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Now, does the above cover absolutely every single kind of distraction that is unwanted? Probably not, but you should by now have a good idea of the general types of things we will be discouraging. The above examples are meant to give you a good feel for / idea of what we're looking for. If something new or different than the above happens to come along and results in the same problem (that being, any other attitude or behavior that ultimately distracts from actually just discussing the topic at hand, or that is otherwise disrespectful to other posters), we can and we will take action to curb this as well, so please don't take this to mean that if you managed to technically avoid saying something exactly like one of the above examples that you are then somehow off the hook.

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If this is done the wrong way, those comments will be deleted, and if it's a repeating problem then it may also receive an infraction as well.

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Regarding infractions, currently they carry a value of one point each, and that point will expire in 31 days. If at any point a poster is carrying three points at the same time, that poster will be suspended until the oldest of the three points expires.

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The legal means of watching or listening to NBA games are NBA League Pass Broadband (for US, or for International; both cost money) and NBA Audio League Pass (which is free). Look for them on NBA.com.

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It may or may not go without saying, but this goes for threads and posts as well, particularly when it's not made on the off-topic board (Market Square).

We do make exceptions if we feel the content is both innocuous and unlikely to cause social problems on the forum (such as wishing someone a Merry Christmas or a Happy Easter), and we also also make exceptions if such topics come up with regards to a sports figure (such as the Lance Stephenson situation bringing up discussions of domestic abuse and the law, or when Jason Collins came out as gay and how that lead to some discussion about gay rights).

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We prefer self-restraint and/or modesty when making jokes or off topic comments in a sports discussion thread. They can be fun, but sometimes they derail or distract from a topic, and we don't want to see that happen. If we feel it is a problem, we will either delete or move those posts from the thread.

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  • Re: Drafting Game

    Originally posted by Jose
    When do the finals start?

    I'm sure I'm gonna have to tweek my lineup some.
    Finals start today at 4:30p & 7p. We'll take this 2 games at a time
    ...Still "flying casual"
    @roaminggnome74

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    • Re: Drafting Game

      Originally posted by LouisvilleLip
      Well atleast I knocked off the number seed.
      :P

      "Just look at the flowers ........ BANG" - Carol "The Walking Dead"

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      • Re: Drafting Game

        ILoveThePacers and Jose Slaughter finished with an equal record during pool play so I decided to break the tie by using their pool play record vs. play-off teams.

        Jose Vs Magic Rat-----------------1-1
        Jose Vs Roaming Gnome---------2-0
        Jose Vs. Rim Bender--------------1-1
        Jose Vs. Play-off teams (A)-------4-2

        ILPacers Vs Lip--------------------2-0
        ILPacers Vs Hoop------------------1-1
        ILPacers Vs SkipperZ--------------2-0
        ILPacers Vs Play-off teams (B)----5-1

        ILPacers had the better record against the play-off teams in his pool, so he is awarded the homecourt.
        ...Still "flying casual"
        @roaminggnome74

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          *****PLAYER OF THE GAME---ZELMO BEATY*****




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          2002-03 Jose Slaughter at 2002-03 ILovethePacers
          9/7/2004 5:55:00 PM

























          Final 1st 2nd 3rd 4th Total
          2002-03 Jose Slaughter 24272720 98
          2002-03 ILovethePacers 26162420 86






















































































































































































































































































































































































          VISITING TEAM: 2002-03 Jose Slaughter
          PLAYER MIN FGM/FGA 3PT
          FGM/FGA
          FTM/FTA REB AST BLK STL TO PF TP
          Tracy McGrady 48 10/27 5/9 4/8 4 3 0 2 2 2 29
          Anthony Mason 48 4/8 0/0 6/6 12 3 1 0 4 3 14
          Otis Thorpe 40 4/10 0/0 1/2 4 4 0 1 0 6 9
          Magic Johnson 38 4/7 0/2 0/0 5 11 0 1 4 4 8
          Zelmo Beaty 37 12/17 0/0 4/4 13 3 1 1 2 4 28
          Mel Daniels 11 2/3 0/0 0/0 6 0 1 0 0 2 4
          Mark Price 10 1/3 1/1 0/0 0 2 0 1 1 1 3
          Rick Barry 4 1/2 0/0 0/0 2 1 0 0 0 1 2
          Kiki Vandeweghe 4 0/1 0/0 1/2 0 0 0 2 0 0 1
          TOTALS 240 38/78 6/12 16/22 46 27 3 8 13 23 98
              48.7% 50.0% 72.7%              
           
