
5. Nash City Razorbacks
6. Indiana Firestorm
7. Rise of Dynamite
8. Harlem Funkadelics
9. Gotham Knights
10. Bangcock Banshee
11. Canadian Feet Eaters
12. Go!! Yamaha
13. Oakland Oaks
14. Cedar City Raven Redux
15. Roaming Gnomes
16. Diamond Dave's team
17. Pig Nash’s team
18. Bellisimo's team
19. Bulldog’s team
20. Redbull’s team
ROUND THREE
1. Amsterdam Pigeons
2. Cedar City Raven Redux
3. Gnawbone Nightmares
4. Gotham Knights
5. Nash City Razorbacks
6. Indiana Firestorm
7. Rise of Dynamite
8. Harlem Funkadelics
9. Las Vegas Vengence
10. Bangcock Banshee
11. Canadian Feet Eaters
12. Venice Vagabonds
13. Oakland Oaks
14. Venice Vagabonds
15. Roaming Gnomes
16. Bulldog’s team
17. Soup is Good’s team
18. Bellisimo's team
19. Frostwolf’s team
20. Diamond Dave’s team
Lemme know if I got anything wrong.Last edited by Skaut_Ech; 09-27-2010, 05:54 PM.Hey! What're you kicking me for? You want me to ask? All right, I'll ask! Ma'am, where do the high school girls hang out in this town?Comment
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Re: League update
Okay, someone correct me if I'm wrong. Have we not heard anything from kerosene/Oakland Oaks? He hasn't been on PD for over a year and I don't think I've heard from him myself at all during all this. Is that right?
If that's the case, I may have to give his team to a new owner. I have someone lined up, but I wanted to make sure I wasn't mistaken. He's the only one who hasn't signed onto sports.ws and I don't think anyone has heard from him, have they?Hey! What're you kicking me for? You want me to ask? All right, I'll ask! Ma'am, where do the high school girls hang out in this town?Comment
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Re: League update
kerosene just got back with me! Excellent. We are now up to full strength. In will send out the league email today with all the info for the draft, etc.Hey! What're you kicking me for? You want me to ask? All right, I'll ask! Ma'am, where do the high school girls hang out in this town?Comment
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Re: League update
Well, draft time is upon us!!
First, let's welcome Canuckleheads (Tom) and his Little Fort Bottom Feeders to the league. He'll be taking over Boston Connection's team. Tom has Sports.ws experience is a really enthusiastic about joining a keeper league. I think he'll find it a fun and interesting experience building a team over the years.
This is our eighth year of existence and I think this the biggest owners turnover we've ever had. Here's to a new era and hopefully another group of owners spending years building rivalries.
Now to the housekeeping!
Trading
Trading is still open until Sunday, 11:59 p.m., EST.
Protected Lists (Your top nine players you want to protect. the others will be released into the draft pool)
Not coincidentally, protected lists are due at that same time. I have some of your lists already and thanks for getting them in early.That way we can get the pre-draft rosters set and I have time to enter the teams into the system and set up the league before the draft.
The Draft
Everyone is pretty flexible with their dates, but it seems the one that will work the best is Sunday, October 10. Let's say 10:00 a.m., EST. It usually goes pretty quick. I'd say about 4 hours max.
If you can't make the draft or have to leave, email me a contingency list so I can draft for you.
