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    Chad Ford better comes up with a better mock draft, this one is crap, Patterson in the 20's?
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    Please note, I'm not advocating picking Hayward at 10, I'm just saying if we aren't taking a point guard, it makes just as much sense to take another wing as it does to take another power forward.
    I agree with your point,

    Bottom line is the Pacers have to, absolutely have to, take the best player available regardless of position.

    Bird reached last year and it cost us some good PG's

    He has to get it right this year. If Im Bird I try and switch picks with the Timberwolves. I would make a run for Ramon Sessions and the number 4 , for our number 10 and whatever they want outside of Granger/Hibbert
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    I like that Zoubek/Brackins second round mock... I think both of those guys have places in the league. Regardless of whether they end up being more than 7-11 rotation players, and I think Brackins could be more potentially, picking up a couple NBA bigs in the second round would be great.

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    Hayward is a local kid, a good guy, and he has a good chance to be a very high quality complimentary player.

    That's the PROBLEM, the Pacers don't need another good guy complimentary player, local or otherwise. Not to mention the Pacers already have that in McBob. The Pacers need to draft a player at #10 who will be more than that. Fans need to elevate their expectations of the quality of player to be drafted, and quit thinking in terms of a complimentary role player.

    This inane notion that the Pacers can't get a better PF than what they have in Hans and McBob is ludicous. Neither is that great nor is Hans a guarantee to EVER be healthy again. Nor is Foster. Why chance both will be able to be healthy and contribute next season? Why pass on a player at PF that can be the future starting PF for years to select a local kid who is a "tweener" that can be best described as a 4 in the terms "stretch forward?" Personally, I've had my fill of "stretch forwards."

    If Bird selects Hayward at #10, Herb Simon had best fire him on the spot.

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    1. Washington
    John Wall, PG, Kentucky. The Wizards now have a second asset (other than a virtual National Treasury of cap-friendly money) with which to attract free agents. They will go down as the lottery's big winner, but don't discount the Heat. The path to their point guard of the future - Arenas - just became clearer.

    2. Philadelphia
    DeMarcus Cousins, C, Kentucky. While teams are calling the Wizards about Arenas, the 76ers should expect at least as many pleas for the second pick and a shot at Ohio State swingman Evan Turner. The 76ers would rather have a big man, even if he has Stanley Roberts written all over him. Alas, it wouldn't be the first vastly overrated center taken No. 2 in NBA history. It's a tradition.

    3. New Jersey
    Evan Turner, SF, Ohio State. Devin Harris lost a lot of games as a member of the Nets during the 2009-10 season, and his run of bad luck continues. He would have been in Arenas' enviable position -- likely to get dealt out of a bad situation -- had form held and the Nets landed the rights to Wall. Instead, he'll find himself passing to Turner next season. It could be worse ... but not much.

    4. Minnesota
    Wesley Johnson, SF, Syracuse. The Timberwolves no doubt had their eye on Turner when they arrived at the lottery in the second seat. Dropping two spots to No. 4 sounds bad, but they still get a much needed upgrade at small forward. Johnson has to like this position -- it means being reunited with old Orange teammate Jonny Flynn.

    5. Sacramento
    Derrick Favors, PF, Georgia Tech. This is the guy the Kings would have taken third, so apparent bad luck in the lottery really wasn't bad luck at all. Why a power forward when two of your three best holdovers are big men? Because before you say they should draft for need, consider this: A last-place team's greatest need is talent. Favors is clearly the best left at this point.

    6. Golden State
    Al-Farouq Aminu, SF, Wake Forest. Warriors fans have to be hoping Cousins gets taken earlier because no team has a worse history drafting big men. Dropping from fourth to sixth probably means losing Johnson, but landing Aminu means adding much needed athleticism to the small-forward position. They can only hope he has as long and generally successful a run as a similar pick in their not-so-distant past -- Antawn Jamison.

    7. Detroit
    Cole Aldrich, C, Kansas. The Pistons were this season's biggest underachievers, so who better to remedy that than a need-position player from one of college basketball's most consistent programs? Bill Laimbeer entered the league with a similar portfolio and turned out to be one of the franchise's all-time plums.

