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    Didn't he say he wanted to play here after his current contract was up? I think he would be a good backup at the 5.

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    He could be.
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    yes bring back brad miller

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    My guess is he has us behind:
    -Chicago, esp is LBJ signs.
    -Boston, has expressed interest
    -......

    I would love it, but Bradd will have too much interest, too many options.
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    We don't have a roster spot for him. And he'd probably ask for too much money.

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    yes bring back brad miller
    If he does, does that mean Magnum Rolle will end up at the 4 position?
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    Miller would be a high paid back up if we took him. If we could get him for the mid level exception it would be worth it but, he wants to resign with the bulls. He is 34 and wants to win a championship like every other player in the league. If he came to the pacers he might turn 38 before we become competitive with eastern conference teams in a series.
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    yes bring back brad miller
    Whose money are we going to use? Cause the Pacers can't fit him both on the roster and on the payroll.

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    I don't think Brad would want to play out his final years on the Pacers who are rebuilding still, and aren't even in a direction really.

    Obviously I would not be opposed to have Brad, I just don't see any reason he'd want to come here other than the fact Indiana is his home.
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    I've actually read somewhere here on the digest that he has said he would come back and finish his career here in Indiana, even for the league minimum. He lives here in Indiana somewhere, Fort Wayne?? Also from Purdue.
    Anyhow, I know that was something that was talked about on here before.
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    I've actually read somewhere here on the digest that he has said he would come back and finish his career here in Indiana, even for the league minimum. He lives here in Indiana somewhere, Fort Wayne?? Also from Purdue.
    Anyhow, I know that was something that was talked about on here before.
    He said it... But things have changed since then.
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    The article in question was from 2006.

    http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dl...31/1004/SPORTS

    Miller longs for his Indiana home
    Kings center misses ex-teammates, hopes to be a Pacer again

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    SACRAMENTO, Calif. -- Brad Miller was in the Indiana Pacers' locker room after their win over Sacramento on Sunday before most of the Pacers were out of the shower.
    He looked as if he belonged. He only wishes he did.
    Miller, traded from Indiana to the Kings in 2003 when the negotiations for his contract spiraled out of the Pacers' self-imposed financial reach, is happy in Sacramento. He's thriving on the court, too, averaging 14.9 points on 52 percent shooting and leading the team in rebounding (7.8) and assists (5.5).
    He'd be happier, however, with the Pacers, for whom he played 11/2 seasons. That's why, following their 25-point victory at Arco Arena, he all but closed his eyes, clicked his heels, and said, "There's no place like home" as he stood in their locker room.
    "If it's possible, when I'm done with this, I'll try to finish up there," Miller said. "There won't be an issue of a contract. Whatever it takes. I'll take the minimum."
    The minimum? Miller's contract, which does not expire until after the 2009-10 season, will pay him about $68 million. A minimum contract would be quite a drop. By then, however, Miller will be 34 and have more money than he ever dreamed of having.

    "I got more money saved up now than what I can spend the rest of my life," he said. "I'd have to buy the whole state of Indiana to spend what I got."
    Miller seems intent on doing just that. He already has bought several hundred acres of land in and around Kendallville, where he grew up, and is looking for 400 more on which to build a home.
    He spends most of his offseason there, and will be heading there over the All-Star break. He's hoping to go ice fishing.
    Miller still is a bit dumbfounded at the turn of events that made him a King. Born in Fort Wayne, raised in Kendallville and a product of East Noble High School and Purdue, he was thrilled when he was traded from Chicago to the Pacers in February 2002 as part of a seven-player deal that also brought Ron Artest to the Pacers.
    He walked into CEO Donnie Walsh's office his first day with the franchise and said he wanted to sign an extension right there to ensure he would finish his career in Indiana. That was impossible under league rules, however, and when Miller's contract expired in 2003, the market had shifted out of reach for the Pacers, who were intent not to pay the luxury tax.
    The best the Pacers could do was work a sign-and-trade with help from Miller's agent, Mark Bartelstein, in which the Pacers received Scot Pollard.
    "They never really made an offer," Miller said of the Pacers. "I was wanting to get it done quick.
    "If they hadn't paid Jeff all that money . . ."
    Miller said that for the benefit of Jeff Foster, who was passing by at the moment. Foster is one of his best friends in the NBA, and the two are in frequent contact. Miller exchanged greetings with former teammates Jermaine O'Neal and Austin Croshere, and joked with people who weren't with the Pacers in his time there, such as Pollard, assistant coach Kevin O'Neill and Sarunas Jasikevicius.
    Miller only wishes he could spend more time with them.
    "One day, I'll hopefully get back there and wear these new (Pacers) uniforms, instead of the old pinstripes," he said.

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    We've gotta get this dude back. Not only for Brad, but the hole in Hicks' heart needs filled for when he left.

