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    Really interesting group of prospects in tomorrow for the Pacers. Not sure if this should be merged in another thread?


    http://www.nba.com/pacers/news/workouts_100602.html
    Guards finally get their day to work out for the Pacers' scouting staff on Wednesday in Conseco Fieldhouse.

    Six backcourt prospects are due in:

    * Eric Bledsoe, Kentucky

    * Avery Bradley, Texas

    * Sherron Collins, Kansas

    * Jordan Crawford, Xavier

    * A.J. Slaughter, Western Kentucky

    * Willie Warren, Oklahoma

    This will be the Pacers' third workout in advance of the June 24 NBA Draft. In the first two involving 12 players, eight of the prospects have been either power forwards or centers.

    Bradley is the highest-rated prospect in Wednesday's group, widely projected as a potential lottery pick. Several experts have pegged him as the Pacers' likely choice at No. 10.

    Bledsoe is an intriguing point guard prospect who backed up the likely No. 1 overall pick, John Wall, at Kentucky. Crawford began his college career at Indiana, transferring after his freshman season. Bledsoe, Crawford, Collins and Warren all are generally projected as second-round prospects.

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    A damn shame Kramer's not in this group. Would show what each of these guys could do against a lock-down, physical defender.

    (Of course, physical defense isn't allowed in the NBA anymore, so I guess it doesn't matter.)
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    A damn shame Kramer's not in this group. Would show what each of these guys could do against a lock-down, physical defender.

    (Of course, physical defense isn't allowed in the NBA anymore, so I guess it doesn't matter.)
    I have no idea why Kramer was in the group with Stephenson, Whiteside, Caracter, Udoh, etc. when he's not a big and should be in this Wednesday guard group.

    On a side note, it's funny how some people think Bledsoe is a top-15 player, but some mock drafts have him going sometime in the second round...

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    This should be an interesting group to watch. I could see the Pacers looking at a guy like Crawford, especially if he's available early in the 2nd or maybe if they were to trade down. We obviously know he attraction of Bledsoe and I'm wondering if he'll slip a little and become this year's Dejuan Blair?

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    Kramer was in that group because he's not making the team and they needed some guard play to work the bigs through PnR and defending the rim.

    Bradley is not a lock down but he can give guys problems. Collins is a poor mans Collison, meaning he'll show lots of impressive quickness and maybe knock down shots too, but I'd consider it fool's gold in this case.

    Bledsoe needs to put his speed changes and quickness with the ball on display if he wants to reassure scouts who had to mostly watch him as the off-guard. He can't afford to lose control on some of his more aggressive moves, which has been an issue at times.

    Warren needs to not get dusted by these guys if he wants to stay in the top 40, and I'm not expecting him to do it to be honest.

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    No Xavier Henry in to work out for the Pacers? I wonder if he must have really impressed some GMs with his size and shooting and is likely going in the top 8 in the draft.

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    No Xavier Henry in to work out for the Pacers? I wonder if he must have really impressed some GMs with his size and shooting and is likely going in the top 8 in the draft.
    I hope so. We need to have acouple guys like him picked so that Udoh or Monroe fall to us.
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    we should also take a long hard look at willie warren. he has all the tools, and if he can learn the nba game could be a absolute steal with a late first round or early second round pick we could pick up cheap, much like bledsoe.

    He's much less of a distributor/pure pg than bledsoe but probably has more potential and may adjust his game being surrounded by a higher level of talent. In fact when he played with blake griffin last year was a much better lead guard when he played the position.

    if we pass on bradley with the 10th pick, which i wouldnt really mind depending on who we took, I would be ecstatic if we could land bledsoe or warren later in the draft.

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    I can't say I'm crazy about Warren, but I suppose it doesn't hurt to see how these guards compare with each other.

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    need to bring in Henry, Babbit, Hayward, and some other SF SG prospects for the 3rd workout. I would hope Ed Davis and Greg Monroe, Cole Aldrich, Patrick Patterson would come in too.

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    Kramer is a lockdown defender in college. Turner showed us that he would not be as potent as defender against NBA talent than he was in college.

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    I hope so. We need to have acouple guys like him picked so that Udoh or Monroe fall to us.
    I would have really liked to have seen Monroe in that Tuesday workout.

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    I have no idea why Kramer was in the group with Stephenson, Whiteside, Caracter, Udoh, etc. when he's not a big and should be in this Wednesday guard group.

    On a side note, it's funny how some people think Bledsoe is a top-15 player, but some mock drafts have him going sometime in the second round...
    Some people look at what he did in his only year.
    Others look at his potential and consider that he played out of position and with another true freshman.
    What's funny? ..............

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    I would have really liked to have seen Monroe in that Tuesday workout.
    I'd be a bit surprised if Monroe works out for us.
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    I'd be a bit surprised if Monroe works out for us.
    Agreed. He seems like a lock to go ahead of us.

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    I would like to see Paul George come in for a workout too. I am interested in Crawford in the second recond.

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    I hope so. We need to have acouple guys like him picked so that Udoh or Monroe fall to us.

    I'm hoping one of those guys going early to push a good player down will be Hayward.

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    I would like to see Paul George come in for a workout too.

    ABSOLUTELY! He's one of my picks for the 1st round. The Pacers need to get another 1st round pick around 16-20, but I seriously doubt Bird can pull it off. BUT Birdy if you do I'd be REALLY happy.

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    Kramer was in that group because he's not making the team and they needed some guard play to work the bigs through PnR and defending the rim.
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    Kramer is a lockdown defender in college. Turner showed us that he would not be as potent as defender against NBA talent than he was in college.
    You're right, but you compare apples to apples.

    And Kramer had some good games against Turner. Shoot, if the best player in college feels the need to tweet trash talk, you've at least gotten under his skin.
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    That's what Kramer was...a pest. He had some very good defensive games, but he also had some very poor defensive games and was prone to biting hard on ball fakes. Very physical, but not at all quick enough to guard at an NBA level.

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    ABSOLUTELY! He's one of my picks for the 1st round. The Pacers need to get another 1st round pick around 16-20, but I seriously doubt Bird can pull it off. BUT Birdy if you do I'd be REALLY happy.

    I think he might be gone befroe the 16th pick. I think he will go somewhere between 8th-12th. He will be a stud a 6'9" SG that can flat out shoot the ball.

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    I'm hoping one of those guys going early to push a good player down will be Hayward.
    Are you serious? Hayward won't go before the Pacers pick he won't go until at least after 15. He shouldn't go in the top 20 really.

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    Are you serious? Hayward won't go before the Pacers pick he won't go until at least after 15. He shouldn't go in the top 20 really.

    One can only hope!!

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