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    Well, lets just say this has been a longtime coming.

    A couple of years ago when I first joined this site I talked of putting on YouTube a kind of tribute/examination/celebration of Roy’s four years at Georgetown (no Pacers highlights unfortunately). It would be a way to show the type of progress he had made as well as allow Pacers fans who had not seen much of Roy to get a sense of the type of player their team was getting. I was receiving advice from folks on how to transfer my DVD footage and put it online and when that failed I offered to give my DVD to someone on this site who were more tech savvy and could put the stuff up on YouTube for me. Nothing ever came of it though.

    Two years later you guys know the type of player and person Roy is. However I still kept the footage. Now that I’ve been given some instructions on how to put video online, I’m going to be spending a lot more time the next couple of years doing so. Still I wanted to fulfill my promise to myself to get the Roy footage up and running so I decided to make it my first major experiment in online uploading.

    What I have done I don’t think ever has been done before for a college player or perhaps not even a pro player. That may suggest how silly it was of me to do it in the first place. But what’s done is now done. Basically I have taken Roy’s play over the course of four years...in order btw-every game is placed in chronological order...and put it up in an online archive for everyone to see.

    Even without including all games and all highlights this supersized highlight reel is broken down to SEVEN parts with most of them being as long as ten minutes.

    This is not going to be for everyone. Roy isn’t Mr. Highlight after all and isn’t the most exciting guy to watch (compared to Allen Iverson whom I’m also putting together Hoya clips for YouTube with a guy in China Roy’s footage is pedestrian). Nonetheless for those interested you will see how Roy grew as a player on the court and see him do things that many scouts and college basketball fans never realized or forgotten about. You will also see him share the same court with future NBA players such as Jeff Green, DaJuan Summers, Aaron Grey, Rudy Gay, Hilton Armstrong, Josh Boone, Tyler Lawson, Luke Harangody, Wilson Chandler, Joakim Noah, Kyle Lowry, Al Horford, Hasheem Thabeet, Sam Young, DeJuan Blair , Corey Brewer, Wayne Ellington , Mike Conley, Dante Cunningham, Wesley Matthews, Greg Oden, Deron Williams, Brandon Wright, Jared Dudley, Hakim Warrick and future teammates Josh McRoberts, Tyler Hansbrough and AJ Price. Whew. And those are just the ones I can remember. That’s what happens when you stay in school for four years. You tend to run into everybody.

    Seven parts is a time-killer to be sure. But, hey, at least there is a holiday on Monday for most of us. And with Roy’s popularity on this forum arguably being at an all-time high maybe now is the perfect time to post this. Excuse me, though, for those two or three highlights which I wasn't paying attention and let run on too long. This was my first attempt at something like this.

    Below is a link to all seven parts. For what its worth my faves are Part Two, Part Five and Part Seven.

    Hopefully down the road I can do something like this for Roy's pro career if warranted.

    PART ONE
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWqS2_phBqA

    PART TWO
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rxenb...eature=related

    PART THREE
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWHSN8C2R0A

    PART FOUR
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4FRo...eature=related

    PART FIVE
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0G-_...eature=related

    PART SIX
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAy3x...eature=related

    PART SEVEN
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQ2Vp...eature=related
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    Man... he has come a long way >>> Go ROY!!!
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    Thanks for posting these. Can't remember if it's the end of five or six, but Hibbert's strong game vs. Oden is in there. That's the one that put him on the map for most Hoosiers.

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    I'll never forget Roy making a three to beat Uconn in the last seconds of the game, I believe it was his senior season. :P

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    It was. I have that game on tape.

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    Hey Roy just gave you a shout out on Twitter!

    "Big props to KennerLeaguer. The clips are amazing. Gotta get in touch with you. I have something special to give you for your hard work."