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    I definitely would not want him back as our team is rebuilding, unless maybe he wanted to be an assistant coach (and since he never played under O'Brien, that won't ever happen until Jim is gone lol). As a player this past season, he looked VERY slow, barely flexible, and very uncoordinated, and I watched him quite a few times this past season. I think that his playing days are almost over as well, so maybe being an assistant for us is possible in the next few years. I just don't see how he scored and even competed night in and night out as I was in awe lol. That is all.

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    We probably want no part of him.

    He never played for the Celtics, did he? How would he ever understand when O'B, McCarty, and Potapenko tell him to get them a bahttle of watah, or wheah they want theah cahs pahked, or for training purposes that they want him to push mow theah yahds?

    Bird would have a full time job, though. As translatin' brainwarsher t' th' O'B Way.


    Seriously, though, the significantly slowed Miller would just be a good lockerroom presence who may know how to get recreational substances for the players safely. He would likely replace Smooth as Director of Player Relations, then, I guess.

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    I don't think Brad would want to play out his final years on the Pacers who are rebuilding still, and aren't even in a direction really.

    Obviously I would not be opposed to have Brad, I just don't see any reason he'd want to come here other than the fact Indiana is his home.


    IIRC, Brad said years ago he'd like to come back to the Pacers and finish out his career some time after he was traded. Maybe something like he'd come back to IN for cheap or free after his contract was up.

    I don't see that happening now, and going to Boston for a shot at a possible ring is more than anything the Pacers can offer. I am under the impression Brad has enjoyed his time in Chicago too, plus it's not that far from his IN home.

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    Brad's got another contract in him. He can get more money from much, much better teams than us.
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    We've gotta get this dude back. Not only for Brad, but the hole in Hicks' heart needs filled for when he left.
    Mine too. I still think it was a mistake not to pay him the money he got especially when you consider that we're basically paying the same amount of money to Troy Murphy now.

    Signing Jonathan Bender and Foster to those unwarranted extensions really messed up the Pacers chances of re-signing Brad.
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    Larry is not coming back, he didn't have a meeting with Orlando for not reason, yeah he is coming back to the NBA but not to the Pacers, the notion that he is a taking a year off and then come back is absurd.
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    It will never happen because we don't have any space for him and frankly I just don't want anyone taking any more time from Roy.

    But if we could get him and say Jeff retires or better yet they trade Murphy then I think Brad would be a great backup center for us if the price was right.

    He might even fit into what JOB wants from a big man, although he does not shoot the three he can hit with confidence from up to 18', he is a superb passer, has always been quicker than people think and is not afraid to get physical on defense.

    The more I think about this the madder I get that we just gave the guy away for Scot Pollard (yes it was a motheren trade).


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    It will never happen because we don't have any space for him and frankly I just don't want anyone taking any more time from Roy.

    But if we could get him and say Jeff retires or better yet they trade Murphy then I think Brad would be a great backup center for us if the price was right.

    He might even fit into what JOB wants from a big man, although he does not shoot the three he can hit with confidence from up to 18', he is a superb passer, has always been quicker than people think and is not afraid to get physical on defense.

    The more I think about this the madder I get that we just gave the guy away for Scot Pollard (yes it was a motheren trade).
    Oh brother. So if in a few days we hear about a a sign and trade involving Bosh, Lebron, Joe Johnson, or Amare we can call those trades also. Brad was grossly overpaid for much of his contract especially the past 3 yearts
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    (yes it was a motheren trade).
    No it wasn't.
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    No it wasn't.
    It absolutely positively was.

    I will bet you whatever amount of money that you want to bet that when we look up the transaction it is listed as a trade.

    2003-07-24 Pacers Scot Pollard, Danny Ferry Brad Miller, Ron Mercer 3-team trade with Kings, Spurs

    Here is a link to the page

    http://www.prosportstransactions.com...arch&start=325

    Here is his listing on basketball-referance.com

    July 24, 2003: As part of a 3-team trade, traded by the Indiana Pacers to the Sacramento Kings; the Sacramento Kings traded Scot Pollard to the Indiana Pacers; the Sacramento Kings traded Hedo Turkoglu to the San Antonio Spurs; and the San Antonio Spurs traded Danny Ferry to the Indiana Pacers.


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    Peck, I think you know our point. Not sure why but I'll repeat it. Brad was leaving the Pacers so the pacers decided to try and get something for him instead of just letting him go for nothing. And when you consider where the pacers were at that time (one of the best teams in the NBA) it was a smart move to try and get something. it wasn't like the pacers really wanted Pollard so they decided lets trade Brad Miller for him.

    Similar to what the Raptors are doing right now with Bosh. Do we lose him for nothing or try to get something in return

    OK, so what. well the so what is, it is nonsensical to complain about the pacers not getting fair value for brad. The question is should they have let him go for nothing or not.


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