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    Around this time of year everyone starts posting their opinions about potential draftees. The best part about this, is that everyone has completely different opinions regarding different players. I thought it would be fun to see how people have done in the past when it comes to guessing how a player will turn out. Be honest, let's hear the screw ups as well as the good calls you made.

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    I'm batting 1.000.

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    I loved Joe Forte for those who remember him. Joe Alexander too. Pretty much anyone named Joe, I'm pretty wrong on.

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    I was way off on Brandon Jennings, but I was dead right on Rajon Rondo.

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    I started following bball a lot closer in 2005- didn't know too much before then. So lets see..
    2005: I was VERY high on Charlie Villanueva. I was also high on Warrick, but thats because I love Syracuse. I was also in love with Gerald Green's potential. I thought all UNC guys would be future all-stars. I thought Salim Stoudamire and Chris Taft were steals in the 2nd round. That was a super fail year
    2006: I thought Adam Morrison was going to be great (sadly) I thought JJ Redick was going to bust because of his inability to create his own shot. I did however call Rondo being super good (you don't lead your team in pts asts AND rebs and not do well was my reasoning) but to be fair I also thought Mardy Collins was going to be awesome. I hated the Shawne Williams pick. I thought Randy Foye and Brandon Roy were going to be the same player. I thought Maurice Ager was a steal in the 2nd round. I was thrilled when we got James White purely because of the super dunks on youtube and was very sad when he did not make the roster. I was disappointed that we did not get Millsap because the top rebounder in college has to do something in the NBA.
    2007: I was in love with Corey Brewer and hated Joachim Noah. Being in college in Ohio at the time, I thought Conley and Oden would both be sure all-stars. At the same time, I was absolutely drooling for Conley or Law and really wanted Indy to make a play for one of them. I thought Seattle was retarded for drafting Jeff Green (though now I love Jeff Green.) I laughed really hard when the Knicks drafted Wilson Chandler and thought they were going to continue to burn in residual mediocrity. I was VERY high on Morris Almond and thought he was going to be a great shooter (interesting? right? hate Redick, love Almond) I thought Demitris Nichols was a steal in the 2nd round, but again, I love Syracuse. I wanted DJ Strawberry purely because his name is awesome.
    2008: Like the rest of us, I knew Rose and Beasley were going to go 1 and 2. I thought both would be amazing. I didn't like Mayo because I thought he was arrogant and overrated. I thought Kevin Love was black for the longest time. I wanted Westbrook because I loved his name. Again, I lol'd at the Knicks in picking Danilo and thought they would burn in residual mediocrity. I was SUPER HIGH on DJ Augustin. I felt like Eric Gordon was far too 1 dimensional to be successful in the NBA. I thought both Lopez brothers would be awful in the NBA. I was however very pleased with the Bayless pick and proceeded to pout the rest of the night when he was traded. At the time, I was thinking "omg! Bayless and Ford backcourt! That is UNSTOPPABLE! SO FAST!" I proceeded to hate on Brandon Rush very hard. I was very high on Donte Greene, but again, thats because I love Syracuse. I wanted DeAndre Jordan, especially in the 2nd round. I also wanted Sean Singletary and thought he would be successful in the NBA.
    2009: Blake Griffin of course was undisputed number 1. I thought and still think Rubio will be great in the NBA if he decides to come. I was super high on Flynn, but you guys all know why by now. I didn't like Stephen Curry for some reason, I'm not sure why. I was in love with DeRozan and Jenning's potential. When Indy's time came around, I was SO HAPPY to see that Jrue Holiday was on the draft, and proceeded to cuss and pout for the rest of the night after Hansbrough was picked. I also wanted either Teague or Lawson. That was like rubbing salt on the wound. Conrad Brunner made me fall in love with Demarre Carroll and I wanted him too. DeJuan Blair and Chase Budinger falling were absolutely ridiculous in my opinion. I hated the AJ Price pick and wanted Pat Mills instead. I also wanted Indy to get Jerel McNeal and Dionte Christmas.
    Thats about it for me I guess

