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    Charles Barkley is on LeBron's list now, calls the decision a "punk move"
    Thu Aug 12,2010 5:01 PM ET By Kurt Helin
    It's August, but Charles Barkley is in mid-season form.

    He went on ESPN Radio in Dallas Thursday (via FanHouse) and aligned himself with the many people who now see the Miami Heat as the league's villains. And he's having none of LeBron's "taking mental notes of everyone taking shots at me" either.


    "I heard about LeBron's little tweet today that he's remembering everybody who said anything bad about him. And he said 'everybody. Well, I want him to make sure that he puts my name on that (list).

    "I thought that his little one-hour special was a punk move. I thought them dancing around on the stage was a punk move, and I thought he should've stayed in Cleveland. Him joining Dwyane Wade's team was very disappointing to me."


    Barkley did not recruit and team up with another superstar while playing in Philadelphia or Phoenix. He also does not have a championship ring.

    Barkley speaks with the new basketball populist voice -- there are a lot of people inside and outside the league now rooting against the Heat. There will be plenty more negativity like this for James to take note of.

    And yet when the Heat are on the television ratings will go up, when they are in your town tickets will sell out. And they will win. A lot. And if they can get a ring in the next few years, anything Barkley says will go in one of LeBron's ears and right out the other.

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    Default Re: Charles Barkley calls LeBron's decision a "punk move"

    can't the media let this die already?


    off-season...where beating a dead horse happens....

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    Default Re: Charles Barkley calls LeBron's decision a "punk move"

    I love Barkley.

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    can't the media let this die already?


    off-season...where beating a dead horse happens....


    Ideally yes but considering the media spectacle/controversy surrounding it not anytime soon.

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    I want my name on the list too.
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    I have no problem with LeBron going to Miami.

    It's the way he did it that was distasteful.

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    I have no problem with LeBron going to Miami.

    It's the way he did it that was distasteful.

    That's really my only issue which is why I at Barkley and others when it comes to "legacy".

    Barkley who left the Sixers to go to the Suns to try and win a title except he failed. Then he went to the Rockets to do the same thing and failed as well.

    Magic was fortunate to go to a team that was stacked same with Bird.

    Jordan well Pippen matured but had he not he'd probably bail on the Bulls too if he found a better opportunity.

    If he had stayed he'd still be criticized for staying with a team that would never win a title. He wouldn't win either way.

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    Jordan did bail on the Bulls.

    For Baseball, no less.
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    Jordan well Pippen matured but had he not he'd probably bail on the Bulls too if he found a better opportunity.

    If he had stayed he'd still be criticized for staying with a team that would never win a title. He wouldn't win either way.
    Has anyone ever criticized Reggie for staying with a team that never won a title? Team loyalty is highly appreciated. If anything I'd say it helped Reggie's reputation.

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    can't the media let this die already?


    off-season...where beating a dead horse happens....
    It's the biggest story of the year in sports.
    You may not like what they are saying one way or the other.
    But discuss it they will.
    For a LOT longer than this.

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    What annoys me the most about all of this is, many fans consider the Lakers to be the good guys now.

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    Barkley who left the Sixers to go to the Suns to try and win a title except he failed. Then he went to the Rockets to do the same thing and failed as well.
    Barkley didn't leave the Sixers, he was traded to the Suns. He also was the main-guy on that team. He wasn't teaming up with any other superstars. The only time he went for the ring-grab was at the end of his career in Houston.

    I'm glad of Barkley's stance on this. I agree with him completely. Lebron has handled this off-season about as poorly as it possibly could be.

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    I'll bet Barkley is no longer in Wade's T-Mobile "Fave Five" list...

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    Jordan did bail on the Bulls.

    For Baseball, no less.


    Yeah but that was to serve his suspension for gambling(but we're not supposed to talk about that)

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    Has anyone ever criticized Reggie for staying with a team that never won a title?
    Cheryl has.

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    Barkley didn't leave the Sixers, he was traded to the Suns. He also was the main-guy on that team. He wasn't teaming up with any other superstars. The only time he went for the ring-grab was at the end of his career in Houston.

    I'm glad of Barkley's stance on this. I agree with him completely. Lebron has handled this off-season about as poorly as it possibly could be.


    But to me a ring grab is just that a ring grab I don't care how old you are. Yes he's handled it badly to say the least but he wasn't "wrong" to go to Miami he was wrong by doing it in the most tacky way imaginable.

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    What annoys me the most about all of this is, many fans consider the Lakers to be the good guys now.


    I actually don't hate the Lakers I mean except of course for 2000 they never bothered me overall. Probably because everyone already hates Kobe so there's no lovefest as opposed to LeBron.

