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    i don't know if this is new thread worthy, but as i mentioned in another wells commented on a deal involving rush for george hill. he basically says the spurs were for it but bird wasn't ready to give up on rush. i think he wanted see what he had on draft day and based on the picks rush is out the door. wells has a starks moment with, "they would have did dat deal."

    starts at 4:50 on the mike wells portion of dakich show

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    hmm it is a little depressing to give up on rush so soon especially because we know what he can potentially be capable of. guys think he'd break out of his passive mentality on the spurs? or perhaps become a pure defensive specialist.

    interesting...

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    I didn't think they would do a straight up deal like that.
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    we still do...

    Then get a coach that teaches team ball movement/ pick and rolls and screens.... having the 3 guys that can create shots would be nice aling with the post presence of Hibbert.
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    I don't see George Hill as the playmaker we need. I like him as a player a lot. But more as a third guard

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    i don't know if this is new thread worthy, but as i mentioned in another wells commented on a deal involving rush for george hill. he basically says the spurs were for it but bird wasn't ready to give up on rush. i think he wanted see what he had on draft day and based on the picks rush is out the door. wells has a starks moment with, "they would have did dat deal."

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    Do it Bird. Give them Ford while you're at it.

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    Lets go! Make it happen!

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    I don't see George Hill as the playmaker we need. I like him as a player a lot. But more as a third guard
    I totally agree with you there UB. IMO, its still a upgrade over Ford/Watson. I also think if Hill doesn't work out as a starter then he is easier to trade than Rush.

    Personally I would like Maynor over him if we are just looking for a average pg with some upside.

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    Hill is at least a talent upgrade over Brandon I think. You gotta make this deal if you're the Pacers.

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    i like rush, but i think he's just getting closer and closer to ron mercer land. moves and looks like a great player, but doesn't finish. he and his brother might share the same heart.

    and no matter what i think of hill as a PG, do i think that rush will ever be a better overall player than hill? i don't think so.

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    Wells is an idiot.

    There are currently 6 wing players and 7 bigs on our roster, yet he talks about stupid things like Granger playing C.

    Yes, our roster is unbalanced, but when you consider the fact that Granger will play some PF (like it or not) it's far more unbalanced with bigs than wing players.

    I'll be sad to see Rush go, but I'm resigned to the fact that we'll probably have to move him for a PG.
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    I totally agree with you there UB. IMO, its still a upgrade over Ford/Watson. I also think if Hill doesn't work out as a starter then he is easier to trade than Rush.

    Personally I would like Maynor over him if we are just looking for a average pg with some upside.
    I agree... absolutely better than what we have now.

    I rather have a better play maker PG... but what young playmaking PG is available?

    Anyway with the way are team is structured I think Hill is a better fit than Rush now... and if we do finder a better PG, then we have a great back up PG...
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    I may be the only one, but I kinda like the 3 man wing lineup of Rush, Granger, and George. Great size, length, and mobility. I do like George Hill though, and I'd be for getting him. He's definitely a combo guard, but it'd be GREAT if he could be a full time PG because I love the size and athleticism he'd bring there. I'd love to have him vs. Rose, Rondo, Westbrook etc.

    I do think Rush is going to be our one trade chip that we'll be willing to move, just wonder what other possible "true PGs" will be out there. Because you know that JOB will want to play a PG/Hill/George/Granger/Hibbert more than a Hill/George/Granger/Hansbrough/Hibbert lineup. Personally I prefer the latter. Tremendous length/athleticism on the perimeter. And it'd be nice to have another guy that WANTS to be here in Hill.

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    Wells is an idiot.
    I agree he is an idiot... and thankful he doesn't make any basketball decisions... but however he does seem to have sources. (now like all media can't fully believe them, but hey can at least give you some hope)
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    Default Re: george hill available for brandon rush

    Do you guys think that Hill is a better player/fit with this team than Collison? If both were on the table, who would you rather have?

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    I'm kind of torn
    I guess I'm not as quick as some fellow posters to turn on Rush- I'm still intrigued by his defensive prowess and potential
    I know for sure I'd be irritated if Rush starts doing what we expected to do here in SA
    At the same time, even though George Hill wasn't on the top of my list (and I admit, I don't know too much about him) that it would be nice to have a competent pg.

