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    On a scale 1-10...10 being the worst.
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    Default Re: How bad are the Pacers?

    This thread is an 8.5 or so, not sure about the Pacers.

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    Trust me Coop, I'm one of the biggest fans out there, love my blue and gold, but this is an honest post. How bad are they? You really gotta be honest with yourself, don't be so optimistic....I'd say the are a 7.5 to an 8.

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    So bad that we are all praying a second round pick can carry this team at pg this season.

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    Can I just ask why we are talking about a scale of 1 to 10?

    They just played an 82 game season. that is a pretty good indicator of how good they are by a more meaningful scale. They finished 32-50 or .390. They won 20 games more than the worst team in the East and 29 games fewer than the best team in the East. Those are real, interval scale results -- much more meaningful than a ordinal Likert opinion scale.

    And anyway, the 09-10 team is history. As far as the new team, we don't know who will be on the roster in November.

    But if you really want a comment, I'm saying......
    And I won't be here to see the day
    It all dries up and blows away
    I'd hang around just to see
    But they never had much use for me
    In Levelland. (James McMurtry)

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    Trust me Coop, I'm one of the biggest fans out there, love my blue and gold, but this is an honest post. How bad are they? You really gotta be honest with yourself, don't be so optimistic....I'd say the are a 7.5 to an 8.
    I'm not being optimistic or pessimistic. I just don't understand the point of talking about how good or bad a team is based on an arbitrary scale. I love dog-days-of-summer discussion as much as the next guy, but doesn't any discussion need context?

    Here's a discussion of where the Pacers rank among Eastern conference teams:

    http://pacersdigest.com/showthread.php?t=55481

    The list in the OP (which I enjoyed reading) has the Pacers as 10th in the East, which I pretty much agree with. Does that make them a 6.5 on the "1-10 badness" scale or more of a 7.5? I'm not sure.

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    I am always optomistic going into each season. I don't like to judge any team in the off season. Last season I wasn't to happy about drafting Hansbrough, or the signings of D.jones, S.Jones, or Watson. That being said, I was optomistic until they started playing the season, and it was evident that they were not playing together and were going to be bad.
    This season, I am at least happy with our how our draft picks have looked so far. So, I will be optomistic that we will have a better season than last year.

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    I'll begin to form my judgments once we have a roster set to head into the season with. Numerous trades are still possible, so I don't worry about last season.

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    Default Re: How bad are the Pacers?

    5.5 - 6.0 . they're just stuck in the middle like always.

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    About 6.09756/10 of "badness"

    according to my calculator and the only real factor you can base this off of - last year's record.

    Put in the mathmatical adjustments for "cutting the fat" from the team when these contracts expire, and add in the benefit of the players we acquire next offseason to round out the roster and....lets see

    ....Error

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    I think this is a silly question right now..

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    Last years team has had time to develop some chemistry and in these last few yars we hardly saw the same team on the court the next year. If it wasn't for these Eastern conference teams getting so better this offseason i would have said we were on our way to maybe the 7th seed maybe the 6th.
    If I had to guess rate next years team it would probably be a 7 or 8.

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    http://www.pacersdigest.com/showthread.php?t=55481

    Instead of trying to attach the number scale, how about just providing comment to the above thread regarding the ranking of teams in the Eastern Conference. It at least has decent comment regarding the teams involved and why they are ranked accordingly.

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    I've been saying we are the bubble of beeing a 7th to and 8th seed for the last few seasons...if we do not make a trade or sign somebody before this season we are going to be stuck with the same team as last year. 2nd round are hot commodities i guess so lets trade a 2nd round pick for a player e.g. beasley, cj watson, first round picks etc. People that are taking this post offensive need to calm down and look at this roster we have set right now and look at the other eastern conference teams that are improving as each day passes. I love King George and I absolutely love Lance Stevie but *****, you can't go into the upcoming season expecting to win with the same team and your draft picks. Not gonna happen...if this team is intact throughout next season we will be drafting 7-11.

    Go Pacers/Colts

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    If...

    1 is a championship
    2 is the conference finals
    3 is the semis
    4 is the playoffs
    5 is the 9th seed
    6 is the 10-12th seeds
    7 is the 13-14th seeds
    8 is the worst team in the East
    9 is the worst team in the league
    10 is the worst team in history

    Then I'd have to say I'm not sure.

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    So bad that we are all praying a second round pick small forward can carry this team at pg this season.
    fixed, unfortunately.

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    So much of the Pacers win loss record depends on who our coach puts on the floor together. If Scott Skiles were our coach, I would say we are about 3. With the Jim and Troy show we are about 8.

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    If...

    1 is a championship
    2 is the conference finals
    3 is the semis
    4 is the playoffs
    5 is the 9th seed
    6 is the 10-12th seeds
    7 is the 13-14th seeds
    8 is the worst team in the East
    9 is the worst team in the league
    10 is the worst team in history

    Then I'd have to say I'm not sure.
    I'd say about 6 or 7 currently on that scale. Switching in a good coach that utilizes our players in a way that really plays to their strengths would bump them up at least a full point. A good draft and free agency signing(s) could have them up to 4 or 5. That may not be where other Pacer fans want our team, but I'm talking about going from below average (now) to solid to good within 2 or 3 years. They will be slightly better this year, but adding a PG, some role players, and a new coach the following year could significantly improve the situation.

    I'm thinking something along the lines of signing a solid coach, drafting a very good PG (Irving, Knight, Selby, or Walker? I'm impatient with the trade idea at this point; just draft a good one next year) with our 1st rounder, and picking up a couple of role players via 2nd round draft pick and free agents.
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    We are in good hands, we have Vitaly Potepenko. Wow

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    So much of the Pacers win loss record depends on who our coach puts on the floor together. If Scott Skiles were our coach, I would say we are about 3.

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    I like the idea of taking 10 minus (win% x 10).

    So 10 - (.39 x 10) = 10 - 3.9 = 6.1.

    So I'll say 6.1.

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    That seems about right Hicks.

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    How can you predict in July how bad this team is going to be when there is almost 3 months of off season left? I'll just wait until UB puts out the annual win prediction thread. Predictions will be more relevant then.

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