    8. L.A. Clippers
    Gordon Hayward, SF, Butler. For years, the Clippers tried to find a way to create a Dunleavy family reunion in Los Angeles, but dad Mike could never pry son Mike from the Warriors or Pacers. It wasn't just a paternal thing. Son Mike actually would have been a nice fit. Hayward, a similar talent, is, too.

    9. Utah
    Greg Monroe, PF, Georgetown. Not long ago, Team Europe would have jumped on an opportunity like this to add an intriguing talent such as Donatas Motiejunas to the mix. But the way Andrei Kirilenko has gone south, the Jazz has to be thinking this side of the Atlantic for a change. The board-sweeping Monroe is a nice addition to a roster that's likely to lose Carlos Boozer come July.

    10. Indiana
    Xavier Henry, SG, Kansas. The Pacers need firepower. The best shooting guard in the land. The next Reggie Miller. Henry assuredly isn't the latter, but he's the best shooting guard in the draft. That's not a bad catch when you're picking 10th.


    11. New Orleans
    Ed Davis, PF, North Carolina. The Hornets have fewer needs than most lottery teams because, frankly, they aren't really a lottery team. They're here because Chris Paul got hurt. No lottery team is in more of a best-athlete-available mode. Davis has to be the top guy on any draft board at this point.

    12. Memphis
    Ekpe Udoh, PF, Baylor. The Grizzlies entered last year's draft thinking they were a top-flight center away from becoming, well, what the Thunder became. Now they have to be aware they are nowhere near that status. Yes, they still need a center, but it's now obvious they need much, much more than that. This type of athlete is a start back in the right direction.

    13. Toronto
    Donatas Motiejunas, PF, Lithuania. What do you do when you know your star power forward isn't coming back, but you don't want to let him know you know he's not coming back? Motiejunas will be a great complement to Chris Bosh. Or so the Raptors will say on draft night. Actually, they hope he'll be a great replacement.

    14. Houston
    Luke Babbitt, SF, Nevada. Having dealt Carl Landry at the trade deadline, the Rockets could use more size even with Yao Ming returning. At the same time, they need someone who won't get in Yao's way, which Landry did at times. Babbitt is a rich man's Matt Bullard, who had a nice little career in Houston.

    15. Milwaukee
    Patrick Patterson, PF, Kentucky. The Bucks have one more chance to do something special before Michael Redd walks next summer. That kind of short-term mindset should get them thinking power forward. Patterson becomes a no-brainer once you head down that road.


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    John Wall, G, Kentucky. After a season in which everything went wrong, the Wizards were due for some good fortune. How well the mix of Wall with Gilbert Arenas will work is difficult to predict, but Wall gives Washington a chance to rebuild around a potential star point guard. In a league suddenly loaded with point guards, the idea of taking a point guard first is no longer an issue, as it was even just two seasons ago when Derrick Rose was taken. Wall could grow into a worthy club member with Deron Williams, Rajon Rondo, Chris Paul, Rose and the league's other rapid, young point guards.


    2. Philadelphia
    Evan Turner, G, Ohio State. Cousins and Favors might have more potential to dominate and will earn close looks in the weeks before the draft, but Turner is a solid, safe pick and a very good fit. He brings unusual polish and offensive versatility at a time when players typically leave school before they can develop as he has. The closer the Sixers look, the more they might happily stick with Turner, who should fit nicely in between Andre Iguodala and Jrue Holiday.


    3. New Jersey
    DeMarcus Cousins, C, Kentucky. Cousins, with the draft's best combination of size and ability, might have the greatest potential to dominate or disappoint. He's only 19, and his potential shortcomings could be no more than part of the process for such a young player. If Wall and Turner are gone with the first two picks, Cousins might be the easiest pick of the draft, risky with the first pick but worth the gamble third. He might not be enough to attract LeBron James, but no one in this draft probably would have.

