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    http://www.indystar.com/article/2010...en-competition

    Pacers draft choice Paul George faces keen competition

    by Mike Wells

    Indiana Pacers rookie forward Paul George knows he's playing a position that's the deepest on the roster.

    That's fine with him, he's ready for the challenge.

    "It's competition," George said during his introductory press conference at Conseco Fieldhouse today. "I knew what to expect coming in. No job is given. You've got to compete for it. I think that will make all of us better. Whatever lineup that we have you'll know that person well-deserved it and he'll be that much better because of the hard work we put in for that position. I'm ready for the challenge."

    George, the No. 10 pick in Thursday's draft, joins a wing group that includes Danny Granger, Mike Dunleavy, Dahntay Jones, Brandon Rush and Lance Stephenson.

    "The plan is to get a lot of good players, as many as you can and it'll become very clear who should be on the court, what combination of players should be on the court," Pacers coach Jim O'Brien said. "One of the things that Larry tried to establish here over the last couple of years and I think we're well on the way to establishing it, is to change the culture of players here."
    George, who left Fresno State after two years, averaged 16.8 points and 7.2 rebounds last season.

    "I feel like I can contribute right away, especially I want to come here early and work and make sure I'm ready for when that time does come," he said. "I really, truly believe that in this system and with these people around me that I can fully maximize my potential."


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    Maybe Brandon needs to take a page out of this book.

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    I bet he starts over Rush by the end of the season.

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    Default Re: Paul George on the competition at wing

    I'm actually really excited by the prospect of a Rush/George/Granger trio.
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    I'm actually really excited by the prospect of a Rush/George/Granger trio.
    Agreed. That'll be a nice rotation. Maybe George is good enough to start in a year, maybe not. But having three solid wing players will be great.

    I don't understand the "Brandon needs to take a page out of his book" comments (in this thread and others). I don't remember Brandon ever saying he didn't want competition.
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    I bet he starts over Rush by the end of the season.
    I bet Rush isn't a Pacer by the end of the season.

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    Assuming Rush is still on the roster, that isn't a bad combo.

    But I'm anticipating seeing rush traded here this offseason, and we see George starting at the 2 next to Granger.

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    I'm actually really excited by the prospect of a Rush/George/Granger trio.
    Same here. I hope they keep Rush.

    Back in the day Al Harrington actually had a pretty sweet deal playing starter minutes behind All-Star forwards Jermaine O'Neal and Ron Artest, but he didn't realize what he had until it was gone. Or perhaps I should say until he was gone.

    If Paul George can back up both Rush and Granger at SG and SF in a similar manner (actually, I hope he does it in a more impressive manner and without the whining of Harrington), I think we would be in great shape at the wing positions. Things look really good at SF, SG, and C, although we could use a bit of depth behind Hibbert. We will still need a couple of pieces at PG and PF before we can go very far, but I like the players we have. If Price and Hansbrough both make a recovery, I think they will do a decent job until we get starting caliber players in those positions. Maybe Indiana can flip some of this expirings into a good player for one of those positions. I really don't want to give away our best young players, including Rush, especially if we get a decent coach after this year. I think Rush and Hibbert in particular would benefit from a different style of play.

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    I bet he starts over Rush by the end of the preseason.
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    I'm not as gung ho about trading Rush as some of you are.

    I do this he's somewhat of a malcontent, I don't think he likes Indy, I don't think he likes our front office, and most importantly I don't think he likes playing for the Pacers at all right now. But the fact is outside of Granger he is probably the best wing on our roster as we speak.

    You only trade Rush at this point if you're pretty certain George will be able to start his first year (which I doubt) and that Dunleavy can be a primary backup wing with Stephenson being good enough to get minimal time in the rotation and relieve Dunleavy when needed. If Dunleavy is still a shell of his former self and Stephenson and George are as raw as some expect, we have no one but Rush to lean on right now.

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    I'm not as gung ho about trading Rush as some of you are.

    I do this he's somewhat of a malcontent, I don't think he likes Indy, I don't think he likes our front office, and most importantly I don't think he likes playing for the Pacers at all right now. But the fact is outside of Granger he is probably the best wing on our roster as we speak.

    You only trade Rush at this point if you're pretty certain George will be able to start his first year (which I doubt) and that Dunleavy can be a primary backup wing with Stephenson being good enough to get minimal time in the rotation and relieve Dunleavy when needed. If Dunleavy is still a shell of his former self and Stephenson and George are as raw as some expect, we have no one but Rush to lean on right now.
    I can't disagree with this, but what about Dahntay?

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    If Brandon is traded, I can see us starting Mike at SG and not immediately throw the starting pressure on Paul right away.