Main Draft Order for 2010-11 ABA KL (All trading from last year and this year has been taken into account)
ROUND ONE
1. Amsterdam Pigeons
2. Go!! Yamaha
3. Gnawbone Nightmares
4. Amsterdam Pigeons
5. Frostwolf’s team
6. Indiana Firestorm
7. Cedar City/Dr. Badd’s team
8. Harlem Funkadelics
9. Las Vegas Vengence
10. Bangcock Banshee
11. Canadian Feet Eaters
12. Soup is Good’s team
13. Oakland Oaks
14. Go!! Yamaha
15. Roaming Gnomes
16. Bulldog’s team
17. Frostwolf’s team
18. Bellisimo's team
19. Soup is Good’s team
20. Diamond Dave’s team
ROUND TWO
1. Amsterdam Pigeons
2. Gnawbone Nightmares
3. Gnawbone Nightmares
4. Cedar City
5. Nash City Razorbacks
6. Indiana Firestorm
7. Rise of Dynamite
8. Harlem Funkadelics
9. Little Fort Bottom Feeders
10. Bangcock Banshee
11. Canadian Feet Eaters
12. Go!! Yamaha
13. Oakland Oaks
14. Cedar City Raven Redux
15. Roaming Gnomes
16. Diamond Dave's team
17. Pig Nash’s team
18. Bellisimo's team
19. Bulldog’s team
20. Redbull’s team
ROUND THREE
1. Amsterdam Pigeons
2. Cedar City Raven Redux
3. Gnawbone Nightmares
4. Little Fort Bottom Feeders
5. Nash City Razorbacks
6. Indiana Firestorm
7. Rise of Dynamite
8. Harlem Funkadelics
9. Las Vegas Vengence
10. Bangcock Banshee
11. Canadian Feet Eaters
12. Venice Vagabonds
13. Oakland Oaks
14. Venice Vagabonds
15. Roaming Gnomes
16. Bulldog’s team
17. Soup is Good’s team
18. Bellisimo's team
19. Frostwolf’s team
20. Diamond Dave’s team
And here's the teams as they stand right now:
Diamond Dave-Castle de Verde Hoopsters
CF Elton Brand (PHI)
CF Jermaine Oneal (MIA)
CF Mehmet Okur (UTA)
F Jeff Green (OKL)
F Thaddeus Young (PHI)
G Aaron Brooks (HOU)
F Shawn Marion(DAL)
G O.J. Mayo (MEM)
G Shaun Livingston (WAS)
GF Kevin Durant (OKL)
GF Ron Artest (LAL)
CF Juwan Howard (POR)
Bulldog-South Beach Talents
G Rajon Rondo (BOS)
C Yao Ming (HOU)
CF Darko Milicic (MIN)
F Brandan Wright (GSW)
F Brandon Bass (ORL)
F Danilo Gallinari (NYK)
F J.J. Hickson (CLE)
F Taj Gibson (CHI)
F Udonis Haslem (MIA)
G Rodrigue Beaubois (DAL)
CF Hilton Armstrong (HOU)
G Toney Douglas (NYK)
F Jerebko DET
BellisiMo-Young Turks
CF Antonio McDyess (SAS)
CF Carlos Boozer (UTA)
CF Matt Bonner (SAS)
F Antawn Jamison (CLE)
F Hakim Warrick (CHI)
FG Paul Pierce (BOS)
G Beno Udrih (SAC)
G Devin Harris (NJN)
G Jarrett Jack (TOR)
C Samuel Dalembert (PHI)
GF Joe Johnson (ATL)
C Dan Gadzuric (MIL))
SoupisGood-Concord Hobgoblins
CF Josh Boone
CF Boris Diaw (CHA)
C Nazr Mohammed (CHA)
G Louis Williams (PHI)
CF Andrea Bargnani (TOR)
F Lebron James (MIA)
FG Corey Maggette (GSW)
G Ronnie Brewer
G Ray Allen BOS
GF Grant Hill (PHO)
GF Shane Battier (HOU)
F Kris Humphries NJN
Frostwolf- Shakuras Voidwalkers
C Brendan Haywood (DAL)
C Kendrick Perkins (BOS)
CF Drew Gooden (LAC)
CFJaVale McGee (WAS)
F Tyrus Thomas (CHA)
G Tyreke Evans (SAC)
G Gilbert Arenas (WAS)
GF Josh Smith (ATL)
GF Josh Howard (WAS)
F Louis Amundson (PHO)
CF Solomon Jones (IND)
Mourning-Amsterdam Pidgeons
G Curry (GSW)
G Rodriguez (NYK)
G Mo Williams (CLE)
F Beasley (MIA)
F Villanueva (DET)
