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    If Missouri and Rutgers come aboard as has been reported that would balance it out more, but the East looks like the Big 12 South does now. If the teams are good enough they will get in big games.

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    Does it have to be east....west? How's a North ... South division work.
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    North South doesn't make sense to me. The split at the Ind/Ill border looks natural especially if a Big East team + Nebraska are added.

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    It will certainly be interesting in how they divide it. Michigan being down right now could help or worsen things for the division of the Big Ten. I mean if you put OSU, PSU and Michigan in the same division, only PSU and OSU have been good the past few years. Iowa has been very good recently and look to keep doing the same, Nebraska is back on the upswing as well. If Nebraska continues to get back to the level they are known for and Michigan stays down the conferences could be pretty balanced. More so than the current Big 12 at least.

    But when Michigan returns to the level they are known for it could change things. That would be three power teams in one division. Wisconsin would need to be a consistent threat then too which is possible. It does look like the Indiana/Illinois border would be the best split.

    No matter what happens people won't be happy, but in the long run I think it will be better for the Big Ten. Playing at the end of the season will help keep them in the spot light. Remember they went 4-0 with their top teams in the bowl games, 3-0 in the top ten. Adding programs like Nebraska, Missouri, and a Pitt/Cuse/Rutgers will only strengthen things.

    Of Pitt/Cuse/Rutgers I want Pitt. Finally gives PSU a rival. Whoever comes from those three will be our new rival most likely. I think the Big Ten really wants Rutgers for the NY market though.

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    Couldn't you break it up randomly in theory?

    I don't know east-west is easiest. I'm just wondering what happens if Michigan returns to being a top program in football, which I guess at some point they probably will.
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    As long as they don't put the Colts in the AFC South and put Miami with 3 New England teams, I'm happy.

    Seriously, I think no matter what Michigan and Ohio State will be in the same division, so they can preserve the last weekend game between the two. If UM returns to prominence, that game takes added importance because the winner may very well get the bid.
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    Don't you think the whole bowl system will be realligned when the changes are made? How will those Big 12 spots be split? Down here we now have Pac 10 v. Big 12. in the Alamo Bowl. I would imagine the Big 10 will get back in the mix. The BCS will be redrawn as well I would think.

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    Don't you think the whole bowl system will be realligned when the changes are made? How will those Big 12 spots be split? Down here we now have Pac 10 v. Big 12. in the Alamo Bowl. I would imagine the Big 10 will get back in the mix. The BCS will be redrawn as well I would think.
    Yeah, I saw Herbstreit on ESPN talking about these issues. He also projected a little cautious optimism that, since everything's going to change anyway, now might be the time for the BCS to implement a true playoff system.
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    I read, sorry no link because i don't remember where, that this hurts the chances of a playoff since the true power is now consolidated into even fewer groups. Why should 4 conferences give anyone else a real chance?

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    That's certainly a possibility. ESPN.com has an interview with Roy Kramer where he says this absolutely will not result in a playoff, and if anybody would know, it would be him.

    I'm just hoping that some good will come from this. Kramer did say that commisioners are worried about being seen as the bad guy, and maybe if there is enough backlash over the disolution of the Big 12 and, quite possibly, the Big East as well, TPTB will attempt to placate fans when it comes to reorganizing the postseason.

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    That would be nice, but i have my doubts. Money is talking here. To be honest though, If football has to be screwed up to prop up the rest of the sports then maybe it needs to be this way. Of course, there may have to be a super division one for the rich schools and one for the left overs.

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    Ok, so USC's players can now transfer without sitting out a year. (juniors and seniors)

    http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angele...ory?id=5275644

    Any team can contact these players.

    I'm sorry, but if I'm Texas I now want to go to the Big Ten which is interested in them.

    USC is done for the next 5-10 years as a major college power IMO.

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    A lot of people in this area are pretty convinced that Maryland is going to end up in the Big Ten. I can't quite tell if this is unfounded panic or if it's remotely realistic. I guess when the conference added Penn State it toyed with adding both Maryland and Texas (along with other schools --- I really didn't know/remember this as I was 6 when the Big Ten last expanded). Maryland is a member of the AAU so academically it would work and I suppose Maryland wouldn't stand out more than Boston College in the ACC or South Florida in the Big East.

    I don't know.

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    The last time I read about Maryland possibly being added is way back when this first started their name was tossed out, mainly due to the strength of their bball program (a plus, but in the grand scheme of conference expansion, irrelevant. Football is king). I haven't heard them brought up since.

    Nothing against Maryland, but I'd be kind of disappointed if we added them over a Pitt. Pitt is a much more natural fit and is on par or above Maryland athletically.

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    Boise State moves to the Mountain West...

    http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=5276064

    How long til they officially become a BCS conference? They're already better than the Big East and if the Big 12 gets pillaged they're better than them as well. Might be on par with the ACC in terms of football as well.

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    I think that opens it up for Kansas/Kansas St to go to the MWC now too.

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    Kansas is gonna win 35 games a year in basketball if they play in the MWC.

    I just can't believe the Big 12 leadership is this bad. Athletically,they might be the BEST all around conference. Dominant football, basketball, soccer teams, you name it. And yet here they are just getting destroyed. Zero business sense apparently among their leadership.

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    I agree. But it's pretty much all about football. I don't think they'd have a problem getting to the tourney every year so it doesn't really make that much of a difference. They're still Kansas.

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    Boise knows something everyone else doesn't. They know already that the Mountain West is just waiting on the Big 12 to self destruct. I would bet anything that the Big 12 guys were trying to get Boise to come in and replace Nebraska and Boise just gave them the big FU. The Big 12 is done. Now the Mountain West has Utah, TCU, AND Boise and will likely pick up KState and KU. Two of those schools will now get BCS bids EVERY year while the rest of what's left of the Big 12 is going to have to be split among the WAC and whatever other conference will take them. My lord, I used to think the Pacers were ran by morons but they are Norman Eienstein's compared to the Big 12 guys.

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    So after all the hub bub, the Pac 10 migration is a no go? Besides Colorado, of course.

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    Big 10 becomes the the big 12 and the big 12 becomes the big 10? Strange...

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    Yes it is.

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    Also does colorado regret leaving the big 12 now? Would they rather have stayed if they knew it wasn't going to disintegrate?

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    I think they are happier with the closer rivalries and the ability to beat teams weaker than what they were against in the Big 12.

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    I agree. The Pac 10 is a much better fit for Colorado.
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