          HOME TEAM: 2002-03 ILovethePacers
          PLAYER MIN FGM/FGA 3PT
          FGM/FGA
          FTM/FTA REB AST BLK STL TO PF TP
          Michael Jordan 47 5/14 0/1 7/8 6 4 0 0 4 5 17
          Maurice Cheeks 47 6/10 0/0 5/6 2 5 0 4 2 0 17
          Adrian Dantley 46 5/11 0/0 4/4 4 6 0 4 2 5 14
          Jeff Ruland 37 4/8 0/1 3/3 5 5 1 1 1 3 11
          Artis Gilmore 32 4/8 0/0 5/8 9 0 2 0 4 2 13
          Elton Brand 14 1/3 0/0 2/2 2 1 1 0 2 2 4
          Rudy Tomjanovich 10 3/5 1/2 0/0 2 1 0 0 0 0 7
          Detlef Schrempf 6 1/2 0/0 1/2 1 0 0 0 0 0 3
          David Thompson 1 0/1 0/1 0/0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0
          TOTALS 240 29/62 1/5 27/33 32 22 4 9 15 17 86
              46.8% 20.0% 81.8%              

























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          ...Still "flying casual"
          @roaminggnome74

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            *****PLAYER OF THE GAME---JEFF RULAND*****




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            2002-03 Jose Slaughter at 2002-03 ILovethePacers
            9/7/2004 5:56:00 PM

























            Final 1st 2nd 3rd 4th Total
            2002-03 Jose Slaughter 32162221 91
            2002-03 ILovethePacers 28242626 104
























































































































































































































































































































































            VISITING TEAM: 2002-03 Jose Slaughter
            PLAYER MIN FGM/FGA 3PT
            FGM/FGA
            FTM/FTA REB AST BLK STL TO PF TP
            Magic Johnson 48 10/12 1/1 6/6 5 7 1 1 5 2 27
            Otis Thorpe 48 3/4 0/0 0/0 4 5 0 4 2 4 6
            Anthony Mason 47 8/13 0/0 0/0 5 3 0 3 2 3 16
            Zelmo Beaty 47 9/15 0/0 3/4 11 3 0 2 4 5 21
            Tracy McGrady 34 5/14 2/3 3/8 1 5 0 0 2 5 15
            Drazen Petrovic 14 2/6 0/0 2/2 0 3 0 1 1 1 6
            Rick Barry 1 0/1 0/0 0/0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
            Mel Daniels 1 0/0 0/0 0/0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0
            TOTALS 240 37/65 3/4 14/20 27 26 1 11 16 20 91
                56.9% 75.0% 70.0%              
             
            HOME TEAM: 2002-03 ILovethePacers
            PLAYER MIN FGM/FGA 3PT
            FGM/FGA
            FTM/FTA REB AST BLK STL TO PF TP
            Adrian Dantley 48 12/15 0/0 5/6 1 4 0 1 5 1 29
            Artis Gilmore 48 6/10 0/0 2/6 12 0 1 1 4 1 14
            Jeff Ruland 47 12/15 0/0 2/2 11 4 0 2 3 3 26
            Michael Jordan 42 8/17 0/0 7/9 2 4 0 1 1 6 23
            Maurice Cheeks 40 2/4 1/1 2/2 1 9 0 2 1 3 7
            Norm Nixon 8 0/0 0/0 0/0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0
            David Thompson 6 1/2 1/2 2/2 2 0 0 1 0 1 5
            Elton Brand 1 0/0 0/0 0/0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
            TOTALS 240 41/63 2/3 20/27 29 21 1 9 14 15 104
                65.1% 66.7% 74.1%              

























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            *******************************SERIES TIED 1-1 NEXT GAME 7PM******************************
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            ...Still "flying casual"
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              *****PLAYER OF THE GAME---T-MAC*****





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              2002-03 ILovethePacers at 2002-03 Jose Slaughter
              9/7/2004 8:17:00 PM

