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    Screw ups:

    x I didn't think Jennings would have the rookie he had. (I still don't see him a starter on a contender, the jury is still out.)
    x I was dead wrong about Nick Young, thought he would be lot better.
    x Who would have thought James Johnson would have such a bad rookie season? Yup, not me.
    x I liked Westbrook but I didn't see him becoming the player that he is now.
    x I was higher on Love but the jury is still out on that.
    x I thought Brook Lopez would be average at best. He clearly looks above average and then some.
    x Me: Brandon Rush will be a stud! Reality: No he is not, at least NOT YET.
    x I made fun of Phoenix for picking Robin Lopez, He clearly exceeded my expectations. Not that he is great but he is ok.
    x I was so much higher on Alexis Ajinca. I figured he would be damned to the bench under LB but stilll... I liked him a lot.
    x I thought Chris Douglas Roberts would be a better player.
    x Pretty much like everyone else, I really liked Greg Oden's game. I mean what was not to like? I thought he was a better pick than Kevin Durant although I thought both of them would be studs.
    x I liked Shelden Williams.
    x I didn't see that Rondo thing coming you know. wow.
    x I thought Darrell Arthur was a steal.

    Now, success stories:
    x I predicted that Roy and Gay would be the best players in 2006 draft (Although I was thinking Gay would be slightly better than Roy).
    x Adam Morrison was not in the lottery on my draft board.
    x I wasn't feeling Randy Foye at all. I think he busted. I had Ronnie Brewer higher than Foye.
    x I made fun of Grizzlies for taking Conley @4, thought it was too high.
    x I made fun of Jianlian pick. He wasn't on my lottery either.
    x Was spot on Brandon Wright. I thought he would bust.
    x I absolutely loved the Noah pick.
    x Corey Brewer = bust. Yeap, called it before the draft.
    x Hated the Spencer Hawes pick and I was right.
    x My mayo prediction was spot on.
    x I thought Gallinari would bust. Jury is out but I still don't like his game at all.
    x I called Joe Alexander would bust and he clearly did.
    x Hmm, is it too soon to call Koufos a bust? I'll go ahead and do that since I called it
    x I thought Serge Ibaka is a stud before the draft. He is on his way to become a stud.
    x Mario Chalmers. I was very high on him.
    x I hated Thabeet pick like everyone else, he ended up at D-league. It's still early but I think he will bust.
    x I said Tyreke will be a star from day 1.
    x I hated the Flynn pick and I still do.
    x Absolutely hated the Harden pick @3.
    x Hated the Jordan Hill pick. I wouldn't touch him in the lottery.
    x Had Jrue Holiday at 6-10 range.

    I can go on forever but I think that's enough for now. Lol, this is fun.

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    I was right on Rondo and Kevin Martin and Al Jefferson. I wanted us to take Rondo so bad that year that I still get kind of angsty about it. Completely off on David Harrison and James White, although I only became enamored with both after the draft.

    I actually thought Thabeet would be a decent defense/rebounding center, and I even invested in him with a first round pick on my fantasy team's rookie draft. Ouch.

    And I guess I was wrong on Oden, too. I thought Durant would be a superstar as well, but I really wanted a local kid who was basically my age to become an NBA legend. Dang.
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    I was very very high on DJ Augustin a couple of years ago and I am still holding out until he proves me right and becomes a really good point guard. No matter how long it takes
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    Only one that comes to mind right now, but I was WAY wrong on Gerald Green. I thought he would be McGrady version 2. Now he isn't even in the league.

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    I thought both Rose and Beasley would be huge letdowns. Guess I was half right.

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    I'm surprised at people talking about Jennings. I got the impression I was the only person in the world who was wrong about him.

    My biggest "I told you so" was, is, and probably will be for a long time, Shawne Williams. I flipped out draft night. Flipped. Out. I still have no clue what Larry was thinking.

    As for wiffs, I wouldn't even know where to begin. As for recent, somebody mentioned Nick Young, I'll agree with that. Oden/Durant as well. I guess the most pertinent is Acie Law. Man I was pissed we lost him for rent-a-Al.
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    I hated Nick young and Javaris Crittenton with a passion. I was sweating bullets during the 2007 draft.