    4. Minnesota
    Derrick Favors F/ C, Georgia Tech. Had the Timberwolves won the lottery, it would have been interesting see if David Kahn would have taken yet another point guard. The fall to fourth, however, provides another less obvious quandary. The Wolves seem to have their share of power forwards who are not quite centers. Favors, however, would seem the obvious choice, if not exactly one to fill a need. Another very young prospect at just 18 years old, Favors did not produce offensively as consistently or efficiently as expected but should do well in workouts with explosive moves and good hands.


    5. Sacramento
    Wesley Johnson, SF, Syracuse. Johnson is probably not the most exciting prospect the Kings could find and might not have the upside of the top four picks. But the Kings have young big men developing and a guard who dominates the ball. Johnson could be a solid addition and rapid contributor.


    6. Golden State
    Al-Farouq Aminu, SF, Wake Forest. The Warriors took a one-year break from drafting athletic, multi-position big men in the lottery with last year's pick of Stephen Curry. It might be time to return to form. Aminu's skills and strength give him potential to move up a few spots after the individual workouts. The Warriors have not relied on a true center in years, however, and will have to look hard at Aldrich and Monroe, but Aminu might be tough to let slip any further.

    7. Detroit
    Cole Aldrich, C, Kansas. The Pistons have been using 35-year-old Ben Wallace in the middle, making the center position as good a spot as any to rebuild. The solid additions of Austin Daye and Jonas Jerebko last season should have Joe Dumars choosing between big men. Aldrich might be the most ready and well-rounded of the options left.


    8. L.A. Clippers
    Greg Monroe, C/PF, Georgetown. Assuming Blake Griffin returns as expected, the Clippers have a star to build around, along with cap room to spend in free agency. Monroe would give them another center to play in a rotation with Chris Kaman in the role Marcus Camby filled. A strong rebounder and passer, Monroe is nowhere near that polished but has outstanding potential as a finesse frontcourt player.


    9. Utah
    Ed Davis, PF, North Carolina. Though Davis was expected to have improved more last season, that potential is still clear. While the Knicks might be relieved that the pick they gave up to get Stephon Marbury from the Suns did not end up being a top-three selection, the Jazz has a chance to develop a frontcourt player the way it did Paul Millsap, especially if Carlos Boozer leaves in free agency.


    10. Indiana
    Ekpe Udoh, PF, Baylor. Danny Granger should not have looked so disappointed. This could work out well for the Pacers, especially if they are ready to move away from their reliance on 3-point bombing and volume shooting. With Roy Hibbert developing nicely at center, Udoh can offer athleticism at power forward between Hibbert and Granger, with an improving shot and solid rebounding and shot-blocking potential.


    11. New Orleans
    Donatas Motiejunas, PF, Benetton Treviso. Will be the next player compared to Dirk Nowitzki, though for now, Andrea Bargnani seems a better comparison and more reachable goal. With great size, he has similar shooting touch and a solid all-around offensive game.

    12. Memphis
    Patrick Patterson, PF, Kentucky. The Grizzlies could work hard to move up, and failing that, might move back. They have several picks to offer to a team that could still find their big man available a few spots later, and they would have reason to try, given that they would not seem to have a spot for another young power forward, having filled the roster with big men (Hasheem Thabeet, Zach Randolph, Marc Gasol, Darrell Arthur, Hamed Haddadi) in recent seasons. Patterson is their type and it would be too soon to grab one of the remaining wings, though they would better fill a need.

    13. Toronto
    Hassan Whiteside, PF/C, Marshall. If Chris Bosh moves on as seems likely, Andrea Bargnani can move to power forward, where he probably belongs, and the Raptors can look to develop a center and a defense. Whiteside has a lot of work to do offensively, but that is not the Raptors' problem. He is extremely long, jumps well and led the nation in blocked shots last season.

    14. Houston
    Daniel Orton, C, Kentucky. The Rockets have been unusually determined under GM Daryl Morey to ignore need to draft the player they like most. The depth of big men in the latter half of the lottery should allow them to get both. Orton's size would help behind Yao Ming, but teams will closely examine his knees in the coming weeks.

    15. Milwaukee
    Xavier Henry, G, Kansas. After a series of big men go in the lottery, the Bucks will likely start a run on wings. Though just a freshman, Henry appears the most NBA ready with a solid build and smooth offensive game. Henry could be a good complement for John Salmons or successor to Michael Redd. More than the other options, he seems suited for the discipline coach Scott Skiles would demand.

