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    Default Miami relinquishes 6+ draft picks to S&T Bosh and James

    I posted this on the free agency thread, but it seems like noone is seeing it, so I'm going to repost it here:

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    Udonis Haslem will not be left out of the party.

    The Miami Heat mainstay who seemingly was about to be left out of the franchise's return to its heyday, appears to be on the verge of a free-agent return after some late maneuvering by Heat President Pat Riley.

    In a significant turn of events, the Heat completed a sign-and-trade agreement Friday night with the Cleveland Cavaliers for free-agent forward LeBron James, who already had agreed to join the Heat

    The maneuver offered Riley the flexibility to re-sign Haslem. An NBA source said Friday the expectation was Haslem would now return to the Heat.

    The Heat also plans to add Washington Wizards free-agent swingman Mike Miller. The Heat is expected to sign the former University of Florida standout to a contract in the five-year, $30 million range.

    In essence, the Heat is completing its end game.

    The Heat also finished off a sign-and-trade agreement Friday with the Toronto Raptors that allowed it to give free-agent power forward Chris Bosh a six-year free-agent contract instead of the maximum five-year contract an outside free agent can receive. The Raptors, in turn, will receive the Heat's 2011 first-round pick and the future pick that Toronto owed to the Heat. The Raptors also received a trade exception of roughly $15 million.

    With the sign-and-trade with Cleveland, James also received a six-year package, instead of the maximum five-year deal an outside free agent could receive. The Cavaliers also would receive a $15 million trade exception, in addition to a package of future Heat draft picks that has been reported by the Cleveland Plain Dealer as likely being two first-round picks and two second-round picks.

    The arrangements allow Bosh, James and re-signed Heat free-agent guard Dwyane Wade to each receive similar six-year contracts starting just below the league maximum of $16.6 million for next season.

    The Heat then turned its attention to retaining Haslem. The Heat entered Friday able to only offer Haslem a veteran-minimum 2010-11 contract of $1.1 million. The Heat then could have made up the money to Haslem in 2011-12 and beyond.

    However, with Bosh and James acquired by sign-and-trade agreements, wiggle room was created for a Haslem return.

    Haslem has had contact with several teams, with the Utah Jazz emerging as a suitor in the wake of losing free-agent power forward Carlos Boozer to the Chicago Bulls.

    The Orlando Sentinel is reporting that Orlando Magic free-agent forward Matt Barnes said he has been in contact with the Heat. Barnes earned $1.6 million last season, opting out of the $1.6 million he otherwise would have earned this coming season.

    Other names linked to the Heat are free-agent guards Jason Williams and Mike James, and Cavaliers free-agent center Zydrunas Ilgauskas.

    ESPN is reporting Riley also has a meeting scheduled with Los Angeles Lakers point guard Derek Fisher, although the finances would not appear to work. It is, however, a sign of league-wide interest in the Heat's new high-powered trio.
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    #Cavs sign-and-trade deal with the Heat for #LeBron has not been finalized but will happen. Sources say Cavs will get 4 picks: 2 1st, 2 2nd

    Cavs also will receive a trade exception of up to $16 million. Appears they will not renounce FAs to get under cap and will take exception
    The implications of this seem huge to me:

    * Heat lose 6 draft picks... they're going to have to do it all in free agency over the next few years

    * All three members of the triumvirate get 6 year, pretty much max contracts

    * Heat get more cap space to sign both Mike Miller and Haslem

    Man, this makes James' cops of sacrifice even more ludicrous sounding.

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    Wow, they're going to live and die by the MLE the next few years...that is if the CBA keeps a similar system in place.

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    Also, even though the exception and picks are great for Cleveland, I'm almost surprised they agreed to this. Seems like Gilbert would have been tempted to not let Lebron get 6 years/max $$$.

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    Default Re: Miami relinquishes 6+ draft picks to S&T Bosh and James

    Guess you can do that when your key guys are in the 20's and already superduperstars.

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    How crazy would it be if Cleveland turned that TE into Gilbert Arenas? Maybe it doesn't make sense but its just this weird hunch I have. I don't think Dan Gilbert wants to rebuild.
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    Those draft picks won't mean anything to them anyway when they're winning 65+ games every year and picking last in each round.
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    I know Cleveland needs the draft picks, but honestly I am shocked. I thought the last ink they'd offer LeBron was the infamous open letter. In fact, after reading the open letter I'm surprised they aided the Heat.

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    Those draft picks won't mean anything to them anyway when they're winning 65+ games every year and picking last in each round.
    I don't know, ask the San Antonio Spurs what picking towards the end of the first and second round of every draft can do for you.

    They might not miss out on a star but I wouldn't say they won't mean anything.