    Of course, I also was perfectly ok with us taking McRoberts at #25, so I wasn't exactly perfect either.

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    I hate to admit this, but I was skeptical that Curry would be a high impact player right away. I thought he'd be very good but not the potential star many did at the pro level. Ouch. I was cautiously optimistic about Shawne Williams, but I didn't realize he was such an idiot. Harrison totally blew it due to personality issues.

    I'm had really good feelings about several players who I thought would turn out really well, such as Westbrook and Evans, but unfortunately GMs had the same ideas and they skyrocketed up the board by draft time. Granger was the most dumbfounding. I was contemplating schemes to move up to the top 5 and he just falls in Indiana's lap at 17. Unbelievable. He's the player I wanted all along.

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    2009: I wanted us to draft Earl Clark. I guess the jury is still out on him. He didn't hardly play this year.
    2008: I wanted Thabeet to come out so we could draft him. I wasn't to high on Hibbert that year. He didn't have a great senior year.
    2007: I was mad that Atlanta got our stud PG in Acie Law, and that is the year I wanted Hibbert to come out and for us to trade into the first round for him. He had a really good game against Oden that year.
    2006: I liked Morrison and Redick. They both were scoring machines in college. I liked the White pick in the second round. He sure could throw it down. I also like Marcus Williams that year.
    2005: I liked the pick of Granger, but I didn't really know to much about him except that he fell in that draft and was suppost to go in the top 10.
    2004: I thought we found our new franchise center in David Harrison.

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    2005: I was crossing my fingers that we would pick Gerald Green when both Green and Granger fell. I felt disappointed when we picked Granger, but after reading up on him he quickly became my favorite player.

    2006: I HATED the Shawne Williams pick. I was working that night and my wife sent me a text of who we picked and I was absolutely furious. We passed on Rondo!

    2007: I wanted Acie Law real real bad just like everybody else did.

    2008: I wanted DJ Augustin with a passion. When he went to the Bobcats and Bayless was still available I was absolutely ecstatic. The trade that night infuriated me, and I still don't really like Rush as much as most of the people on here do.

    2009: I was praying for Jrue Holiday and when Stern said Tyler Hansbrough's name I turned the TV off and tried to go to sleep but I was so mad. Still hate the pick, just to be honest.
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    I was so right about Rondo, begged the team to take him. (on here)
    And so wrong about Roy Hibbert. (happily)

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    I pay selective attention to the draft. Last year's draft class with deep and intriguing, this year's bores me to death. I think this will be one of the crappier drafts, not bad as 2000 probably, but pretty bad.

    2002: I desperately wanted Kareem Rush. I was in love with him and thought he would be the next Reggie. I absolutely hated the Fred Jones pick. If Rush wasn't available when we picked (he was) I wanted Juan Dixon. I was in bed with the experts too much that year in that I thought Tayshaun Prince wouldn't be a great NBA player, I sort of thought he could be good but I took everyone else's word for it. As a result I became a more independent thinker about the draft.

    2003: Didn't pay too too much attention to this draft as the Pacers had no first rounder. I was very intrigued by T.J. Ford and thought he would be a great NBA player, until I learned about his spine condition which completely turned me off from him and led me to beg other fans who supported him coming here over the year to be careful what you wish for when trading for T.J. Admittedly however, this was due to his injury concerns and not his actual play.

    2004: I thought Shaun Livingston was going to be a great NBA PG. I was meh about the Harrison pick, thought he might be decent, but I didn't buy into him as our next Smits or anything.

    2005: Didn't pay as much attention to this draft as I should. I thought Gerald Greene was BPA when we picked but after reading up on Granger I realized he was much more polished and was a safer pick and more likely to be the better pro.

    2006: I was excited about Adam Morrison, did not know who in their right mind would use a lottery pick on Saer Sene, and though JJ Reddick would be a huge bust. With our position, I wanted the Pacers to pick Jordan Farmar. I thought he was going to be better than Rondo. I did not like the Shawne Williams pick at all.

    2007: Was relatively disengaged due to lack of Pacers first rounder, but I liked Marco Bellineli, Arron Aflalo, Morris Almond, and Acie Law in that order if the Pacers were to get a mid first rounder.