              Final 1st 2nd 3rd 4th Total
              2002-03 ILovethePacers 33242437 118
              2002-03 Jose Slaughter 37203726 120







































































































































































































































































































































































              VISITING TEAM: 2002-03 ILovethePacers
              PLAYER MIN FGM/FGA 3PT
              FGM/FGA
              FTM/FTA REB AST BLK STL TO PF TP
              Maurice Cheeks 48 11/14 2/3 4/4 2 7 0 2 1 4 28
              Jeff Ruland 48 3/10 0/0 7/8 13 6 0 2 3 4 13
              Michael Jordan 46 9/19 1/2 13/14 3 8 1 0 0 5 32
              Adrian Dantley 43 8/14 0/0 7/8 2 2 0 0 1 5 23
              Artis Gilmore 34 6/13 0/0 2/2 8 4 1 1 0 4 14
              Elton Brand 14 2/2 0/0 2/2 4 1 0 1 0 2 6
              Detlef Schrempf 4 0/0 0/0 0/0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0
              David Thompson 2 1/1 0/0 0/0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2
              Rudy Tomjanovich 1 0/0 0/0 0/0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0
              TOTALS 240 40/73 3/5 35/38 33 30 2 6 5 24 118
                  54.8% 60.0% 92.1%              
               
              HOME TEAM: 2002-03 Jose Slaughter
              PLAYER MIN FGM/FGA 3PT
              FGM/FGA
              FTM/FTA REB AST BLK STL TO PF TP
              Magic Johnson 48 8/12 0/1 4/4 7 15 1 1 4 1 20
              Otis Thorpe 48 6/11 0/0 4/10 8 3 0 0 2 3 16
              Zelmo Beaty 48 10/18 0/1 4/6 11 2 1 2 2 3 24
              Tracy McGrady 45 12/26 5/8 4/4 11 8 0 0 0 6 33
              Anthony Mason 30 5/5 0/0 2/5 4 5 0 0 1 6 12
              Kiki Vandeweghe 11 2/4 0/0 3/4 0 0 0 0 0 1 7
              Rick Barry 7 3/4 0/0 2/2 4 0 0 1 1 0 8
              Drazen Petrovic 3 0/0 0/0 0/0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0
              TOTALS 240 46/80 5/10 23/35 45 33 2 4 10 22 120
                  57.5% 50.0% 65.7%              

























