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    Default Re: Yahoo reports a done deal!! We turned Troy Murphy into Darren Collison and Posey!!

    I feel pretty "in the loop"

    I just chatted with BRush over twitter and filled him in on the deal ;-)


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    @IamThaKing25 Yes... Murph is headed to the Nets... We are getting Collison and Posey from Hornets!
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    The next question is.....do we keep trying to develop Lance as a 1?
    Well, the Pacers know already that Lance is capable of playing SG. So, I believe they will continue giving him minutes at PG so that he is able to cover both positions.

    Besides, AJ is out, and if we dump Ford, we will need someone to cover PG until AJ returns. Seems to me like it would be better to use Lance than to go out and get another PG to back up Collison. That would mean we would have to dump a second player to open up a roster spot for a backup PG.

    So, yes. I think Lance would still have to be in the mix at PG.

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    Default Re: Yahoo reports a done deal!! We turned Troy Murphy into Darren Collison and Posey!!

    Just a couple of notes here.

    First, thank you to flox for starting this thread. Man, you were all over it with all the links!

    Second, I wonder which team (or teams) initiated this trade. Not that it is a big deal, but someone had to get the ball rolling, and I think it would be interesting to know how it all came about.

    Lastly, NO MORE MURPH-LEAVY comments can be made after this trade. It seems like those two have been joined at the hip forever. Maybe this will be good for both of them.

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    You're right...he's a SG/SF. Before signing with the Hornets, Posey was the good luck charm for Teams. When he went to Miami, the Heat won a Championship. When he went to the Celtics, they won a Championship. Of course, I guess that trading for Shaq ( for the Heat ) and then the Celtics trading for KG/Allen makes a huge difference.

    If he still has some gas in his tank...my guess is that JO'B will play Posey ( specifically a Vet that can still hit the 3pt shot and shows some inkling for perimeter defense ) behind Granger/Dunleavy/BRush in the SG/SF rotation.

    I always wanted Posey on the Pacers....too bad it's 3 or 4 years too late.
    Posey actually played the 4-spot quite a bit with the Celtics during their championship season... especially when they went small late in games (Rondo, Allen, Pierce, Posey, KG)

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    Troy has been "languishing" in Indiana? I do not think that word means what nj.com thinks it means...
    I think it's fair to say he's been languishing on the Pacers. He has. We all have. I just don't think New Jersey should be saying it as if the situation was changing.

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    This is very good news.

    Between Price and Collison, the Pacers most likely have their answer at PG. And buying out TJ means that these two will get to play. My only concern is this current offense with Collison's tendencies. But we won't have Jimmy much longer, and as other's said, if we're smart, we'll run a PnR offense.

    Lance can play his actual position.

    This trade seems rather dumb from NO's persepective though. They know they are more than likely losing Paul, right?

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    With Troy gone adding Rolle for depth is much more important than keeping TJ inactive like last year... (remember JOB's philosophy, for TJ, meaningful min. or none at all, so if Collison Starts and they want Lance and AJ to develop, where does that leave TJ? Yep in a suit.)
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    lol what people can't focus at work over this... yes exciting that we got a trade for a young pg, but it's not like we got chris paul, or rondo, this is a second year player who we haven't even seen play in our system yet, and we are also taking on posey....

    Honestly I was more excited draft night. and IMO I still feel Lance and Paul have more upside than Collison I don't really see him growing that much from where he is now....

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    Now we just need to get rid of our asshat coach, and we'll be in business.
    For those that have argued we had no choice but to keep O'Brien due to having a roster no respectable coach would want any part of... Does this change your thinking now?
    O'Brien has been fired! Yay! What took so long?

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    This is very good news.

    Between Price and Collison, the Pacers most likely have their answer at PG. And buying out TJ means that these two will get to play. My only concern is this current offense with Collison's tendencies. But we won't have Jimmy much longer, and as other's said, if we're smart, we'll run a PnR offense.

    Lance can play his actual position.

    This trade seems rather dumb from NO's persepective though. They know they are more than likely losing Paul, right?
    Losing Paul when? He's under contract for two more years. He's not going anywhere.

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    Is it possible that the pacers are set at the point guard position for the next ten years. Seriously. Collison starting, AJ backing up and lance at the third point guard and backup shooting guard.

    IMO that is the best thing about this deal.

    Of course the question becomes,
    How good will Collison become

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    I signed on about 10 minutes ago. I am about to go nuts. When can we say this is really official?

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    lol what people can't focus at work over this... yes exciting that we got a trade for a young pg, but it's not like we got chris paul, or rondo, this is a second year player who we haven't even seen play in our system yet, and we are also taking on posey....

    Honestly I was more excited draft night. and IMO I still feel Lance and Paul have more upside than Collison I don't really see him growing that much from where he is now....
    Turd in the punch bowl.

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    Why? We need both a roster spot and some salary space to sign Rolle, which seems like a good idea. Getting TJ out of the way removes some disgruntlement from the locker room.

    Yep, the $ cost is not good if we plainly waive him, but the floor advantage is there.
    Maybe we could trade someone else or waive someone like S. Jones? Seems like a bad time to just cut a valuable trading asset...

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    Losing Paul when? He's under contract for two more years. He's not going anywhere.
    He wants out supposedly. And typically you have to make the superstar happy.

    Personally, I would have been looking to trade Paul for something really good, and keep the cheaper Collison.

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    For those that have argued we had no choice but to keep O'Brien due to having a roster no respectable coach would want any part of... Does this change your thinking now?
    Not sure. We are still really weak, poor at the big positions. With our 4's and 5's, the best the pacers can be is a 42-45 win team.

    But for now I'll take that

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    Collison/Price/Stephenson
    Rush/George/Stephenson
    Granger/George/Dunleavy
    Hansbrough/McBob/Rolle(hopefully)
    Hibbert/Rolle/Foster

    At least 7th in the east maybe as high as 4th.

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    I signed on about 10 minutes ago. I am about to go nuts. When can we say this is really official?

    According to Chad Ford......now!

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    Call completed. Trade official
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    Collison/Price/Stephenson
    Rush/George/Stephenson
    Granger/George/Dunleavy
    Hansbrough/McBob/Rolle(hopefully)
    Hibbert/Rolle/Foster

    At least 7th in the east maybe as high as 4th.
    Lets not be too quick with predictions. Still really weak at the 4 and 5 positions, probably the worst in the NBA in the big dept. depending on Hans and Jeff's injuries

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    Here's to hoping that Roy's workouts with Walton yield some big results...

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    Turd in the punch bowl.
    Says the guy that just proverbially crapped all over an appreciation thread.

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    Maybe we could trade someone else or waive someone like S. Jones? Seems like a bad time to just cut a valuable trading asset...
    TJ Ford is not a valuable trading asset. TJ Ford has been stuck here for a year and a half because NO ONE wants him.

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    Chad Ford is going to be on JMV in a few

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