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    KennerLeaguer, my name is Kent Boone, and I am a big Gtown fan, perhaps Gtown's #1 fan as coach Thompson tells me. I been watching Big Roy since he was 14 when he was playing AAU for the Potomac Valley Blue Devils. I've coached against him when he was playing 16 and under also. I was coaching for Sky's the Limit AAU team, I'm sure Roy remembers. Anyway, I've watched his development since then all the way through college. I was the one who would argue the fact how good and the repetoire of moves that Roy had. Other's would argue about nonsense, and I would say how can Roy do anything if he doesn't get the ball? I was like if I had an All-American center or a 7 footer that was legit, I would feed him the ball at will. Roy ran the court, he played defense, he dived for loose, he altered shots, he blocked shots, man Roy did everything a big man could do. If and when the guards gave the ball to him he'd either make the basket or get fouled. But he didn't get the ball at will like he should have, but he made it through all of the bull. Fans and everything. He's a very strong man, I can't say young man because he's a full man now. I really love Big Roy, I've gotten into serious beefs about him and always defended Roy. Austin Burton from Dimemag is the same way I am, he says Roy is the best center in the league now. The Dimemag editor told me about Austin down at The Goodman League at Barry Farms and introduced him to me. We definitely had something in common. KL i've been going to Kenner for almost 30 years man, and I definitely saw that year when Roy's team won the KL championship and this was because of him and those guards he had. He had those two kids that played for Gonzaga High School Stanley Hodge and the other kid I can't think of they're names but they knew who to give the ball too if they wanted to win and they did. Big Roy!

    KL my son was on that AAU team that Roy played against his name was Chavis, he passed away from bone cancer at 19. I have some dvd's of his games and I'm in the same boat you were in, I want to put them on Youtube, but don't know how. Can you please help me. I also have a blog I dedicate to my son and the Hoyas called Glidehoyas...

    http://glidehoyas.blogspot.com/2010/...ll-season.html

    Here's a story TheHoya.com did on me and blog KL:

    http://www.thehoya.com/sports/george...part-fan-base/

    Is there a place on here to say Thank You! If not, Thank you fellas!
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    Welcome, Kent, and a comment you made brings up something I'd "shelved" for a while myself, but I want to get back to now regarding Roy's touches.

    I'm asking you, but really I'd like to see everyone's answers:

    1) Why hasn't Roy gotten more touches in college and so far in the pros?

    2) Do you think playing with Darren Collison will increase Roy's touches?

    3) What's the best guard Roy has ever played with before, and how did that guard help Roy offensively?

    *edit* I wrote this before I'd finished reading your entire post, Kent. I'm sorry to hear about your son.

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    dude NICE WORK!
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    Welcome, Kent, and a comment you made brings up something I'd "shelved" for a while myself, but I want to get back to now regarding Roy's touches.

    I'm asking you, but really I'd like to see everyone's answers:

    1) Why hasn't Roy gotten more touches in college and so far in the pros?

    2) Do you think playing with Darren Collison will increase Roy's touches?

    3) What's the best guard Roy has ever played with before, and how did that guard help Roy offensively?

    *edit* I wrote this before I'd finished reading your entire post, Kent. I'm sorry to hear about your son.
    1 & 3 I don't know, but the answer to 2 better be a 'yes.'
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    1 & 3 I don't know, but the answer to 2 better be a 'yes.'
    I think it will be. Collison seems like the type of PG that likes to do the dribble down the lane and give a handoff to a big man. And Roy will be the best option.

    I'm also hoping we revamp the offense a little bit, with the two pgs we'll most likely be playing we can play a PnR with Roy..which should give him more touches.

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    That really is a great job on those videos.
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    Go to part 3 if you want to see Roy school that big worthless stiff Zoubek (he also schools McRoberts a couple times in the same game).

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    Hey Roy just gave you a shout out on Twitter!

    "Big props to KennerLeaguer. The clips are amazing. Gotta get in touch with you. I have something special to give you for your hard work."

    Ha ha! That's great.