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               4 T H   Q U A R T E R
              12:0081 - 94
              Thorpe misses the short jumper. Gilmore grabs the rebound11:4881 - 94
              Cheeks sinks the short jumper. 11:3483 - 94
              McGrady nails a 3 from the corner. 11:1583 - 97
              Gilmore scores. 10:5685 - 97
              Beaty misses the short jumper. Thorpe comes down with the offensive rebound10:4585 - 97
              McGrady misses from the baseline. Ruland grabs the rebound10:3585 - 97
              Thompson lays it in. 10:2187 - 97
              Barry is fouled while shooting. Foul #4 on Adrian Dantley, team foul #1. Barry makes the first FT and makes the second.
              2002-03 Jose Slaughter: IN: Anthony Mason -- OUT: Rick Barry.
              2002-03 ILovethePacers: IN: Michael Jordan -- OUT: David Thompson.
              10:0587 - 99
              2002-03 ILovethePacers: [PG] M. Cheeks, [SG] M. Jordan, [SF] A. Dantley, [PF] A. Gilmore, [C] J. Ruland
              2002-03 Jose Slaughter: [PG] M. Johnson, [SG] T. McGrady, [SF] A. Mason, [PF] O. Thorpe, [C] Z. Beaty
              Ruland's shot is blocked by Johnson. Johnson snags the board9:5087 - 99
              McGrady misses long. Gilmore clears the rebound9:2787 - 99
              Dantley misses. Beaty snags the board9:1487 - 99
              Beaty misses the layup. Ruland grabs the rebound8:5487 - 99
              Gilmore misses from the baseline. Ruland grabs the offensive rebound8:4487 - 99
              Ruland steps out of bounds. 8:4187 - 99
              Thorpe misses from the top of the key. Thorpe grabs the offensive rebound8:2887 - 99
              Thorpe's shot is rejected by Gilmore. Jordan clears the rebound8:2587 - 99
              Jordan is fouled while shooting. Foul #3 on Tracy McGrady, team foul #1. Jordan makes the first FT and makes the second. 8:0889 - 99
              Johnson is fouled by Maurice Cheeks on the floor. Foul #2 on Cheeks, team foul #2. 7:5189 - 99
              Ruland comes up with a steal. 7:3689 - 99
              Jordan is fouled while shooting. Foul #4 on Tracy McGrady, team foul #2. Jordan makes the first FT and misses the second. McGrady grabs the rebound7:2090 - 99
              McGrady nails a 3 from the corner. 6:5890 - 102
              Gilmore misses the short jumper. Johnson snags the board6:4890 - 102
              Mason scores. 6:3790 - 104
              Jordan is fouled while shooting. Foul #5 on Tracy McGrady, team foul #3. Jordan makes the first FT and makes the second. 6:1892 - 104
              Thorpe sinks the short jumper. 6:0492 - 106
              Johnson comes up with a steal. 5:5592 - 106
              Johnson misses long. Cheeks clears the rebound5:4292 - 106
              Cheeks is fouled while shooting. Foul #2 on Otis Thorpe, team foul #4. Cheeks makes the first FT and makes the second. 5:2694 - 106
              Johnson misses a 3 from the wing. Ruland grabs the rebound5:1394 - 106
              Gilmore sinks the short jumper. 5:0396 - 106
              Thorpe misses off the glass. Gilmore clears the rebound4:5296 - 106
              Beaty comes up with a steal. 4:3996 - 106
              Mason hits from the baseline. 4:1996 - 108
              Dantley sinks the short jumper. 4:0098 - 108
              Johnson is fouled by Maurice Cheeks on the floor. Foul #3 on Cheeks, team foul #3. 3:4098 - 108
              Beaty hits from the baseline. 3:2998 - 110
              Gilmore is fouled while shooting. Foul #3 on Otis Thorpe, team foul #5. Gilmore makes the first FT and makes the second. 3:18100 - 110
              Thorpe scores. 3:06100 - 112
              Jordan is fouled by Tracy McGrady on the floor. Foul #6 on McGrady, team foul #6.
              2002-03 Jose Slaughter: Tracy McGrady is replaced by Drazen Petrovic. Jordan makes the first FT and makes the second.
              2:57102 - 112
              Mason is fouled while shooting. Foul #5 on Michael Jordan, team foul #4. Mason misses the first FT and misses the second. Ruland snags the board2:34102 - 112
              Ruland is fouled while shooting. Foul #3 on Zelmo Beaty, team foul #7. Ruland makes the first FT and makes the second. 2:28104 - 112
              Mason is fouled while shooting. Foul #5 on Adrian Dantley, team foul #5. Mason makes the first FT and makes the second. 2:04104 - 114
              Dantley is fouled by Anthony Mason on the floor. Foul #6 on Mason, team foul #8.
              2002-03 Jose Slaughter: Anthony Mason is replaced by Rick Barry. Dantley makes the first FT and makes the second.
              1:57106 - 114
              Johnson is fouled by Maurice Cheeks on the floor. Foul #4 on Cheeks, team foul #6. Johnson makes the first FT and makes the second. 1:55106 - 116
              Jordan is fouled by Drazen Petrovic on the floor. Foul #1 on Petrovic, team foul #9. Jordan makes the first FT and makes the second. 1:49108 - 116
              Cheeks comes up with a steal. 1:46108 - 116
              Jordan hits a 3. 1:34111 - 116
              Gilmore comes up with a steal. 1:18111 - 116
              Jordan is fouled while shooting. Foul #2 on Drazen Petrovic, team foul #10. Jordan makes the first FT and makes the second. 1:05113 - 116
              Barry misses short. Gilmore clears the rebound0:52113 - 116
              Gilmore hits the mid-range jumper. 0:35115 - 116
              Thorpe is fouled while shooting. Foul #4 on Artis Gilmore, team foul #7. Thorpe makes the first FT and misses the second. Gilmore snags the board0:17115 - 117
              Barry comes up with a steal. 0:13115 - 117
              Beaty is fouled by Jeff Ruland on the floor. Foul #4 on Ruland, team foul #8. Beaty makes the first FT and misses the second. Dantley grabs the rebound0:10115 - 118
              Cheeks hits a 3.
              2002-03 Jose Slaughter call timeout. The ball is inbounded at half-court.
              0:02118 - 118
              Barry banks it in off the glass. 0:00118 - 120
              4 T H   Q U A R T E R - 2002-03 ILovethePacers: 118 2002-03 Jose Slaughter: 120










