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    Jermaine O'Neal is looking for help. There's no need for a want ad, though, because the Indiana Pacers' All-Star forward already has someone in mind for the job.

    Someone like center Erick Dampier.

    "We've talked an awful lot this summer," O'Neal said of Dampier in a Q&A with the Indianapolis Star. "I told him he should do a one-year deal.

    "The only option out there for him is Atlanta. It's his judgment call. He understands we'd love to have him."
    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1855781
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    Default Re: Jermaine to Dampier... HELP!!

    I am pretty sure this or something similar has been posted already , looks like the same stuff that was in the Indy Star.

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    Sorry if it's a repost. I didn't see it in the main forum.

    Nonetheless, Dampier would be a nice pickup for you guys. He'd definitely fill the hole that Brad left last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joel
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    Sorry if it's a repost. I didn't see it in the main forum.

    Nonetheless, Dampier would be a nice pickup for you guys. He'd definitely fill the hole that Brad left last year.

    I think you'll find a few of us hardcore guys don't want dampier

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    that'd be awesome...Another wristband/headband for me to go after.
    Damp already hooked me up with the headband last yr...heh

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    Yeah, ESPN shamelessly lifted that story from the Indystar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JOneal7
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    that'd be awesome...Another wristband/headband for me to go after.
    Damp already hooked me up with the headband last yr...heh
    I never really wanted Dampier, but in that case, LETS GET HIM!!!

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    forget trading ron, lets convince damp to sign a 1 yr deal

    line up of tinley-jackson-artest-o'neal-dampier

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    forget trading ron, lets convince damp to sign a 1 yr deal

    line up of tinley-jackson-artest-o'neal-dampier

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    YES!!!I hope J.O. can convince him to sign with us.I mean Damp has to know he could be the final piece of the puzzle for us.He would only have to sign 1 year and then after that year he could look for his payday.Damp can't be that stupid he knows we are close and we almost won last year.But he will probably go to Knick land because its all about the $$.
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    forget trading ron, lets convince damp to sign a 1 yr deal

    line up of tinley-jackson-artest-o'neal-dampier

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    I'm not really that high on Dampier.. If he signs a one year and is motivated, he'd be a great pickup.

    I still don't think the Pacers EVER win a championship with Jamal Tinsley as their PG.

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    You're not the first Kings fan I've seen rag on Tinsley. What's that about?

    Tinsley's has great natural PG skills, he's a terrific passer, handles offensive pace well, and since last year showed a decent shot and ok defense. He's a great floor leader.

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    I guess when you have a glut of PG talent on your team, you know a championship calibur PG when you see one. Jamal isn't a solid enough shooter or defender to get you a title. Unless you have someone named MJ or Shaq on your team, you need someone better than him the initiate the offense.

    IMO, he's one of the 5 worst starting PG's in the game. But that's just MY opinion, for wat it's worth.

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    Since when is shooting ability the first priority of a classic PG? I'd think being able to run a team is the first thing you want, and Tinsley has those characteristics in spades. And his defense was decent last year. Not exception, but certainly not bad. I thought it was good, actually.

    And while he was streaky from 3, he did average 37% from down town.

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    I guess when you have a glut of PG talent on your team, you know a championship calibur PG when you see one. Jamal isn't a solid enough shooter or defender to get you a title. Unless you have someone named MJ or Shaq on your team, you need someone better than him the initiate the offense.

    IMO, he's one of the 5 worst starting PG's in the game. But that's just MY opinion, for wat it's worth.

    Wow...how would you know what a championship PG is? Quite obviously it isn't Bibby or Jackson now is it?


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    He's got you there; I don't recall any rings on their fingers, either.

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    Wow...how would you know what a championship PG is? Quite obviously it isn't Bibby or Jackson now is it?
    Ouch.

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    I'm starting to think Tinsley has played some bad games againt the kins or something, all kings fans hate him.

    And does JO always get techs againt the spurs? All spurs fans think he is immature, full of himself, and doesn't give a damn about winning.