    Hey, Big Roy, if you are reading you don't have to worry about giving me anything. As a Hoya fan you already gave me four wonderful years. Besides I don't do twitter and to my family and friends' chagrin I don't have a Facebook page either.

    Roy, I first saw you in person when you were still in high school but suited up for the Tombs in The Kenner League. That was the summer in which the Kenner League games were not played at Georgetown but I believe on the UDC campus instead. Back then you were young and awkward on the court. It wasn’t your finest day when I first watched you. In fact I came away from that game thinking you were light years away from being a true D1 college prospect . I also recall the coaches on your team or someone in the stands imploring you to run the court and to finish inside. Screams of “Roy do this...Roy, run...No, Roy” echoed throughout the building so loudly that I felt embarrassed for you. And of course people in the stands were laughing at you. You must have heard some of that. I thought to myself that surely you weren’t going to show up again the following weekend to take that abuse. Most kids wouldn't. I probably would have been absent myself if I had been in your shoes. But the amazing thing about you is that you did return to play again.

    The following summer, a couple of months before you became an official college freshman, you were playing with the Tombs once more. I saw such marked improvement in your game and you even had one or two pretty good performances. Still you had major difficulties in running, in finishing, in keeping your coordination. Basketball fans always expect big men to slam everything within reach but when you did layups many folks in the crowd (especially particularly loud boisterous types who were there to support players of other teams) would laugh and shake their heads. Even some of your teammates in the stands and on the bench would break out into laughter as you missed awkwardly or lost your balance.

    Once again I must point out that a lot of young players have big egos that wouldn’t allow them to place themselves in a position to be ridiculed. They would have bailed. In fact there were talented players that summer, some with presumed NBA expectations, who would have a game in which they didn't play well or didn’t think they were getting treated fairly , who would decided to not play in the following games. These guys were at the time better players than you but had too much pride to allow themselves to be humbled in a summer league game. But you, on the other hand, showed up for EVERY game. You came back again and again and took the abuse and the scorn and the ridicule and the schooling. You did it I presumed because in the end you wanted to get better and you knew the only way to do that was to go out there and learn on the court, even if it meant getting your head handed to you. If that meant going toe-to-toe with an NBA player like Brendan Haywood then that what you were going to do (and your refusal to back down from him almost led to a fight between you two). That was when I realized that you were going to make something of yourself. You had heart , you had a work ethic and you had an obvious desire to improve. You put aside your pride and allowed yourself to be humbled by the game in order to grow.

    Over the years I saw you get better each summer during the Kenner League. You won three straight KL championships and would have won a fourth won as well if you had not played for your country in international competition during the summer leading up to your senior season at Georgetown. I've seen many great players come through the Kenner Leagues. Many All-Americans, many future pros. But you were the best winner of them all because of the results of your team on the court and how you managed yourself as a man off the court by deciding to keep showing up. Thanks for the memories.

    And I will also say that some of the "big timers" from various programs who showed up at the Kenner League with far better reputations and games than you, have not had close to the NBA success that you have achieved so far. That's because you had the work ethic and they did not. I would advise that you never lose that work ethic, but I know that’s unnecessary. You’re the type of player who will always want to improve.

    Keep up the good work.

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    KennerLeaguer, my name is Kent Boone, and I am a big Gtown fan, perhaps Gtown's #1 fan as coach Thompson tells me. I been watching Big Roy since he was 14 when he was playing AAU for the Potomac Valley Blue Devils......

    Hey, Kent. How are you? I've checked out your site a few times (including just last week). Its very nice.

    Thanks for sharing all that history and information in your post. I'm sorry about the loss of your son.