    16. Minnesota
    James Anderson, SG, Oklahoma State. Anderson could go a few spots earlier, but if the run on big men pushes him to the Wolves, David Kahn could take advantage of the opportunity to grab him. Kahn showed last season a determination to take the best available player rather than draft for need. Anderson would offer both, as a prolific and efficient scorer with good length for the position.

    17. Chicago
    Gordon Hayward, SF, Butler. Hayward surprised many by staying in the draft but does have an NBA-style game, with an ability to score off the dribble with either hand, shoot with range and move the ball in the offense. He might lack the lateral quickness to defend as a three but would need to get stronger to be a range-shooting four. The Bulls would be able to give him time to develop.

    18. Miami
    Solomon Alabi, C, Florida State. The years with Alonzo Mourning would make the Heat especially fond of a shot-blocker with Alabi's potential. He would bring the length the Heat has lacked, and his athleticism could make him more of a contributor offensively than advertised. But he is a project who would need some time, especially to defend bulkier centers.

    19. Boston
    Paul George, SF, Fresno State. The Celtics won a championship with James Posey coming off the bench, and George could offer similar length and athleticism, with outstanding shooting range. He'd need to become much more disciplined on both ends for the Celtics, but there might be no better place for him. They could use the addition of young athleticism.

    20. San Antonio
    Larry Sanders, PF/C, Virginia Commonwealth. Another team that traditionally drafts without regard to immediate need, Sanders might be a good fit for the Spurs, anyway, especially if Tiago Splitter does not come over. He does not have the bulk to defend consistently inside but is long, athletic and energetic enough to contribute in some matchups.

    21. Oklahoma City
    Damion James, SF, Texas. James would fit extremely well with the young and athletic Thunder. He struggled when asked to be a go-to scorer with Texas, but with Oklahoma City he would be able to be able to be an athletic role player with a good shooting touch and an NBA-ready body.

    22. Portland
    Avery Bradley, SG, Texas. With the league suddenly loaded with quick, scoring point guards, Bradley's ability to defend on the perimeter could be valuable. He shows signs of being a potentially prolific scorer himself, able to score off the dribble and shoot with range. His defense and ability to score in a halfcourt offense would fit well with the Blazers.

    23. Minnesota
    Luke Babbitt, SF, Nevada. The Wolves could go many directions with their third first-round pick, particularly with Ricky Rubio slotted to eventually join them. The roster changes that are needed and seem certain would make the needs and position irrelevant, but it might be difficult to take another guard, especially a point. Babbitt would offer the shooting touch and range to fit well around Rubio's playmaking or Johnny Flynn's speed, and would go from the Wolf Pack to the Wolves.

    24. Atlanta
    Eric Bledsoe, PG, Kentucky. After Jameer Nelson tore through the Hawks in the playoffs, Atlanta might be drawn to a tough, competitive point with greater quickness than Mike Bibby will ever show again. Bledsoe did not get much time at point with John Wall around and will need work and time at the position, but he could be a steal at this point of the first round.

    25. Memphis
    Willie Warren, PG, Oklahoma. Warren fell far from where he was projected to go before the season. There are red flags about Warren's attitude, including some strong comments from Oklahoma coach Jeff Capel in December, but none seems worth letting him slip much more and the Grizzlies have been known to gamble in recent seasons. He struggled with the greater offensive responsibility that came his way without Blake Griffin, but he did play well with Griffin, an indication he could fit well with Zach Randolph and the Grizzlies.

    26. Oklahoma City
    Kevin Seraphin, PF/C, Cholet (France). The Thunder has shown great patience in building around Kevin Durant and would happily wait for Seraphin to hone his skills to go with his outstanding strength and physical tools, either in the NBA or with another year in France. Though he needs time to develop offensively, he already shows a good skill set. Seraphin could still back out of the draft but might not be able to do better than a selection by Oklahoma City, a few miles up the road from his former home in Dallas.