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                *****PLAYER OF THE GAME---ZELMO BEATY*****




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                2002-03 ILovethePacers at 2002-03 Jose Slaughter
                9/7/2004 8:20:00 PM

























                Final 1st 2nd 3rd 4th Total
                2002-03 ILovethePacers 27261517 85
                2002-03 Jose Slaughter 37262324 110













































































































































































































































































                VISITING TEAM: 2002-03 ILovethePacers
                PLAYER MIN FGM/FGA 3PT
                FGM/FGA
                FTM/FTA REB AST BLK STL TO PF TP
                Michael Jordan 48 6/20 0/1 3/4 2 3 0 3 0 4 15
                Maurice Cheeks 48 5/13 0/0 1/1 3 5 0 4 4 4 11
                Adrian Dantley 48 10/15 0/0 5/6 7 7 0 0 4 2 25
                Artis Gilmore 48 5/10 0/0 5/8 16 1 1 1 4 3 15
                Jeff Ruland 47 7/10 0/0 3/4 8 5 0 2 6 6 17
                Elton Brand 1 1/1 0/0 0/0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2
                TOTALS 240 34/69 0/1 17/23 36 21 1 10 18 19 85
                    49.3% 0% 73.9%              
                 
                HOME TEAM: 2002-03 Jose Slaughter
                PLAYER MIN FGM/FGA 3PT
                FGM/FGA
                FTM/FTA REB AST BLK STL TO PF TP
                Magic Johnson 48 11/16 0/0 3/5 8 10 1 2 4 1 25
                Tracy McGrady 48 9/18 3/5 5/6 3 7 1 0 3 4 26
                Otis Thorpe 48 6/14 0/0 4/4 10 4 0 3 1 4 16
                Anthony Mason 48 6/6 0/0 1/2 5 4 0 2 0 5 13
                Zelmo Beaty 48 11/19 0/0 8/9 10 5 1 6 3 1 30
                TOTALS 240 43/73 3/5 21/26 36 30 3 13 11 15 110
                    58.9% 60.0% 80.8%              

























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                  *****PLAYER OF THE GAME---ADRIAN DANTLEY*****





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                  2002-03 ILovethePacers at 2002-03 Jose Slaughter
                  9/7/2004 8:22:00 PM

























                  Final 1st 2nd 3rd 4th Total
                  2002-03 ILovethePacers 32252829 114
                  2002-03 Jose Slaughter 23213232 108






















































































































































































































































































































































































                  VISITING TEAM: 2002-03 ILovethePacers
                  PLAYER MIN FGM/FGA 3PT
                  FGM/FGA
                  FTM/FTA REB AST BLK STL TO PF TP
                  Maurice Cheeks 48 6/12 0/1 3/4 1 13 0 2 1 2 15
                  Jeff Ruland 47 10/11 0/0 7/8 10 4 0 2 2 6 27
                  Michael Jordan 43 9/17 0/1 2/2 6 6 0 3 2 6 20
                  Adrian Dantley 39 15/22 0/0 4/8 6 1 0 0 1 5 34
                  Artis Gilmore 38 2/3 0/0 4/10 5 5 0 2 1 5 8
                  Elton Brand 15 3/4 0/0 0/0 4 0 0 0 1 2 6
                  David Thompson 5 0/1 0/1 2/2 2 0 0 0 1 2 2
                  Detlef Schrempf 4 0/2 0/0 0/0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
                  Rudy Tomjanovich 1 1/1 0/0 0/0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2
                  TOTALS 240 46/73 0/3 22/34 34 29 0 9 9 28 114
                      63.0% 0% 64.7%              
                   