    Also helps that they've been rather quiet in all of this so out of sight out of mind.

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    What annoys me the most about all of this is, many fans consider the Lakers to be the good guys now.
    That is kinda sad about the Lakers.

    I just hate how all Lebrons followers simply ignore what people have against the baby from akron. It wasn't the move it was the complete lack of tack and downright disregard for the Cleveland fans that he showed in his methods. Comparing James to other ring chasers doesn't change the fact the lebron showed no respect for the people of Ohio and it was an insult to a fanbase unmatched by any other athlete in history.

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    But to me a ring grab is just that a ring grab I don't care how old you are. Yes he's handled it badly to say the least but he wasn't "wrong" to go to Miami he was wrong by doing it in the most tacky way imaginable.
    I totally agree that he wasn't "wrong" as such to go to Miami. I think it will have an adverse effect on his legacy, but ultimately no one can begrudge him that choice.

    The issue is:

    a) He did it in the most classless way humanly possible.
    b) He won't be remembered as one of the best now regardless of how many titles he wins there.

    I think that's all Charles is saying as well.

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    In regard to the "ring-grab" debate. I think there is a difference between doing it later in a career as opposed to when a player is in their prime.

    Charles was at the end of his career when he went to Houston. He wasn't good enough to carry a team anymore. He tried to win one on his own through his best years but fell short. If he had won a championship in Houston it wouldn't have meant as much as if he'd done it in his Phoenix or Philly days and I think he'd be the first to admit that.

    Lebron is doing it during his best years. He can still carry a team, but is "chickening-out" and taking the easy road. I think that's where the issue with James's move lies.

    I honestly feel his move to Miami was a "lifestyle" choice more than anything else.

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    It's the biggest story of the year in sports.
    You may not like what they are saying one way or the other.
    But discuss it they will.
    For a LOT longer than this.
    but why is it the biggest story of the year?
    cause the media is bashing it on everyone's heads as it is.

    its a catch 22

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    In regard to the "ring-grab" debate. I think there is a difference between doing it later in a career as opposed to when a player is in their prime.

    Charles was at the end of his career when he went to Houston. He wasn't good enough to carry a team anymore. He tried to win one on his own through his best years but fell short. If he had won a championship in Houston it wouldn't have meant as much as if he'd done it in his Phoenix or Philly days and I think he'd be the first to admit that.

    Lebron is doing it during his best years. He can still carry a team, but is "chickening-out" and taking the easy road. I think that's where the issue with James's move lies.

    I honestly feel his move to Miami was a "lifestyle" choice more than anything else.


    So if LeBron had stayed and left Cleveland with very little in the tank to join a contender that would be acceptable? Isn't that giving up as well? I mean you stayed that long why go elsewhere and get a ring to a team you don't have nearly as long a history with but hey its a ring right?

    Even though Reggie never won a ring and stayed with the Pacers when he could've easily left I also appreciate that he never came out of retirement to join the Celtics to get a ring either.

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    but why is it the biggest story of the year?
    cause the media is bashing it on everyone's heads as it is.

    its a catch 22

    Its probably the 2nd biggest story, Tiger is #1 obviously.

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    I don't think anyone is saying it was "unacceptable" for him to join Miami.

    If he had stayed in Cleveland, been unsuccessful and then gone to a contender when he was washed-up I think people would've respected his decision more because at least he tried to win on his own, when he was good enough. It wouldn't have meant as much as if he had he won in Cleveland though

    And yes, I'm glad Reggie stayed with one team. I think that's exactly what Charles is saying. He's hurt his legacy by leaving.

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    I don't think anyone is saying it was "unacceptable" for him to join Miami.

    If he had stayed in Cleveland, been unsuccessful and then gone to a contender when he was washed-up I think people would've respected his decision more because at least he tried to win on his own, when he was good enough. It wouldn't have meant as much as if he had he won in Cleveland though

    And yes, I'm glad Reggie stayed with one team. I think that's exactly what Charles is saying. He's hurt his legacy by leaving.

    Except that's what they're saying Miami wasn't his only option would there have been this much of an issue(putting that spectacle hour long special aside) had he gone to Chicago or NYC?

    No there wouldn't unless Bosh/Wade were there with him. He'd still be leaving Cleveland behind yet that's not the issue is it.

    The real issue is from what I see the shattered expectations of many who so desperately wanted LeBron to be the next Michael Jordan and he can't be that if he's with Bosh/Wade now can he?

    Course I never saw LeBron like Mike more like Magic based on his build and style of play.

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