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    I don't know, ask the San Antonio Spurs what picking towards the end of the first and second round of every draft can do for you.

    They might not miss out on a star but I wouldn't say they won't mean anything.
    Teams don't care if they missed out on a draft pick when they are hanging banners.
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    LeBron is making his new team give up 4 draft picks so he can earn another $30M? Yup, sure have to admire the kid for not caring about money.

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    I thought it wasn't about the money? So much for leaving that 30 million behind...

    And it doesn't sound like any of them are taking less of than the max...

    This whole situation just sucks more and more if I'm a Cleveland fan. Talk about a lot of empty reasoning from the Lebron. I bet they were hoping this would mostly get swept under the rug.

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    Wow why would Gilbert agree to help the Heat, enabling them to sign all these support player like Mike Miller, and Haslem. What an idiot. What happened to the promise that the Cavs would win before the King, he is practically helping them lay the foundation!

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    Wow why would Gilbert agree to help the Heat, enabling them to sign all these support player like Mike Miller, and Haslem. What an idiot. What happened to the promise that the Cavs would win before the King, he is practically helping them lay the foundation!
    I guess he figured he better get something from Lebron leaving rather then nothing. But yes he is still an idiot!
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    I wish all the media sycophants who said "See, it's not about the money" would print retractions now.
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    He did take away the only thing James had in his pocket by helping him make up the money he "sacrificed" to play in Miami. Now if one of the three goes "Grant Hill" ala Orlando they may be missing those draft picks.

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    He did take away the only thing James had in his pocket by helping him make up the money he "sacrificed" to play in Miami. Now if one of the three goes "Grant Hill" ala Orlando they may be missing those draft picks.
    If one of the three goes "Grant Hill", they still have the other two.
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    Gilbert should have agreed to nothing and gone for high draft picks in a rebuild. Picks 28, 29, or 30 will do little to nothing for the Cavs except force them to offer marginal draft picks guaranteed contracts.

    LeBron got everything he wanted in this deal.

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    If one of the three goes "Grant Hill", they still have the other two.
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    If one of the big three becomes "Grant Hill" they'll be lucky to win one championship...

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    He did take away the only thing James had in his pocket by helping him make up the money he "sacrificed" to play in Miami. Now if one of the three goes "Grant Hill" ala Orlando they may be missing those draft picks.
    Yep, calling draft picks worthless is silly... when you will be dumpster diving for FA rookies every season to fill your roster. And yes, injury could be devastating to this team. Wade has missed more than 21+ games 3 times in 7 years, and Bosh has missed 65 games in 7 seasons (never playing a full one)

    If I were Cleveland you have to get something for Bron, better get some picks and a TE than be left sitting there pizzed off and holding the bag.

    What is done is done... trying to screw LeFraud after the fact serves them no purpose...

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    If one of the big three becomes "Grant Hill" they'll be lucky to win one championship...
    Lebron took a team whose other starters were Zydrunas Illgauskas, Larry Hughes, Drew Gooden, and Sasha Pavlovic to the NBA Finals.

    Dwayne Wade is unquestionably a top 3 NBA player.

    Chris Bosh is a top 5 PF.

    If any of them goes down, they still have the best duo in the league along with Mike Miller and Udonis Haslem. The Lakers and maybe Magic are the only team who can compete with them.
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    If James or Wade goes down, they're not nearly as unbeatable.

    Bosh is one dimensional. Not nearly the complete player Gasol is for the Lakers.

    In a 7 game series, I'd still take the Lakers over this Heat squad even with a fully healthy big 3. They are a more complete squad.

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    Lebron took a team whose other starters were Zydrunas Illgauskas, Larry Hughes, Drew Gooden, and Sasha Pavlovic to the NBA Finals.

    Dwayne Wade is unquestionably a top 3 NBA player.

    Chris Bosh is a top 5 PF.

    If any of them goes down, they still have the best duo in the league along with Mike Miller and Udonis Haslem. The Lakers and maybe Magic are the only team who can compete with them.
    actually it was Daniel Gibson draining 3's in game 6 vs Det, and Eric Snow's leadership in that series that put Cleveland over the top... Not Bron Bron...

    check his game log... Bron has a bad habit of coming up small in the biggest of games... thus the need for "BATMAN" AKA.. D WADE...

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/...PKB4?year=2006

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    actually it was Daniel Gibson draining 3's in game 6 vs Det, and Eric Snow's leadership in that series that put Cleveland over the top... Not Bron Bron...

    check his game log... Bron has a bad habit of coming up small in the biggest of games... thus the need for "BATMAN" AKA.. D WADE...

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/...PKB4?year=2006
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    Eric Snow? Really?
    Did you watch that series?

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