    As for your request, like I wrote in the original post I needed assistance myself in getting the highlights ready for a YouTube upload. A co-worker of mine had to convert my DVD edits into a type of video that could be uploaded. I am at this time not able to do it on my own but in the near future hopefully that will change. If you want to PM me about your highlights go ahead. Its funny because I also have the one televised high school game of Roy when his Georgetown Prep team beat Gonzaga in the Gonzaga Classic. My God. Kent you would understand but no one else here probably has a true grasp on just how far this kid has come. Hibbert was the MVP of the game but he could barely run the court and was as stiff as a board. He ran pigeon-toed in fact and couldn't control his body from swaying one side to the next as he moved up and down. The best way to put it was that he looked like a senior citizen with a foot problem jogging across concrete. When I think of his last game this past season at the Verizon Center when he was beating smaller and more athletic guys up the court it almost seems impossible that just five or six years ago he was that awkward kid.

    This is what some NBA fans fail to grasp. Dwight Howard was such a stud as a high school freshman that he was drafted #1 in the NBA Draft over college star Emeka Okafor. While Howard has definitely gotten better and has developed his game somewhat, the fact remains that in terms of his athleticism and agility he is still basically the same guy as he was as a senior in high school. His body is just more mature, stronger. Hibbert though, as slow and unathletic that he still may seem to some people, is a totally different animal than what he was in his final year of high school hoops. You can't even tell he's the same guy.

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    Welcome, Kent, and a comment you made brings up something I'd "shelved" for a while myself, but I want to get back to now regarding Roy's touches.

    I'm asking you, but really I'd like to see everyone's answers:

    1) Why hasn't Roy gotten more touches in college and so far in the pros?

    In college some of the blame was on Roy for often looking to pass, some of it was on the system. John Thompson III stresses sharing the ball and as a result one guy doesn't dominate in terms of shot attempts. I think last season was the first in which III's teams started to get more aggressive on offense and move at a greater speed (mostly because the talent level is better and more skilled across the board). Still in Roy's final season I never understood why Roy didn't have twice as many shot attempts per game as he ended up averaging. If III's dad had been coaching Roy he would have had Roy touching the ball in the paint everytime down the court. Of course if III's dad had been coaching Roy would be way less well rounded on offense too.

    As for why he doesn't get as many touches as he probably should as a pro let me provide this quote from Athlon's NBA preview : "Hibbert showed significant improvement in an offense not suited for a low-post threat."

    Says it all doesn't it. Imagine if Roy played for Larry Brown in Charlotte. Instead Roy has had to alter his game in order to suit O'Brien's style of play, a style of play I should add that most experts and Gtown fans did not feel Roy could thrive in. The collective view was that Roy needed to be in a slow, halfcourt system to be effective in the NBA. Well, that's not the case even if admittedly halfcourt offense would do wonders for his numbers and overall impact. In the end playing for a guy like O'Brien will end up making Roy a better player because he had to adapt not just to the NBA, but to a style of play that does not value big men in the paint. And he has shown he can do it.

    To be fair even III's system at Georgetown did not work in Roy's favor in terms of exhibiting his back-to-the-basket strengths on a consistent basis. The last time he was in such a favorbale offense was in high school. However some of the fault lays of course with Roy because if he was Karrem or Olajuwan I'm sure the coaches would have been more "flexible" in terms of how they used him.


    2) Do you think playing with Darren Collison will increase Roy's touches?
    I think it will. I can't say for sure. It should though help Roy's overall efficiency. Roy has never played with a point guard who can drive the ball and dish to the big man for easy baskets. He hasn't been that fortunate. Look at the highlights I provided you of his college days. You won't see too many plays in which a teammate drove the lane and fed Roy for a hoop. Nor will you see Roy get many garbage points off of putbacks. Roy had to create most of his shots, had to display footwoork and go-to-moves to get his points. That's why I knew his offensive game coming ino the NBA was far more advanced than people were giving him credit for.