    27. New Jersey
    Quincy Pondexter, SF, Washington. A rare senior in the first round, Pondexter benefited greatly from sticking around and improving his game. He has improved as a shooter but is still not an outstanding shooter, especially from range. He has, however, shown himself to be reliably productive. The Nets choice might be impacted with how they use their first pick, but they could use the immediate influx of talent rather than a less mature project.

    28. Memphis
    Stanley Robinson, SF, Connecticut. Opinions on Robinson are widely varied and he could go much earlier, though more of a consensus could come by the draft. An outstanding athlete with potential to cause mismatch problems, Robinson has not seemed to develop the consistency or well-rounded game that he would seem able to produce. His abilities, however, warrant a late first-round gamble, especially for a Memphis team with two first-round picks.

    29. Orlando
    Terrico White, SG, Mississippi. White might have been well-served to stick around for another season. White's scoring ability might fit well with an Orlando team that does not have many players geared toward getting their own shot. He did not develop as a point guard but could be a solid instant-offense type off the bench with the physical abilities to develop into a solid defender.
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    30. Washington
    Jordan Crawford, SG, Xavier. Another player who draws mixed reviews, Crawford could move up or back in the next few weeks. His potential and offensive skills might fit well with a Washington team that needs to reload. The choice could depend on what the Wizards do with their own pick, but Crawford's stock has seemed to rise in recent weeks.
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    Final Mock I'll add.

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    Wizards John Wall PG 6-4 195 Kentucky
    Congratulations to the Wizards, who will almost certainly take Wall with the first pick. The bigger question is whether or not Gilbert Arenas is back with the Wizards or moved at a discounted price. But either way, Wall is now the future in Washington, despite the fact they don't have much to surround him with right now.

    2. 76ers Evan Turner SG 6-7 217 Ohio State
    I keep hearing Brandon Roy's name when people are talking about Turner, and perhaps no player is as NBA-ready as the Ohio State product. He should vie for Rookie of the Year in Philly, who were the other big winner on draft night. And if the Wizards somehow pass on Wall, the Sixers will gladly take him, even if it doesn't make a ton of sense with Jrue Holiday coming on.

    3. Nets Derrick Favors SF 6-10 246 Georgia Tech
    The Nets were the most popular losers on draft night, as dreams of LeBron started slipping away when they lost out on Mr. Wall. The pick here is either DeMarcus Cousins or Favors, and because Cousins is more C than PF in my mind, I'm going with Favors. I slept on him in Version 1, but he's going to be a Top 5 pick. He's still somewhat of a project - as in a guy who won't be ready to really produce for a couple years. I doubt he is in the running for Rookie of the Year and offensively, he's probably going to struggle. But a timeshare with Yi Jianlian might be just what the doctor ordered, and three years from now he could be a beast.

    4. Timberwolves DeMarcus Cousins C 6-11 280 Kentucky
    As usual, the Wolves had the same luck in their lottery that I have in Powerball, and Keno down at the local pub. Yes, The Wolves already have Al Jefferson and Kevin Love, but keep in mind that David Kahn is a man who seems to enjoy collecting guys who play the same position - at least with point guards. They could take a small forward like Al-Farouq Aminu or Wesley Johnson, which would make the most sense to almost everyone. But then again, this is the Wolves we're talking about. But even though it doesn't seem like it right now, Cousins could end up being the second best player in this draft.
    5. Kings Al-Farouq Aminu SF 6-8 218 Wake Forest
    What do the Kings need? They're pretty set at most positions, but the only sure bet is Tyreke Evans, who can play both guard spots. Small forward seems to be a place they could use help, and I like the freakishly athletic Aminu with this pick, although it could easily be Wesley Johnson instead.

    6. Warriors Cole Aldrich C 6-11 245 Kansas
    With the disastrous season the Warriors'' big men had (Andris Biedrins, Ronny Turiaf, Anthony Randolph, Brandan Wright), the Warriors would have loved to get their hands on Cousins, but that dream is now history. Um, good thing they won all those meaningless games for Nellie. A center really makes sense here and Cole Aldrich is the best one on the board. Can he play for Nellie? We may be close to finding out.