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    Why not keep Rush and our young talent and address the PG position through other means (ie FA or trading a veteran)?

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    Nice, they mentioned Pacers Digest on 1070... along with Hicks, UB, and some of the other members. Nice job guys, I hope you enjoyed yourself there! I think we got a great pick!
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    Do you guys think that Hill is a better player/fit with this team than Collison? If both were on the table, who would you rather have?
    I think either could "fit." Collison is a lightning fast, but undersized PG. From the things I've read he really improved offensively during the season, but gets abused on D. He weighs about the same as TJ Ford for a frame of reference. My concern with him is his ability to stay healthy (even though he hasn't yet had injuries) long term due to his size. Undersized PGs just make me nervous.

    Hill is more of a combo guard than a PG, even SA fans will tell you that. More of a "scorer" than a "creator" if you will. But I think he could competently run the PG spot. The upside is his length and athleticism. I think he'd be a tremendous defender on 1s and 2s (SA has even used him on players like Kobe with success). So defensively I think we'd be better off with Hill.

    If George and Granger can create their own looks, I think we'd be better with Hill because he could at least get the ball to them, and we could drastically improve our D. If George and Granger struggle to score efficiently creating their own looks, then I think Collison is the better fit, at least offensively. But in general, scoring hasn't been a major issue. Our defense has. So I'd prefer George Hill I think.

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    i guess after 2 years i think i see a difference between what is and what may be with these two.

    hill is a major contributor on a playoff team and may be a main facilitator on a contender.

    rush is a player who is inconsistent and sometimes lost on a losing team and may be a rotation guy for a contender.

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    Can't say I'm all that thrilled at the idea of Hill, but he's a better point guard than anyone we have now.

    I'd still wait and see if we can explore the Collison trade again. Only downside is taking back Okafor's contract.

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    Is this supposed to be a new trade possibility or a left-over from yesterday?
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    I think either could "fit." Collison is a lightning fast, but undersized PG. From the things I've read he really improved offensively during the season, but gets abused on D. He weighs about the same as TJ Ford for a frame of reference. My concern with him is his ability to stay healthy (even though he hasn't yet had injuries) long term due to his size. Undersized PGs just make me nervous.

    Hill is more of a combo guard than a PG, even SA fans will tell you that. More of a "scorer" than a "creator" if you will. But I think he could competently run the PG spot. The upside is his length and athleticism. I think he'd be a tremendous defender on 1s and 2s (SA has even used him on players like Kobe with success). So defensively I think we'd be better off with Hill.

    If George and Granger can create their own looks, I think we'd be better with Hill because he could at least get the ball to them, and we could drastically improve our D. If George and Granger struggle to score efficiently creating their own looks, then I think Collison is the better fit, at least offensively. But in general, scoring hasn't been a major issue. Our defense has. So I'd prefer George Hill I think.
    Thats the problem ESutt, Granger and George have a hard time creating their own looks. I would prefer Collision if we could get him without a huge contract attached. Maybe Posey for Rush and expirings would be enough.

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    I think either could "fit." Collison is a lightning fast, but undersized PG. From the things I've read he really improved offensively during the season, but gets abused on D. He weighs about the same as TJ Ford for a frame of reference. My concern with him is his ability to stay healthy (even though he hasn't yet had injuries) long term due to his size. Undersized PGs just make me nervous.

    Hill is more of a combo guard than a PG, even SA fans will tell you that. More of a "scorer" than a "creator" if you will. But I think he could competently run the PG spot. The upside is his length and athleticism. I think he'd be a tremendous defender on 1s and 2s (SA has even used him on players like Kobe with success). So defensively I think we'd be better off with Hill.

    If George and Granger can create their own looks, I think we'd be better with Hill because he could at least get the ball to them, and we could drastically improve our D. If George and Granger struggle to score efficiently creating their own looks, then I think Collison is the better fit, at least offensively. But in general, scoring hasn't been a major issue. Our defense has. So I'd prefer George Hill I think.
    Also we could really utilize Hibbert's passing skills with Hill/George/Granger slashing to the basket...

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