    3) What's the best guard Roy has ever played with before, and how did that guard help Roy offensively?
    Roy played for four years with a guard named Jon Wallace who is the best three-point shooting guard that Gtown has ever had. But Jon didn't have much of a handle and couldn't really crete for himself or others. In fact Jon got a lot of open looks behind the three point line because Roy was able to attract the defense's attention and then find Jon on the perimeter. So Roy probably helped Jon far more than the other way around. Roy also played With Ashanti Cook and Jesse Sapp, two very solid guards, but again neither were very good at creating for others. Its a shame Chris Wright was hurt for most of Roy's senior season.

    In the NBA obviously TJ is a talent that Roy didn't have in the backcourt while at GU. But TJ is not encouraged it seems to drive much in this offense, just to shoot the three. So I can't say if Roy ever had a guard who helped him offensively.

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    Welcome, Kent, and a comment you made brings up something I'd "shelved" for a while myself, but I want to get back to now regarding Roy's touches.

    I'm asking you, but really I'd like to see everyone's answers:

    1) Why hasn't Roy gotten more touches in college and so far in the pros?

    2) Do you think playing with Darren Collison will increase Roy's touches?

    3) What's the best guard Roy has ever played with before, and how did that guard help Roy offensively?

    *edit* I wrote this before I'd finished reading your entire post, Kent. I'm sorry to hear about your son.
    Hello Hicks and thank you so much. Thanks for reading my story on my son in the TheHoya.com

    As a Gtown Die Hard and #1 fan as Coach Thompson says, lol, I can honestly and truly say I can answer all of your questions because I've seen Roy play for so long, and I've seen all 4 of his developing college years. This is probably going to be sort of long, but I'll start with #1...

    There are a few reason why Roy hasn't gotten many touches from his guards in college and in the pros, but I'll start off with college first. I haven't watched that many pro games, but knowing basketball it's probably the same thing.

    I think first off it's the point of not having a "true point guard" who knows the the game is played inside out especially when you have a legit center. It makes the point guards job more easier knowing when you kick the ball inside to your big he's going to shoot the ball and either make it or get fouled.

    Secondly, the guards had to be "unselfish" and "quickly" look inside and make the pass. If you watch some of the Hoyas games on those videos you will see Roy running the floor and at times the first one down the court and seal his man, but the guards or point guard did not either recognize or just did not want to "quickly" insert the ball to Big Roy. I remember one time reading the Washington Post when John Thompson II quoted, "this is not a time for equal opportunity basketball".

    The funny thing about that is I had recognized that too being a big Gtown fan. I watch every single play, and every single move. I saw lots of selfishness. I'ma get mines tonight, then the next game it's someone else saying, "ima get mines".

    At times it made me so angryyyyyyyyyyyy to see the guards not giving Big Roy the ball, and the funny thing about it when you read the newspaper the next it still said Roy Hibbert carries the Hoyas to victory. It seemed most of the shots he made were mostly from his own rebounds. I got so angry hearing people saying Roy wasn't doing this and that, and the first thing I would say is, "well, how the heck can Big Roy do anything when he doesn't get the ball from his guards? He's not a guard, geez."

    Thirdly, from what it looked like to me the guards we had were not fundamentally sound as "true point guards". I say this because there are so many types of passes they could of made to Big Roy and those are: Lob pass, Roy has his hand up, throw a no look pass to the right or left hand whichever side of the basket he's on closest to the basket and let him go get it or either he throws it down (a watch your head type of dunk, lol). Next, the bounce pass no look bounce pass, or simple bounce left or right side of basket.

    The point guard should know the bounce pass is the best and most simplest pass to throw inside the paint to your big. The guards should have penetrated inside the paint dish or make the layup. Oh, believe me, I was on the edge of my seat when I would point out to people, just watch Roy and the guards and tell me what you see. You would see Roy wide open for a split second (that's when he should gotten the ball) and he didn't then the guards would either turn the ball over or jack up an ill advised three pointer.

    This type of game made me sick to my stomach because that was not Hoya basketball. Hoya basketball is played with a thump, go hard style, chuck it in the paint. When the Hoyas did play like this some of the time we won without a doubt, but when we did not play like this the Hoyas struggled just to get the win, but they got it, thank God.