    7. Pistons Wesley Johnson SF 6-7 195 Syracuse
    The Pistons really wanted a center here, but it looks like both Cousins and Aldrich will be gone. If Aldrich is still there, I like him here. If not, small forward makes sense, and Johnson or Aminu should be the pick.

    8. Clippers Greg Monroe PF 6-11 240 Georgetown
    Monroe is a bit of a wildcard and could go anywhere from No. 5 to 10. The Clippers are still unsure of how healthy Blake Griffin's going to be, so Monroe might be a nice insurance pick.

    9. Jazz (via Knicks) Patrick Patterson PF 6-8 223 Kentucky
    Patterson reminds me of guys like Carl Landry, DeJuan Blair and Jason Thompson, and could end up being a double-double machine. The Jazz already have Carlos Boozer and Paul Millsap, but probably won't by the time Patterson is ready to make a significant contribution. Patterson's stock appears to be falling, and I may end up moving him down in the next version of this draft.

    10. Pacers Gordon Hayward F 6-8 210 Butler
    Do I really believe the Pacers will reach for Butler's phenom at No. 10? Not really, but it would be pretty cool if it happened, and would definitely sell some Pacer tickets in a hurry. Which is their second biggest issue, closely trailing the fact that they have a terrible basketball team. Hayward is going as high as 14 in other mocks I've seen, meaning he could easily jump up to play for his hometown team. And while this still seems to high for Hayward, his name just keeps coming up in the Indy Star. But if Hayward doesn't blow them away in workouts, look for the Pacers to take the popular pick, Ed Davis out of Carolina.


    11. Hornets Ed Davis SF 6-9 215 North Carolina
    The Hornets don't need a starting PF with David West still plugging along, but Davis will likely be the best player on the board. He has the potential to be an Al Horford clone, which is why he should go in the lottery. If he's not available, Epke Udoh or Daniel Orton is a likely choice.

    12. Grizzlies Epke Udoh PF 6-11 240 Baylor
    Zach Randolph isn't going to be around forever and Darrell Arthur hasn't exactly knocked anyone's socks off. Udoh averaged 14 and 10 at Baylor, but will probably be more of a role player in the NBA.

    13. Raptors Daniel Orton C 6-10 260 Kentucky
    Chris Bosh seems good as gone in Toronto, while Andrea Bargnani is a center only on paper. Orton would provide some immediate size and strength for the Raptors and seems to make a lot of sense here. The only problem is that Orton averaged just three points and three boards while playing behind some studs at UK last year, meaning he's going to be a project.

    14. Rockets Xavier Henry G 6-6 210 Kansas
    The Rockets have Aaron Brooks and Kevin Martin, but also don't really need any more big men who aren't centers. Henry's draft position is up in the air and he could easily go 10 picks later than this, although I have a feeling his stock will rise.

    15. Bucks (via Bulls) Hassan Whiteside PF 7-0 235 Marshall
    Whiteside will be a bit of a project, but is still a possible lottery pick. He should become a defensive specialist, somewhat like a junior version of Marcus Camby. But it going to take him a few years to develop.
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    10. Pacers Gordon Hayward F 6-8 210 Butler
    Do I really believe the Pacers will reach for Butler's phenom at No. 10? Not really, but it would be pretty cool if it happened, and would definitely sell some Pacer tickets in a hurry. Which is their second biggest issue, closely trailing the fact that they have a terrible basketball team. Hayward is going as high as 14 in other mocks I've seen, meaning he could easily jump up to play for his hometown team. And while this still seems to high for Hayward, his name just keeps coming up in the Indy Star.
    This Mock lost me with this pick for the Pacers. Draft Hayward just to draft a local College Player with name recognition just to sell tickets?