    But really, a bottom 5 starting PG? Hmmm

    In terms of passing abilty, he is at least a top 10 PG.

    But if scoring is what your after, any team can put a small shooting guard at PG. I think its more important a PG is a good passer, and runs the offense well.
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    He is a good passer. So is Mateen Cleaves. That's not the number #1 requirement for a good NBA PG these days.

    You have to have a combination of the following:
    Great speed, size, strength, a nice outside shot, the ability to create your own shot, and the ability to run a break. Tinsley lacks too many of those thing IMO.

    But hey, I'm the same guy that wanted Ike Austin instead of Vlade Divac.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joel
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    I guess when you have a glut of PG talent on your team, you know a championship calibur PG when you see one. Jamal isn't a solid enough shooter or defender to get you a title. Unless you have someone named MJ or Shaq on your team, you need someone better than him the initiate the offense.

    IMO, he's one of the 5 worst starting PG's in the game. But that's just MY opinion, for wat it's worth.
    Sounds like the exact same >>>:horsedoo: that Mark Patrick spews everytime Tins name is mentioned. Actually word for word at that when it came to the Pacers chances at winning it all. Yeah, Tins is not Jason Kidd, but come on...bottom 5, !

    If Tins was bottom 5 talent, he would not have the backers that he has on either this forum or the IS forum. Just look at the comments about Scot Pollard...If it were up to a lot of us on these forums, the dude would be traded for sweat bands, gym socks and a used ball because we know we couldn't get the rack of new balls for him!
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    Yeah.. Thanks for Brad Miller. That was an even trade.

    Pollard isn't bad. He just needs to play in a run and run style offense. He thrives when he can get a lot of put back on the break. If you put Pollard on the Mavs as their starting center, He'd average close to a double/double.

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    He is a good passer. So is Mateen Cleaves. That's not the number #1 requirement for a good NBA PG these days.

    You have to have a combination of the following:
    Great speed, size, strength, a nice outside shot, the ability to create your own shot, and the ability to run a break. Tinsley lacks too many of those thing IMO.

    But hey, I'm the same guy that wanted Ike Austin instead of Vlade Divac.
    The only thing I think Tinsley is really lacking there is great speed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joel
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    Yeah.. Thanks for Brad Miller. That was an even trade.

    Pollard isn't bad. He just needs to play in a run and run style offense. He thrives when he can get a lot of put back on the break. If you put Pollard on the Mavs as their starting center, He'd average close to a double/double.
    You think swapping Ron for Peja would open up our running game a bit?
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    Okay... I rated them all. Looks like I was wrong. I have Tinsley rated as the 8th worst Starting PG in the league. I'd take several backups over him (Eric Snow, Bobby Jackson, Jamal Crawford, Nick Van Exel, and Troy Hudson).

    1 Jason Kidd
    2 Allen Iverson
    3 Baron Davis
    4 Stephon Marbury
    5 Mike Bibby
    6 Dwyane Wade
    7 Steve Francis
    8 Sam Cassel
    9 Steve Nash
    10 Tony Parker
    11 Gilbert Arenas
    12 Dre Miller
    13 Chanucey Billups
    14 Jason Terry
    15 Jason Williams
    16 Gary Payton
    17 Kirk Hinrich
    18 Damon Stoudamire
    19 Antonio Daniels
    20 Jeff McInnis
    21 Rafer Alston
    22 Derek Fisher
    23 Jamal Tinsley
    24 Carlos Arroyo
    25 Charlie Ward
    26 Marko Jaric
    27 Chuky Atkins
    28 TJ Ford
    29 Tony Delk
    30 Jason Hart

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    You think swapping Ron for Peja would open up our running game a bit?
    I do, and that would help Pollard a lot.


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    Good God you put Fisher ahead of Tinsley.

    Harder to argue with most of the others, but that's not really a knock on Tinsley as it is a demonstration of how many quality PGs are in this league.

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