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    GREENBURGH, N.Y. (AP)—Though he has not spoken to anyone from the Indiana Pacers, Lance Stephenson(notes) is well aware of Larry Bird’s disappointment with his arrest.

    Stephenson says he heard about Bird’s strongly worded statement that was critical of his actions and plans to speak to the Pacers president.

    “I’m just going to try to stay focused,” Stephenson said Tuesday at the New York Knicks’ training facility, where he joined other rookies getting photographed for their Panini trading cards. “I’m going to talk to him, see how he feels about it and I’m going to move forward from it.”

    Stephenson, 19, was arrested Sunday in New York on assault, menacing and harassment charges. Prosecutors said the Pacers’ draft pick pushed his girlfriend down a flight of stairs, then grabbed her and hit her head on the bottom step.


    On Monday, Bird called the arrest “very disappointing to the Pacers franchise and to me personally.”

    Bird added that the Pacers were still gathering facts but “regardless of the outcome of the investigation, Lance should not have put himself in the position he was in early Sunday morning. We have consistently emphasized to our players the importance of not putting themselves in situations where bad things can happen.

    “Once all the facts are known we will deal appropriately with Lance so that he, the team and the entire Pacers community understands that this message cannot be ignored.”

    Indiana drafted Stephenson with the No. 40 pick. The league is monitoring the situation.
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    I wonder why he choose to speak to that individual, and why he choose to wait to speak with Bird

    Lawyers advice?
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    I find it odd that at that point he hadn't talked to Larry or anyone from the Pacers. Seems like the first thing to be done upon his release would be to contact your team and apologize or attempt to explain things. Also I thought all professional teams employed a "security" agent/person who immediately got involved if a player ran afoul of the law (I know the Colts do). Two days later and no contact?

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    This is depressing.

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    It's possible that Bird is avoiding him, because he still hasn't overcome the urge to put Lance's head on a pike outside of the locker room.

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    It's possible that Bird is avoiding him, because he still hasn't overcome the urge to put Lance's head on a pike outside of the locker room.
    Then I highly suggest that Larry stay away from the video of Lance dancing around yesterday.
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    Then I highly suggest that Larry stay away from the video of Lance dancing around yesterday.
    Yeah, if Lance gets off lightly, Larry can't kill him. I recommend a scrotal choke-chain.

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    I'm still trying to figure out what the hell menacing means. Everytime I hear that, I get a little chuckle
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    I'm still trying to figure out what the hell menacing means. Everytime I hear that, I get a little chuckle
    dennis the menace of course!!!
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    Anybody have a link to him dancing around?
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    Anybody have a link to him dancing around?
    imbedded here in the first post
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    No chat. Get rid of this idiot.
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    I dont think you can read to much into him dancing, if he truly is innocent I would dance as well

    Either he knows something we dont yet, or he is a complete idiot
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    I dont think you can read to much into him dancing, if he truly is innocent I would dance as well

    Either he knows something we dont yet, or he is a complete idiot
    I am leaning towards idiot. One would have thought prior experience with the police and his other off the court issues would have straighten him out.

    Hopefully Bird tells him how it will be. If he is found guilty then bye bye and if has the charges dropped or is found innocent then he can stay, but will be on thin ice.

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    I don't know how this is going to work out, but as a guess. The charges will be reduced and he'll get community service (or like Kobe he'll just apologize and pay off the girl). The Pacers will keep him and put him in an anger management program as well as a social responsibility class. They will also suspend him for 60 days. fficeffice" />>>
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    I don't expect to see any real information come out for another 1 - 2 weeks. >>
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    I'm still trying to figure out what the hell menacing means. Everytime I hear that, I get a little chuckle

    A person is guilty of menacing in the third degree when, by physical menace, he or she intentionally places or attempts to place another person in fear of death, imminent serious physical injury or physical injury.

    A person is guilty of menacing in the second degree when:
    1. He or she intentionally places or attempts to place another person in reasonable fear of physical injury, serious physical injury or death by displaying a deadly weapon, dangerous instrument or what appears to be a pistol, revolver, rifle, shotgun, machine gun or other firearm; or
    2. He or she repeatedly follows a person or engages in a course of conduct or repeatedly commits acts over a period of time intentionally placing or attempting to place another person in reasonable fear of physical injury, serious physical injury or death; or
    3. He or she commits the crime of menacing in the third degree in violation of that part of a duly served order of protection, or such order which the defendant has actual knowledge of because he or she was present in court when such order was issued, pursuant to article eight of the family court act, section 530.12 of the criminal procedure law, or an order of protection issued by a court of competent jurisdiction in another state, territorial or tribal jurisdiction, which directed the respondent or defendant to stay away from the person or persons on whose behalf the order was issued.

