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    Default What is the maximum you would give for Collison?

    I really do love Collison and would love to get him. But what is the maximum you would give? I would lay three pieces on the table and tell New Orleans to pick whichever two they wanted. The three would be.

    Rush, taking Okafor, Paul George

    I would think any more than two of these three would be overpaying.

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    Default Re: What is the maximum you would give for Collison?

    I would give them a combo of Murphy/Rush/1st round pick (lottery protected)

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    Collison/Okafor
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    I would give them a combo of Murphy/Rush/1st round pick (lottery protected)

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    Collison/Okafor
    IMO thats way to much for Collision. I think we could get him with out adding in our 2011 first pick.

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    Default Re: What is the maximum you would give for Collison?

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    Default Re: What is the maximum you would give for Collison?

    I would do Murphy + a future 1st for Collison/Okafor.

    Taking Okafor should be enough along with a future first for Collison, IMO. And this trade is an absolute steal talent wise in our favor. People can say what they want but Okafor would help out tremendously down low whether he plays C or PF. We have got to get a PG at some point in time, and Collison is one of the best available.

    We would still be way under the cap next year with Danny, D. Jones and Okafor as our vets + Collison, Price, Rush, George, Stephenson, Hansbrough, Hibbert, and Rolle. That to me is a great situation as a very young team without too many holes to fill and a lot of cap space to figure it out.

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    IMO thats way to much for Collision. I think we could get him with out adding in our 2011 first pick.
    Agreed. I think Murphy and Rush would get it done if we're taking back Okafor.

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    Taking back Okafor will be huge. I was thinking the exact same thing. Murphy + Rush

    Okafor would also benefit us. I dont beleive hes done as a player. He does have a pretty bad contract, but for some reason I dont think that would scared Bird from obtaining him, considering Bird picked up Murphy and Dunleavy
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    Taking back Okafor will be huge. I was thinking the exact same thing. Murphy + Rush

    Okafor would also benefit us. I dont beleive hes done as a player. He does have a pretty bad contract, but for some reason I dont think that would scared Bird from obtaining him, considering Bird picked up Murphy and Dunleavy
    I agree. Okafor's contract is bad, but at the same time I really don't think it is crippling. I mean he is a double-double guy, a good help side defender, gets blocks etc. He will never be an all star, but at worst he is a solid starter.

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    I agree. Okafor's contract is bad, but at the same time I really don't think it is crippling. I mean he is a double-double guy, a good help side defender, gets blocks etc. He will never be an all star, but at worst he is a solid starter.
    I also think moving Okafor back to his original PF position will be a great help to his game. He'd do well next to Roy
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    I also think moving Okafor back to his original PF position will be a great help to his game. He'd do well next to Roy
    Hmm I am not sure, maybe depending on the matchups. But the Lamar Odom prototypes would kill him on the perimeter.

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    Yes Murphy/Rush should get it done, but if not the lottery protected 1st rounder could be used as a sweetner. Maybe they give us a 2nd rounder or some cash back in that scenario.
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    Hmm I am not sure, maybe depending on the matchups. But the Lamar Odom prototypes would kill him on the perimeter.
    And the Lamar Odom types can guard him in the post?

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    And the Lamar Odom types can guard him in the post?
    I was just about to say that.

    Rashard Lewis could have killed Gasol on the perimeter, but Gosal killed him in the interior
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    Yes Murphy/Rush should get it done, but if not the lottery protected 1st rounder could be used as a sweetner. Maybe they give us a 2nd rounder or some cash back in that scenario.
    I'd see if throwing in JOB would get it done.
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    And the Lamar Odom types can guard him in the post?
    Lamar Odom could guard him better in the post then vice-versa. Okafors best offense is rebounding his own miss at times.

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    Default Re: What is the maximum you would give for Collison?

    TJ/Dunleavy + Rush/Hans

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    Default Re: What is the maximum you would give for Collison?

    For collison? : rush and future second round picks.

    For collison and okafor?: murphy/Rush + second rounder
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    And the Lamar Odom types can guard him in the post?
    If I'm the opposing coach, I am not worried about who I guard Emeka Okafor with. I don't consider him an offensive threat. Not scared of the guy. You want to try to score on me by going to Emeka Okafor, go ahead. I dare you.

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    Default Re: What is the maximum you would give for Collison?

    I'm not as enamored with Collison as most of you are....much less the likely price of taking on Okafor's contract on top of likely giving up BRush and/or a future 1st.

    Dunleavy+BRush for Collison+Posey

    is the max I would pay to get Collison.
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    I'm not as enamored with Collison as most of you are....much less the likely price of taking on Okafor's contract on top of likely giving up BRush and/or a future 1st.

    Dunleavy+BRush for Collison+Posey

    is the max I would pay to get Collison.
    There's no real reason for N.O. to get rid of Collison unless they can attach Okafor along with him. What's the point? They have a cheap, extremely reliable backup for CP3 for another 3 years. No reason to get rid of that unless they can get rid of Okafor in the process.

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    There's no real reason for N.O. to get rid of Collison unless they can attach Okafor along with him. What's the point? They have a cheap, extremely reliable backup for CP3 for another 3 years. No reason to get rid of that unless they can get rid of Okafor in the process.
    I don't want Collison at the cost of taking on Okafor....for the very reasons that you suggest and for his overpaid contract.

    If "No Okafor" means "No Collison".....then I'm cool with it. I'll look elsewhere for a PG. Where? I don't know....but I highly value having SalaryCap/Financial Flexibility.

    The only way that I would want to take on another Granger-Level Long-Term contract is if I think that he's a Granger-Level Caliber Player....IMHO....Okafor isn't worth the contract that he received and certainly no Granger-Level Player.
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    Default Re: What is the maximum you would give for Collison?

    It just seems like, to avoid taking back Okafor, you'd need to provide some instant cap relief.

    Convince some team to eat Posey's contract (Preferably Okafor...but yeah right) for our '11 first round pick and then swapping Collison for Rush.

    Which doesn't even work, as Rush makes too much more than Collison. Dude needs a 50% pay raise.

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    TJ/Dunleavy + Rush/Hans

    I like your thinking on this. Trading Hansbrough for Collison I think would be hilarious. I don't think Bird would do it due to the fact it puts egg on his face for drafting Hansbrough.

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    I like your thinking on this. Trading Hansbrough for Collison I think would be hilarious. I don't think Bird would do it due to the fact it puts egg on his face for drafting Hansbrough.
    If he would turn that deal down just to save face then i don't want him as GM any longer.

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    Default Re: What is the maximum you would give for Collison?

    I'm not as opposed to taking on Okafor's contract as some because our situation at PF is also pretty awful. Okafor is overpaid, but who do we have there right now? Do we have a PF on the roster who is significantly better than Okafor? We need someone who can play inside and get garbage buckets. Collison's rookie contract would help counterbalance Okafor's nasty contract a bit, and we would get a pretty nice PG out of the deal.

    I'd deal an expiring and either a player or a draft pick. I like Rush and don't like the idea of giving him up, but I'd probably do it if we could get two potential starters for one.

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