    One thing about Big Roy and me being a guard, I noticed he had soooooooo many moves, and I mean many, but we didn't see all of his moves because he didn't get the ball all the time when he should have. I think I've said everything about #1...Oh, communication between guard and big man played a significant part too...

    2. If Collison is a "true point guard", pass first pg and knows the game is played inside outand communicates with Big Roy he the touches he needs to be score and lead his team, he's ready and willing. Big Roy has always worked mighty mighty hard and would do anything for his team to win. You sure can trust and count on Big Roy. If you had a point guard like Mugsy Bogues, who knew his job you wouldn't have a problem because he played with Alonzo Mourning and told Zo, "if you run with me, I'ma get you the ball, now come on." The point guard has to also know that his job is to make everyone around him better also. Watch some of those videos you'll see Roy posting up and then watch the guards and see if they "quickly" spot Roy open, it'll make you angry if you were such as fan as me, but I got over it, lol...

    3. The best guard Roy played with, wow, that's a hard one because he did not get the ball when he should have most of the times. When Jesse Sapp was developing at the pg position he would give Roy the ball at times, but it I think it was Freeman, sometimes DaJuan Summers, Green, very seldom the guards. The guards we have now understand the game is played inside out Wright, Clark, Sanford, and young Markel Starks definitely understands this.

    When Roy played in the Kenner League you would see all of his moves because he had those two guards from Gonzaga High School on his summer league team: Stanley Hodge and the kid that played at the kid that played at Niagra. They were smart point guards/guards coming out of the WCAC one of the nations best high school programs...the first year Roy's team went to the championship and lost I think, but the second year they went back to the championship and won the whole thing and you should have seen how happy Big Roy was. You would of thought he just won a national championship, that's how good and talent laden the Kenner League is. I looked at Big Roy and said to myself, "it's such a pleasure and an honor to see this young man develop right before my eyes, better yet his eyes and everyone else that was there too."

    Hicks, I could go on and on about Roy man, so if there's anything else you want to know about Roy's play, hard work and dedication just let me know man. God Bless Kent

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    Sookie, I remember that shot, I was sitting right by some UConn fans at the Verizon Center in DC, I was sooooooo happy and they just looked at me, like whattttttttttttt...lol...thanks Big Royyyyyyyyy

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    KennerLeaguer you're pretty accurate man, lol 1. 2. and 3. I just read yours after I put my comment up and thanks for the videos man. KL is the man!

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    Hey, Kent. How are you? I've checked out your site a few times (including just last week). Its very nice.

    Thanks for sharing all that history and information in your post. I'm sorry about the loss of your son.

    As for your request, like I wrote in the original post I needed assistance myself in getting the highlights ready for a YouTube upload. A co-worker of mine had to convert my DVD edits into a type of video that could be uploaded. I am at this time not able to do it on my own but in the near future hopefully that will change. If you want to PM me about your highlights go ahead. Its funny because I also have the one televised high school game of Roy when his Georgetown Prep team beat Gonzaga in the Gonzaga Classic. My God. Kent you would understand but no one else here probably has a true grasp on just how far this kid has come. Hibbert was the MVP of the game but he could barely run the court and was as stiff as a board. He ran pigeon-toed in fact and couldn't control his body from swaying one side to the next as he moved up and down. The best way to put it was that he looked like a senior citizen with a foot problem jogging across concrete. When I think of his last game this past season at the Verizon Center when he was beating smaller and more athletic guys up the court it almost seems impossible that just five or six years ago he was that awkward kid.