    A person is guilty of menacing in the first degree when he or she commits the crime of menacing in the second degree and has been previously convicted of the crime of menacing in the second degree within the preceding ten years.

    from the New York State criminal code

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    I find it odd that at that point he hadn't talked to Larry or anyone from the Pacers. Seems like the first thing to be done upon his release would be to contact your team and apologize or attempt to explain things. Also I thought all professional teams employed a "security" agent/person who immediately got involved if a player ran afoul of the law (I know the Colts do). Two days later and no contact?
    Isn't that at the local jail, during the season? They'd need a lot of guys to chase the players around the globe during the offseason.
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    Isn't that at the local jail, during the season? They'd need a lot of guys to chase the players around the globe during the offseason.
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    Lance needs to have a formal press conference to the public to show that he actually cares about ous "family-oriented" organization and will at least make it sound like he's going to turn his life around and act like a mature adult.

    It doesn't even need to be that long and no questions should be asked.

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    Lance needs to have a formal press conference to the public to show that he actually cares about ous "family-oriented" organization and will at least make it sound like he's going to turn his life around and act like a mature adult.

    It doesn't even need to be that long and no questions should be asked.
    Yes, because lip service is what we all want. That will make it all better. Read us something trite that your PR person wrote and we'll all sing Kumbaya together. Patronize us, please.
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    Yes, because lip service is what we all want. That will make it all better. Read us something trite that your PR person wrote and we'll all sing Kumbaya together. Patronize us, please.
    I agree actions speak louder then words, but I actually think saying the right thing is a good first step.

    Just make sure you do not have LeBron Jame's agent write the speach for you

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    Then I highly suggest that Larry stay away from the video of Lance dancing around yesterday.
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    Anybody have a link to him dancing around?
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    Isn't there something in the CBA that mandates PR appearances by NBA players under contract?

    As to Lance's apparent judilence, is he suppose to remain depressed? Just saying I get that we'd like for him to be sitting in a corner somewhere away from everyone contemplating what he has done, but he's there among fellow rookie ball players. I don't think one can expect him to remain down in the dumps 24/7.

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    Isn't there something in the CBA that mandates PR appearances by NBA players under contract?

    As to Lance's apparent judilence, is he suppose to remain depressed? Just saying I get that we'd like for him to be sitting in a corner somewhere away from everyone contemplating what he has done, but he's there among fellow rookie ball players. I don't think one can expect him to remain down in the dumps 24/7.
    I get what you're saying and of course I don't expect him to be depressed 24/7, he is a 19 year old kid after all. It's possible he truly doesn't understand what he's facing if these allegations are true, but none of us really know what he's thinking or what happened.

    I do know that I, as a Pacers fan, have been pretty p*ssed about this since finding out about it Sunday night. Call me a loser or tell me to get a life, but I was extremely excited after the trade and this incident just took all the goodwill out of it.

    I think it was UB who posted that it sucked b/c he was going to have to hear about this from co-workers and I completely agree. For example, the day of the trade I was walking around my downtown office feeling like I was on top of the world and somone asked me why I was so happy. I told them about the trade and they said something along the lines of, "Wow, if he's that good maybe I'll look into going to some games this year." That was a nice thing to hear from a guy who hasn't followed the Pacers since the brawl. Monday morning the same co-worker walks by and says, "Hey, pushed your girlfriend down the stairs lately? Oh wait, only Pacers players do that." Of course the guy is an idiot for saying this, but still just like that his opinion went back down the "Thug Pacers" route. It just sucks.

    So, basically what I'm saying is for me personally it did feel like a gut punch to watch him dance around because I don't feel like he grasps the severity of the "alleged incident" for himself or the organization.

    Lance is a 19 year old kid, I get that. This incident just came at a very bad time from a PR standpoint for the Pacers. Obviously, there is never a good time for an incident like this, but I had really started to feel a positive buzz towards the Pacers last week and now that is pretty much gone.

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    I posted this comment yesterday, but I'll repeat it here. A lawyer was on the Dan Dakich show and he mentioned that if Bird and Lance have a heart to heart talk, Bird may very well become a material witness and be forced to testify at Lance trial and give depositions......So Bird needs to stay clear as far as getting the lowdown on the incident
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    I posted this comment yesterday, but I'll repeat it hear. A lawyer was on the Dan Dakich show and he mentioned that if Bird and Lance have a heart to heart talk, Bird may very well become a material witness and be forced to testify at Lance trial and give depositions......So Bird needs to stay clear as far as getting the lowdown on the incident
    Well, yeah, that...and the pike.

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