    SG Dunleavy/Stephenson
    SF Granger/George/DJones

    By doing this, it'll allow Paul to learn from Danny as his backup for a few months and then possibly switch places with Mike once he feels he's ready to take over the starting SG spot.

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    Brandon Rush on the competition at the wing:


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    Brandon Rush on the competition at the wing:

    Dahntay might be a baby screaming and crying.

    He has to compete at the wing for another 3 seasons.

    In JOB's eyes, there is no competition, he'll bench Dahntay for shooters.

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    In JOB's eyes, there is no competition, he'll bench Dahntay for shooters.
    Which is a shame.



    Side note, I actually like Dahntay's mid-range game. I think I've said on here before, I hate that I heard him say he's going to work on his 3-point shot this summer. I'd rather him spend the summer honing in on his mid-range jumper and get it down to where it's almost 2003-2004 Rip Hamilton-esque (or something at least close to it).

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    I like that Danny and Paul have been working out together. You know Danny must have given a good report on Paul and liked what he brought to the team. I expect them to compliment each others play...

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    Brandon Rush on the competition at the wing:

    That's a cheap shot.
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    This could actually be the best thing for rush. He has not been pushed by anyone to keep his spot it was just kind of his because we had no one else.

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    This could actually be the best thing for rush. He has not been pushed by anyone to keep his spot it was just kind of his because we had no one else.
    Most players are motivated because they want to win. If he's only motivated enough to just try to keep his job, then good riddance.

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    Rush seems to be motivated only in March and April. He needs to put a whole year together a some point. I would be glade to let some other team to try and motivate him.

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    Paul George was second-team All-WAC last season. He averaged 16.8 points and shot 42.4 percent from the field, including 35.3 percent on 3s. He put together those rather modest numbers on a 15-18 squad that didn't play in one of the strongest college conferences.

    George may have a great future ahead, but he doesn't sound to me like somebody who'll be ready to be a starter in the NBA next season.

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    Paul George was second-team All-WAC last season. He averaged 16.8 points and shot 42.4 percent from the field, including 35.3 percent on 3s. He put together those rather modest numbers on a 15-18 squad that didn't play in one of the strongest college conferences.

    George may have a great future ahead, but he doesn't sound to me like somebody who'll be ready to be a starter in the NBA next season.
    I agree that he probably isn't ready to be a full time starter right away, but I think you should also consider that some of the people he played with there were reported to be pretty poor teammates. I don't think you should judge him to harshly with those stats. We was very unhappy in his situation and tried to make the best of it, but he said that was one of the main reasons for leaving school when he did.

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    Paul George was second-team All-WAC last season. He averaged 16.8 points and shot 42.4 percent from the field, including 35.3 percent on 3s. He put together those rather modest numbers on a 15-18 squad that didn't play in one of the strongest college conferences.

    George may have a great future ahead, but he doesn't sound to me like somebody who'll be ready to be a starter in the NBA next season.
    Kobe wasn't NBA ready either.

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    Paul George was second-team All-WAC last season. He averaged 16.8 points and shot 42.4 percent from the field, including 35.3 percent on 3s. He put together those rather modest numbers on a 15-18 squad that didn't play in one of the strongest college conferences.

    George may have a great future ahead, but he doesn't sound to me like somebody who'll be ready to be a starter in the NBA next season.

    From what I've read, he was the best player by far on a team that PLAYED walk ons. The team was left in pieces after the previous coach left a mess ala Calipari.
    Read a couple of things that said he was often doubled and even triple teamed. VERY little help.
    Probably not fair to compare his statistics given that scenerio.

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    Kobe wasn't NBA ready either.

    Year Team GP GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% RPG APG SPG BPG PPG
    199697 L.A. Lakers 71 6 15.5 .417 .375 .819 1.9 1.3 .7 .3 7.6
    199798 L.A. Lakers 79 1 26.0 .428 .341 .794 3.1 2.5 .9 .5 15.4


    I don't know... 7.6 pts in 15.5 minutes? I'd say that's pretty close.

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    Year Team GP GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% RPG APG SPG BPG PPG
    1996–97 L.A. Lakers 71 6 15.5 .417 .375 .819 1.9 1.3 .7 .3 7.6
    1997–98 L.A. Lakers 79 1 26.0 .428 .341 .794 3.1 2.5 .9 .5 15.4


    I don't know... 7.6 pts in 15.5 minutes? I'd say that's pretty close.
    Numbers are deceiving. Kobe took bad shots and he really wasn't ready for the big stage. Those air balls he shot against Utah in the playoffs proved that.


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