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    I like that Zoubek/Brackins second round mock... I think both of those guys have places in the league. Regardless of whether they end up being more than 7-11 rotation players, and I think Brackins could be more potentially, picking up a couple NBA bigs in the second round would be great.
    zoubek just seemed insanely slow (and broken down) to me...has anyone as slow as him played in the NBA recently...Aaron Gray?

    also, maybe this is my bias as a purdue fan, but he seemed more "dirty" than "tough" as a player

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    Most likely Bird is going to draft Patterson. Bird has been obsessed with guys that have spend many years in college. Just look at Hibbert, Rush and Hansbrough. Patterson would fit right into their characteristics

    I would like to see Bird draft someone like David or Monroe, but he probably wont

    Even Bledsoe would be intriguing
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    Most likely Bird is going to draft Patterson. Bird has been obsessed with guys that have spend many years in college. Just look at Hibbert, Rush and Hansbrough. Patterson would fit right into their characteristics

    I would like to see Bird draft someone like David or Monroe, but he probably wont

    Even Bledsoe would be intriguing
    I agree on this part. If anything, Patterson does fit the mold of Players that Bird looks for. If Udoh isn't available, I'd much rather go with Patterson and then Monroe.
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    I see Monroe having a similar skill set to Pau Gasol. Very similar touch around the basket. Both are good rebounders. Both get good position in the post and are exceptional passers. Both are good dribblers for big men. I think Monroe is a guy we should get, but I know I will probably get ripped for this post.

    cdash - At least I didn't say he "compared favorably" to Gasol.

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    I see Monroe having a similar skill set to Pau Gasol. Very similar touch around the basket. Both are good rebounders. Both get good position in the post and are exceptional passers. Both are good dribblers for big men. I think Monroe is a guy we should get, but I know I will probably get ripped for this post.

    cdash - At least I didn't say he "compared favorably" to Gasol.


    Yes, no misunderstandings this time around. On top of that, I agree with you on Monroe. I like him. I'm not sure he's the best fit next to Hibbert, but I think he has a better chance to be a really good player than someone like Udoh or Davis.

    I liked Avery Bradley, then cooled on him a bit, but now, I'm back on board. He didn't have a great year at Texas, but I will give him a pass because Rick Barnes is a terrible coach. I love the idea of someone who can play lockdown D on the perimeter with really good athleticism. He's someone I feel like we could take a chance on.

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    I agree on this part. If anything, Patterson does fit the mold of Players that Bird looks for. If Udoh isn't available, I'd much rather go with Patterson and then Monroe.
    What I don't understand is didn't DeJuan Blair also fit that mold last year?

    Honestly, would much rather Bird "swing for the fences" this time then to try and hit a single, even if it doesn't pan out

    The interesting thing will be to see in 2-3 years how last years draft really panned out
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    I see Monroe having a similar skill set to Pau Gasol. Very similar touch around the basket. Both are good rebounders. Both get good position in the post and are exceptional passers. Both are good dribblers for big men. I think Monroe is a guy we should get, but I know I will probably get ripped for this post.

    cdash - At least I didn't say he "compared favorably" to Gasol.
    You shouldn't get ripped for that at all

    Thats why we call it an opinion

    I also think the Jazz will scoop up Monroe before us, which to me, indicates a very solid pro
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    What I don't understand is didn't DeJuan Blair also fit that mold last year?

    Honestly, would much rather Bird "swing for the fences" this time then to try and hit a single, even if it doesn't pan out

    The interesting thing will be to see in 2-3 years how last years draft really panned out
    Shhhhh.....quickly delete this post before Seth sees it and he starts on his whole "We should have drafted Blair instead of Hansbrough" rant.

    I could see your point....but ignoring the "well, if we drafted Blair last season then we'd be more open to drafting anybody else to fill whatever need we have now" logic ( which I concede is valid ) and the mere fact that we can't do a "re-do" on last years draft.....I don't mind drafting a 6'9" Patterson ( compared to a 6'7" Blair ) that doesn't have any ACL concerns and appears to have a more well rounded inside ( mostly ) / out offensive game.
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    If the Pacers actually chose Hayward over Ed Davis and Udoh I think my head would explode.

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    Neither the Pacers nor Bird can afford to "swing for the fences" this draft.

    I'm beginning to have a feeling Bird is going to take the safe way, and look to see what established player he can trade the #10 pick to get. He kept talking about young players can't do it by themselves, and the need for veterans in order to get where they need to be. I see the veteran in a position of need... PG or PF. Maybe even the right SG as I still don't feel Bird is completely sold on Rush.