CF David Lee (NYK)
G Sessions (MIN)
GF DeRozen (TOR)
G DJ Augustin (CHA)
G Redd (MIL)
Dr. Badd-Cedar City Raven Redux
C Hasheem Thabeet MEM
C Oden POR
F Yi Jianlian WAS
CF Hayes (Hou)
F Carmello Anthony (DEN)
F Jordan Hill (Hou)
F Casspi (SAC)
G Rubio MINN
G Bibby (ATL)
G Lawson DEN
G Hinrich
G Maynor (OKL)
G T.J. Ford (IND)
GF Garcia (SAC)
G Jerryd Bayless (POR)
Pacertom-GnawBone Hounds
C Brad Miller CHI
C Deandre Jordan LAC
CF Noah CHI CF
CF Stoudamire PHO
CF Milsap UTA
F Gomes MIN
G Jameer Nelson ORL
G Lowry Hou
G Ridnour MIL
G Dragic PHO
GF Budinger Hou
GF Gerald Henderson CHA
tnt- Just Dynamite
CF Kevin Love MIN
CF Hilario DEN
CF Ben Wallace DET
F Caron Butler DAL
GF Iguodala PHI
CF Nowitski DALi
G Billups DEN
G Terry DAL
G Chalmers MIA
F Glen Davis BOS
CF Eddy Curry NYK
redbull_yamaha-Tassie GO!!!!! Warriors
CF Bogut MIL
CF Dwight Howard ORL
F Harrington NYK
F Kirilenko UTA
G Westbrook OKL
G Stuckey DET
CF Robin Lopez PHO
G Ellington MINN
GF Terrence Williams NJN
GF Anthony Parker CLE
GF Nick Young WAS
kerosene-Oakland Oaks
C Dampier DAL
C Duncan SAS
CF Bonner SAS
CF Varejao CLE
F Mbah a Moute MIL
F Dante Cunningham POR
F Barnes ORL
F Rashard Lewis ORL
G Nash PHO
G Parker SAS
G Wes Matthews UTA
G Barbosa PHO
burnzone-Indiana Firestorm
G Ellis GSW
G Martin Hou
G Flynn MIN
G Conley MEM
G Price IND
GF Roy POR GF
F West NOR
F Chandler NYK
GF Dahntay Jones IND
F Williams ATL
CF Okafor NOR
C Hibbert IND
Harlem- Harlem Funkadelic
G Calderon TOR
G Ginobilli SAS
G Jennings MIL
C Bynum LAL
CF Horford ATL
CF Blatche WAS
GF Brewer MIN
G Foye WAS
F Brockman SAC
F Donte Greene SAC
GF McGrady NYK
CF Chandler CHA
Pig Nash-Nash City
C Gasol LAL
CF Murphy IND
F Kenyon Martin DEN
GF Granger IND
GF Gay MEM
G Crawford ATL
G Bynum DET
GF Hamilton DET
CF Gortat ORL
F Anderson ORL
GF Salmons MIL
F Outlaw POR
G Baron Davis LAC
Roaming Gnome-Roaming Gnome's Fury
G Wade MIA
G Kidd DAL
G Robinson BOS
F Landry SAC
CF Camby POR
CF Randolph MEM
F Hansbrough IND
CF Wallace BOS
GF Stojakovic NOR
F Nocioni SAC
CF Andersen Hou
GF Rush IND
newman8r-Crazy Canucks
CF Jefferson MIN CF
CF Aldridge POR CF
CF Scola Hou CF
CF Thompson SAC CF
F Ariza Hou F
GF Wallace CHA GF
GF Deng CHI GF
G J.R. Smith DEN G
G Fernandez POR G
G Gordon LAC G
G Holiday PHI G
CF Pecherov MIN CF
jose slaughter-Bangkok Banshee
C Kaman LAC
C Hawes SAC
CF Gasol LAL
CF Speights PHI
CF Turiaf GSW
CF Wilcox DET
GF Batum POR
G Deron Williams UTA
G James Harden OKL
GF Martell Webster POR
G Blake LAC
CF Chris Anderson
Venice-Venice vagabonds
C Shaq CLE
C Illgaukas CLE
CF Bosh TOR
F Garnett BOS
CF Craig Smith LAC
CF Tolliver GSW
G Bryant LAL
G Miller POR
G Farmar LAL
GF Carter ORL
GF Delfino MIL
GF Dunleavy IND
Canuckleheads-Little Fort Bottom Feeders
G Rose CHI
GF Jackson CHA
GF Morrow GSW
F Ilyasova MIL
F Prince DET
CF Biedrins GSW
CF Krstic OKL
CF Frye POR
GF Turkoglu TOR
GF Richardson PHO
G Thornton MOR
G Ben Gordon DET
Scott_H-Las Vegas Vengence
C Lopez NJN
CF Dejuan Blair SAS CF
F Odom LAL
F Amir Johnson TOR
CF Serge Ibaka OKL