    This is what some NBA fans fail to grasp. Dwight Howard was such a stud as a high school freshman that he was drafted #1 in the NBA Draft over college star Emeka Okafor. While Howard has definitely gotten better and has developed his game somewhat, the fact remains that in terms of his athleticism and agility he is still basically the same guy as he was as a senior in high school. His body is just more mature, stronger. Hibbert though, as slow and unathletic that he still may seem to some people, is a totally different animal than what he was in his final year of high school hoops. You can't even tell he's the same guy.
    Yup KL, when you're absolutely right about Big Roy's development, I saw it all, but it all came from his dedication to his school, teammates and himself, he knew what he wanted and he's a veryyyyy smart and intelligent young man, and won't back down from you if you get in his face. Remember he's from DC Metro area and has played against the best in the Baltimore, DC area...he can get mean, lol...I remember at Gtown they had to teach Big Roy how to properly run too...I'll always love that young man, I was glad when he got his haircut too, LOL! My man Roy!

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    Ha ha! That's great.

    Hey, Big Roy, if you are reading you don't have to worry about giving me anything. As a Hoya fan you already gave me four wonderful years. Besides I don't do twitter and to my family and friends' chagrin I don't have a Facebook page either.

    Roy, I first saw you in person when you were still in high school but suited up for the Tombs in The Kenner League. That was the summer in which the Kenner League games were not played at Georgetown but I believe on the UDC campus instead. Back then you were young and awkward on the court. It wasn’t your finest day when I first watched you. In fact I came away from that game thinking you were light years away from being a true D1 college prospect . I also recall the coaches on your team or someone in the stands imploring you to run the court and to finish inside. Screams of “Roy do this...Roy, run...No, Roy” echoed throughout the building so loudly that I felt embarrassed for you. And of course people in the stands were laughing at you. You must have heard some of that. I thought to myself that surely you weren’t going to show up again the following weekend to take that abuse. Most kids wouldn't. I probably would have been absent myself if I had been in your shoes. But the amazing thing about you is that you did return to play again.

    The following summer, a couple of months before you became an official college freshman, you were playing with the Tombs once more. I saw such marked improvement in your game and you even had one or two pretty good performances. Still you had major difficulties in running, in finishing, in keeping your coordination. Basketball fans always expect big men to slam everything within reach but when you did layups many folks in the crowd (especially particularly loud boisterous types who were there to support players of other teams) would laugh and shake their heads. Even some of your teammates in the stands and on the bench would break out into laughter as you missed awkwardly or lost your balance.

    Once again I must point out that a lot of young players have big egos that wouldn’t allow them to place themselves in a position to be ridiculed. They would have bailed. In fact there were talented players that summer, some with presumed NBA expectations, who would have a game in which they didn't play well or didn’t think they were getting treated fairly , who would decided to not play in the following games. These guys were at the time better players than you but had too much pride to allow themselves to be humbled in a summer league game. But you, on the other hand, showed up for EVERY game. You came back again and again and took the abuse and the scorn and the ridicule and the schooling. You did it I presumed because in the end you wanted to get better and you knew the only way to do that was to go out there and learn on the court, even if it meant getting your head handed to you. If that meant going toe-to-toe with an NBA player like Brendan Haywood then that what you were going to do (and your refusal to back down from him almost led to a fight between you two). That was when I realized that you were going to make something of yourself. You had heart , you had a work ethic and you had an obvious desire to improve. You put aside your pride and allowed yourself to be humbled by the game in order to grow.

    Over the years I saw you get better each summer during the Kenner League. You won three straight KL championships and would have won a fourth won as well if you had not played for your country in international competition during the summer leading up to your senior season at Georgetown. I've seen many great players come through the Kenner Leagues. Many All-Americans, many future pros. But you were the best winner of them all because of the results of your team on the court and how you managed yourself as a man off the court by deciding to keep showing up. Thanks for the memories.

    And I will also say that some of the "big timers" from various programs who showed up at the Kenner League with far better reputations and games than you, have not had close to the NBA success that you have achieved so far. That's because you had the work ethic and they did not. I would advise that you never lose that work ethic, but I know that’s unnecessary. You’re the type of player who will always want to improve.

    Keep up the good work.

    Awesome KL, I wasn't accurate about the championships Roy and his teams had won in the Kenner League, my bad, lol...