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    If the Pacers actually chose Hayward over Ed Davis and Udoh I think my head would explode.
    If they choose Hayward we should hire the mayflower trucks to help them out of town. Choosing a guy who most think is a 7th or 8th man will not sell tickets after the first 6-10 games.
    Pick a PF and trade Murphy for some young talent.

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    I am curious if we might try to trade up with the Clippers if Monroe is available there. I don't think there's a chance he falls past Utah. I wonder if Utah likes Udoh more for his shot blocking though. They have NONE and it shows. I am just excited for the draft next month (as long as we don't get Hayward).

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    The problem is NEVER whether swinging for the fences nets you at least a hit.

    It is whether swinging for the fences nets you a double-play ball.

    Risk is not just your chance of failure, it is your chance of failure factored with the risk of that failure.

    Taking a guy who will still be good but might not live up to his hype - not much of a risk.

    Taking a guy who might end up out of the league OR in an off court incident - huge risk.

    And, considering injuries that affect careers happen even if you take someone deemed to be perfectly healthy, how can you not take into account consensus on existing injuries.

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    I am curious if we might try to trade up with the Clippers if Monroe is available there. I don't think there's a chance he falls past Utah. I wonder if Utah likes Udoh more for his shot blocking though. They have NONE and it shows. I am just excited for the draft next month (as long as we don't get Hayward).
    I am afraid he is going to do well in the workouts, and yes be gone by our pick

    I really think we can make a deal with Minny and exchange our #10 for their #4 (plus whomever we would have to throw in)
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    The problem is NEVER whether swinging for the fences nets you at least a hit.

    It is whether swinging for the fences nets you a double-play ball.

    Risk is not just your chance of failure, it is your chance of failure factored with the risk of that failure.

    Taking a guy who will still be good but might not live up to his hype - not much of a risk.

    Taking a guy who might end up out of the league OR in an off court incident - huge risk.

    And, considering injuries that affect careers happen even if you take someone deemed to be perfectly healthy, how can you not take into account consensus on existing injuries.

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    I think you make some valid points Bill

    The only thing I would add is we have Granger and what I see are a bunch of role players, which is noit a bad thing but I think we all agree we need another player who can get his own shot
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    That's the PROBLEM, the Pacers don't need another good guy complimentary player, local or otherwise. Not to mention the Pacers already have that in McBob. The Pacers need to draft a player at #10 who will be more than that. Fans need to elevate their expectations of the quality of player to be drafted, and quit thinking in terms of a complimentary role player.

    This inane notion that the Pacers can't get a better PF than what they have in Hans and McBob is ludicous. Neither is that great nor is Hans a guarantee to EVER be healthy again. Nor is Foster. Why chance both will be able to be healthy and contribute next season? Why pass on a player at PF that can be the future starting PF for years to select a local kid who is a "tweener" that can be best described as a 4 in the terms "stretch forward?" Personally, I've had my fill of "stretch forwards."

    If Bird selects Hayward at #10, Herb Simon had best fire him on the spot.
    The problem is that we DON'T know what we have in Hansbrough due to the injury, and it's making this year's pick so much harder than what's necessary. Personally, I still believe that Tyler was the best player available at the time of pick. Looking over his game log, Tyler put together some solid numbers when he was able to play. I believe he could be our PF of the future alongside Hibbert, if 100% healthy.

    Personally, I say pick a PF ONLY if Murphy is traded on draft night. We have a logjam at the PF spot (Foster, S. Jones, McRoberts, Hansbrough, Murphy, Granger - when playing small ball), and drafting a PF will hinder the development of the rookie. IMHO, Indiana needs to get a PG no matter what while trading away Murphy to free up playing time for Hansbrough and McRoberts. Also, getting rid of Murphy will force JOB to play more half-court basketball which caters to the strengths of Hibbert and Hansbrough. Picking a PF, IMHO, is a panic move due to the uncertainty of Hansbrough's health.
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    we need another player who can get his own shot
    ANOTHER player? You mean the Pacers have one now?

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