G Jeff Teague ATL
G Paul NOR
G Collison IND
G Felton CHA
G Iverson
GF Daniels BOS
Gf Wright MIA
So get those protected lists to me by Sunday, Oct 3 @ 11:59 p.m. and I'll see ya one draft day, Sunday, Oct 10th @ 10:00 a.m.!!
-ScottHey! What're you kicking me for? You want me to ask? All right, I'll ask! Ma'am, where do the high school girls hang out in this town?Comment
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Re: League update
Attention! The Nash City Razorbacks are currently seeking a deal that turns any or all of these players into one better player. I am also willing to move down in the draft from 37.
That is all.
G Bynum DET
GF Hamilton DET
F Anderson ORL
GF Salmons MIL
F Outlaw PORComment
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I have an 11th hour trade.
Canuckleheads-Little Fort Bottom Feeders and
Scott H/Las Vegas Vengence
Canukleheads-incoming
Las Vegas's first round pick (9th pick overall)
Lamar Odom
Scott H-incoming
Andris Biedris
Jason Richardson
So plus canuckleheads on your draft sheet in my slot.
Also, newman8r and his Crazy Canucks is giving up his first round pick so he can keep Jrue Holiday, so everyone behind him will be bumping up a slot in the first round of the draft.Last edited by Skaut_Ech; 10-03-2010, 10:15 PM.Hey! What're you kicking me for? You want me to ask? All right, I'll ask! Ma'am, where do the high school girls hang out in this town?Comment
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Re: League update
Hey Scott
I think the Gasol on Pig Nash's team in Marc, playing in MemphisComment
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Reminder: Our draft will be this Sunday starting at 10:00 a.m., EST.Hey! What're you kicking me for? You want me to ask? All right, I'll ask! Ma'am, where do the high school girls hang out in this town?Comment
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woo! lets get this started.Comment
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Re: League update
I'm sorry if I've missed it, but have the protected lists gone out?“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” - Winston Churchill
“If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to serve as a horrible warning.” - Catherine AirdComment
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No, I haven't had time. I'm hoping to get it out this evening.Hey! What're you kicking me for? You want me to ask? All right, I'll ask! Ma'am, where do the high school girls hang out in this town?Comment
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Skaut / Team, when does the draft page open up so I can start making my list and preparing for the draft ?,Ya Think Ya Used Enough Dynamite there Butch...Comment
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Draft page doesn't open up until the draft actually starts.Hey! What're you kicking me for? You want me to ask? All right, I'll ask! Ma'am, where do the high school girls hang out in this town?Comment
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