                  HOME TEAM: 2002-03 Jose Slaughter
                  PLAYER MIN FGM/FGA 3PT
                  FGM/FGA
                  FTM/FTA REB AST BLK STL TO PF TP
                  Magic Johnson 48 7/12 0/0 1/2 3 13 0 1 4 2 15
                  Otis Thorpe 46 7/11 0/0 7/10 6 5 1 0 2 6 21
                  Anthony Mason 41 8/10 0/0 4/6 4 3 0 0 0 6 20
                  Zelmo Beaty 41 6/13 0/0 8/10 14 1 0 2 3 6 20
                  Tracy McGrady 38 9/17 3/6 7/11 4 1 0 0 2 4 28
                  Drazen Petrovic 15 0/2 0/0 1/2 0 0 0 1 2 0 1
                  Mel Daniels 7 1/2 0/1 1/2 2 0 0 0 1 0 3
                  Rick Barry 2 0/1 0/0 0/0 2 1 0 0 0 0 0
                  Kiki Vandeweghe 2 0/0 0/0 0/0 1 0 0 1 0 0 0
                  TOTALS 240 38/68 3/7 29/43 36 24 1 5 14 24 108
                      55.9% 42.9% 67.4%              

























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                    I'm up 3-2 but the last two games are on the road.

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                      *****PLAYER OF THE GAME---ADRIAN DANTLEY*****





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                      2002-03 Jose Slaughter at 2002-03 ILovethePacers
                      9/7/2004 10:34:00 PM

























                      Final 1st 2nd 3rd 4th Total
                      2002-03 Jose Slaughter 35232225 105
                      2002-03 ILovethePacers 35282331 117







































































































































































































































































































































































                      VISITING TEAM: 2002-03 Jose Slaughter
                      PLAYER MIN FGM/FGA 3PT
                      FGM/FGA
                      FTM/FTA REB AST BLK STL TO PF TP
                      Otis Thorpe 48 4/4 0/0 4/6 4 2 0 2 1 4 12
                      Magic Johnson 47 6/10 0/0 8/9 7 12 0 1 4 3 20
                      Zelmo Beaty 42 6/11 0/0 2/4 10 3 0 1 2 5 14
                      Tracy McGrady 37 10/26 3/11 3/4 8 3 2 1 1 2 26
                      Anthony Mason 27 3/8 0/0 0/0 0 7 0 1 1 6 6
                      Drazen Petrovic 19 4/5 0/0 0/0 1 1 0 0 1 2 8
                      Rick Barry 7 3/4 0/1 1/2 1 0 0 0 4 3 7
                      Kiki Vandeweghe 6 3/3 0/0 0/0 0 0 0 2 0 0 6
                      Mel Daniels 6 2/3 0/0 2/2 0 0 0 0 0 0 6
                      Mark Price 1 0/0 0/0 0/0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
                      TOTALS 240 41/74 3/12 20/27 31 28 2 8 14 25 105
                          55.4% 25.0% 74.1%              
                       
                      HOME TEAM: 2002-03 ILovethePacers
                      PLAYER MIN FGM/FGA 3PT
                      FGM/FGA
                      FTM/FTA REB AST BLK STL TO PF TP
                      Michael Jordan 48 10/20 0/0 4/5 2 5 1 1 2 5 24
                      Adrian Dantley 48 15/21 0/0 13/17 4 3 0 4 4 0 43
                      Artis Gilmore 48 9/10 0/0 7/10 16 5 0 1 2 4 25
                      Jeff Ruland 47 4/8 0/0 4/4 12 6 0 1 2 4 12
                      Maurice Cheeks 40 3/6 0/0 2/2 1 3 0 4 1 4 8
                      Norm Nixon 8 2/2 1/1 0/0 0 3 0 0 0 2 5
                      Elton Brand 1 0/0 0/0 0/0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0
                      TOTALS 240 43/67 1/1 30/38 35 26 1 11 11 19 117
                          64.2% 100.0% 78.9%              

























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                        GAME 7
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                          *****PLAYER OF THE GAME---ANTHONY MASON*****




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                          2002-03 Jose Slaughter at 2002-03 ILovethePacers
                          9/7/2004 10:40:00 PM

