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    Gentlemen, just think we Big Roy's Hoyas played against Ogden and OH and Ogden was in foul in trouble and had to sit, our guards should have recognized bit time and went right to Big Roy at will and ran the score up and the Hoyas would have won and played against Florida and beat the Gators for the National Championship, I try not to think about what would've happened if Big Roy would have gotten the ball while Ogden sat...how about that one gentlemen...please respond

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    Well, lets just say this has been a longtime coming.

    A couple of years ago when I first joined this site I talked of putting on YouTube a kind of tribute/examination/celebration of Roy’s four years at Georgetown (no Pacers highlights unfortunately). It would be a way to show the type of progress he had made as well as allow Pacers fans who had not seen much of Roy to get a sense of the type of player their team was getting. I was receiving advice from folks on how to transfer my DVD footage and put it online and when that failed I offered to give my DVD to someone on this site who were more tech savvy and could put the stuff up on YouTube for me. Nothing ever came of it though.

    Two years later you guys know the type of player and person Roy is. However I still kept the footage. Now that I’ve been given some instructions on how to put video online, I’m going to be spending a lot more time the next couple of years doing so. Still I wanted to fulfill my promise to myself to get the Roy footage up and running so I decided to make it my first major experiment in online uploading.

    What I have done I don’t think ever has been done before for a college player or perhaps not even a pro player. That may suggest how silly it was of me to do it in the first place. But what’s done is now done. Basically I have taken Roy’s play over the course of four years...in order btw-every game is placed in chronological order...and put it up in an online archive for everyone to see.

    Even without including all games and all highlights this supersized highlight reel is broken down to SEVEN parts with most of them being as long as ten minutes.

    This is not going to be for everyone. Roy isn’t Mr. Highlight after all and isn’t the most exciting guy to watch (compared to Allen Iverson whom I’m also putting together Hoya clips for YouTube with a guy in China Roy’s footage is pedestrian). Nonetheless for those interested you will see how Roy grew as a player on the court and see him do things that many scouts and college basketball fans never realized or forgotten about. You will also see him share the same court with future NBA players such as Jeff Green, DaJuan Summers, Aaron Grey, Rudy Gay, Hilton Armstrong, Josh Boone, Tyler Lawson, Luke Harangody, Wilson Chandler, Joakim Noah, Kyle Lowry, Al Horford, Hasheem Thabeet, Sam Young, DeJuan Blair , Corey Brewer, Wayne Ellington , Mike Conley, Dante Cunningham, Wesley Matthews, Greg Oden, Deron Williams, Brandon Wright, Jared Dudley, Hakim Warrick and future teammates Josh McRoberts, Tyler Hansbrough and AJ Price. Whew. And those are just the ones I can remember. That’s what happens when you stay in school for four years. You tend to run into everybody.

    Seven parts is a time-killer to be sure. But, hey, at least there is a holiday on Monday for most of us. And with Roy’s popularity on this forum arguably being at an all-time high maybe now is the perfect time to post this. Excuse me, though, for those two or three highlights which I wasn't paying attention and let run on too long. This was my first attempt at something like this.

    Below is a link to all seven parts. For what its worth my faves are Part Two, Part Five and Part Seven.

    Hopefully down the road I can do something like this for Roy's pro career if warranted.

    PART ONE
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWqS2_phBqA

    PART TWO
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rxenb...eature=related

    PART THREE
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWHSN8C2R0A

    PART FOUR
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4FRo...eature=related

    PART FIVE
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0G-_...eature=related

    PART SIX
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAy3x...eature=related

    PART SEVEN
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQ2Vp...eature=related
    Thank you so much for this! Roy's progress has been tremendous. You've documented it!

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    So what happens if I am a big Syracuse fan?

    lol

    I remeber all the way back to the days of Walter Berry, Reggie Williams, and the great Dwayne "the Pearl" Washington

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