    2008: I loved Hibbert at 17. Hated the Rush for Bayless trade although it would have been more tolerable for me if we could have locked up Jarrett Jack long term. I grew to like Rush but my patience for him now is waning.

    2009: I thought Hansbrough was BPA where we picked. I didn't hate this pick like many. I was hot on Brandon Jennings, thought that Collison and Holiday would both turn out to be garbage. I was also no fan of Teague or Earl Clark.

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    this thread is fun... and cathartic i suppose

    2005: i didn't really pay much attention to the draft, but i really liked diogu. shows how much i know. i was happy though when danny dropped to us. but then, i would have been just as happy with gerald green.

    2006: didn't pay much attention again, but i remembered disliking marcus williams, who a lot of experts had us picking. i did expect us to go for a pg, so the shawne pick was a surprise. i was a fan of the "flight white" pick... ok ok my draft prognosis is terrible.

    2007: i wasn't very high on acie law, but i thought he'd turn out decent at least. i liked stuckey a lot, and also rudy fernandez.

    2008: i didn't like joe alexander at all. i'm still amazed he got picked so high. i was a fan of brandon rush, but i thought we might have gotten him at 17. i liked speights, darell arthur, and george hill - well 1 out of 3 isn't so bad. hibbert wasn't on my radar at all.

    2009: i really really liked tyreke evans. i thought he'd be the best player from this draft. of course with griffin's injury and the emergence of jennings, this isn't so clear yet. i thought the lottery was a minefield with several guys who i felt have high bust potential (thabeet, curry, hill, jennings). for the pacers pick, i would have been happy with blair, holiday, or clark. i thought the pacers were going to pick lawson, who i thought would be ok, but not great. the hansbrough pick blindsided me actually. up til now i'm still not entirely sure what i think of the pick.

    well there it is. far more misses than hits. i guess i better shut up and listen to the experts instead

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    Of course, I also was perfectly ok with us taking McRoberts at #25, so I wasn't exactly perfect either.
    2007:

    27 - Detroit - Aaron Afflalo
    28 - San Antonio - Tiago Splitter
    29 - Phoenix - Alando Tucker
    30 - Philadelphia - Petteri Koponen
    31 - Seattle - Carl Landry
    32 - Boston - Gabe Pruitt
    33 - San Antonio - Marcus Williams
    34 - Dallas - Nick Fazekas
    35 - Seattle - Glen Davis
    36 - Golden State - Jermareo Davidson
    37 - Portland - Josh McRoberts

    Other than Landry, and a case could be made for Big Baby, but I hate him and wouldn't want any part of him, I think I would take McRoberts over all those guys. Marc Gasol went 48 to the Lakers, and Ramon Sessions went 56 to the Bucks. Those were the only guys drafted after McRoberts that are still in the league, to the best of my knowledge.

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    Screw ups
    Morrison - I thought he would be pretty good..me and MJ screwed that up :P

    I'm not convinced I'm wrong with Curry yet, as I still stand with "great shooter, not a point guard" but so far, he's done well at the point.

    I thought Oden was going to be better than Durant.

    Good Calls

    Rudy Gay- I thought..eventually, he'd be a pretty good player. And "eventually" he was.
    Marcus Williams- I laughed at the team that got suckered into picking him.
    Thabeet- I think eventually he'll be a darn good defensive player, but knew he'd stink his first couple of years.
    Price- yea, it wasn't suprising that he dropped though. Unless you happened to see the kid, fully healthy (which was only about 15 games of his college career) it was hard to know just how good he was. But I've gone on record as saying that intangibles, the mental part of the game, are most important for PGs, and AJ's got them in spades.

    I pretty much called all the Uconn players I watched, I just knew their games a lot better than most other players. (Exception being I thought Gordon wouldn't be as good as he is, I figured Boone would be in Europe by now, and I thought Rashad Anderson might get a place on a team, he was such an incredible shooter.)

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    I liked Acie Law. Thought Gerald Green would be a stud, but wanted Granger once he fell that far.

    I was pretty high on Dj Augustin as well.

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