                          Final 1st 2nd 3rd 4th Total
                          2002-03 Jose Slaughter 31173625 109
                          2002-03 ILovethePacers 32252224 103









































































































































































































































































































































                          VISITING TEAM: 2002-03 Jose Slaughter
                          PLAYER MIN FGM/FGA 3PT
                          FGM/FGA
                          FTM/FTA REB AST BLK STL TO PF TP
                          Otis Thorpe 48 4/8 0/0 6/10 9 2 0 2 3 0 14
                          Anthony Mason 48 13/15 0/0 1/2 6 5 0 2 1 2 27
                          Magic Johnson 48 4/5 0/0 4/8 5 14 0 0 6 2 12
                          Tracy McGrady 41 10/24 2/6 2/4 8 4 1 4 2 4 24
                          Zelmo Beaty 38 6/8 0/0 9/10 8 2 0 0 2 3 21
                          Mel Daniels 10 4/8 0/0 0/0 0 0 0 1 1 1 8
                          Drazen Petrovic 7 1/1 1/1 0/0 0 3 0 0 1 1 3
                          TOTALS 240 42/69 3/7 22/34 36 30 1 9 16 13 109
                              60.9% 42.9% 64.7%              
                           
                          HOME TEAM: 2002-03 ILovethePacers
                          PLAYER MIN FGM/FGA 3PT
                          FGM/FGA
                          FTM/FTA REB AST BLK STL TO PF TP
                          Michael Jordan 48 12/22 1/2 4/4 3 6 2 2 6 2 29
                          Adrian Dantley 47 7/10 1/1 9/10 6 4 0 0 2 2 24
                          Jeff Ruland 38 4/6 0/0 3/4 8 5 0 1 2 6 11
                          Artis Gilmore 33 5/9 1/2 0/0 5 2 0 2 1 5 11
                          Maurice Cheeks 33 7/11 1/3 0/0 1 10 0 4 3 4 15
                          Elton Brand 20 1/2 0/0 0/0 2 1 0 1 2 2 2
                          Norm Nixon 15 5/7 1/2 0/0 1 5 0 2 0 0 11
                          Rudy Tomjanovich 6 0/3 0/0 0/0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0
                          TOTALS 240 41/70 5/10 16/18 26 33 2 12 16 22 103
                              58.6% 50.0% 88.9%              

























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                            CONGRATULATIONS JOSE

                            FINALS MVP
                            Zelmo Beaty!


                            #1 (11-3) Hoop Drafted #12 Salary Rank-7th ($77.7M)
                            #2T (10-4) Jose Slaughter Drafted #5 Salary Rank-12th ($75.5M)
                            #2T (10-4) ILoveThePacers Drafted #7 Salary Rank-2nd ($99.9M)
                            #3 (10-4) Rim Bender Drafted #16 Salary Rank-11th ($75.8M)
                            #4 (8-6) SkipperZ Drafted #10 Salary Rank-9th ($77.1M)
                            #5 (8-6) Louisville Lip Drafted #3 Salary Rank-5th (84.5)
                            #6 (7-7) Roaming Gnome Drafted #1 Salary Rank-4th ($87.2M)
                            #7 (7-7) Magic Rat Drafted #15 Salary Rank-14th ($73.2M)
                            #8 (7-7) MSA2CF Drafted #8 Salary Rank-15th ($71.8)
                            #9T (6-8) able Drafted #9 Salary Rank-6th ($79.4M)
                            #9T (6-8) Sycamore Ken Drafted #4 Salary Rank 1st ($102.6M)
                            #9T (6-8) DipperDunk Drafted #14 Salary Rank-8th ($77.3M)
                            #10 (5-9) Hicks Drafted #11 Salary Rank-16th ($70.7M)
                            #11T (4-10) BurnZone Drafted #2 Salary Rank-3rd ($89.2M)
                            #11T (4-10) Joel Draftred #6 Salary Rank-13th ($74.4M)
                            #12 (3-11) Pig Nash Drafted #13 Salary Rank-10th ($76.6)
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                                Congrats Jose!!!

                                I wouldn't have even made it to the finals without that Ruland pick that you made for me!

                                Thanks to Gnome for simming the games, to Jose for organizing this thing, and to anyone else who helped... It was great fun!

                                Here, everyone have a : on me

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