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  • And now...Mock Drafts!

    Chad Ford already posted his first post-lottery mock draft, and here it is:

    http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft...ckDraft-100518

    The lottery results are in and the Washington Wizards are the big winners in the John Wall sweepstakes. That means it's time for our second full mock draft of 2010.

    At this point, very little is set in stone. Expect this mock draft to fluctuate greatly over the course of the next six weeks. The NBA draft combine in Chicago, the Reebok Eurocamp and hundreds of team workouts will dramatically alter the face of the draft.

    But for now, after talking to numerous NBA team sources, here's our best stab at how the draft might play out in June. Here is the second of my many mock drafts between now and the June 24 draft:



    PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


    Washington


    John Wall

    Position: PG
    Height: 6-foot-4
    Weight: 185 pounds
    Age: 19
    School: Kentucky
    Analysis: The Wizards are the big winners tonight. While choosing Wall would create a jam because the Wizards already have Gilbert Arenas to play point guard, there are a couple of reasons they probably won't be deterred. First, many believe Arenas has always been more a two guard. Second, the Wizards will shop Arenas hard around the league, especially after last season's gun incident.

    Either way, winning the lottery provides some balm after a very tough season in Washington. The Wizards have already started to blow up the team and rebuild. Now in Wall, they can have a great talent as a foundation.


    PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


    Philadelphia


    Evan Turner

    Position: SG
    Height: 6-7
    Weight: 205
    Age: 21
    School: Ohio State
    Analysis: Turner wouldn't be a perfect fit in Philadelphia. He would duplicate, to a degree, what Andre Iguodala and starting point guard-to-be Jrue Holiday bring to the table. But I think that the Sixers will take Turner anyway.

    He was the best player in college basketball, can play three positions on the floor and is ready to contribute right now. The 76ers will figure out how to get all three players on the floor or finally pull the trigger on an Andre Iguodala trade.


    PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


    New Jersey


    Derrick Favors

    Position: PF
    Height: 6-9
    Weight: 215
    Age: 18
    College: Georgia Tech
    Analysis: The Nets have to be disappointed that they didn't get Wall, but Favors was ranked No. 2 on our Big Board at the beginning of the season and he would fit a need. Actually, Favors has the raw talent to be the best player in the draft down the road, and resembled a young Antonio McDyess.

    While he wouldn't be the immediate franchise player the Nets hoped for, Favors could be a very good pick.



    PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


    Minnesota


    Wesley Johnson

    Position: SF
    Height: 6-7
    Weight: 198
    Age: 22
    School: Syracuse
    Analysis: The Timberwolves have a need at small forward, and if they couldn't get Evan Turner, Johnson is the next best thing. He's an athletic swingman who can shoot, run the floor and rebound. He may not have star potential, but I think Johnson can come in and immediately contribute to the Wolves.


    PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


    Sacramento


    DeMarcus Cousins

    Position: C
    Height: 6-11
    Weight: 260
    Age: 19
    School: Kentucky
    Analysis: While Cousins has the talent to be a top pick, he's scared away teams a bit with his on-court antics and a motor that sometimes moves to idle. But at No. 5, he would be a great pick for the Kings, giving them toughness, rebounding and a legitimate, low-post scorer. Teaming him with Carl Landry, Jason Thompson and Spencer Hawes would give Sacramento a very good front line.


    PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


    Golden State


    Cole Aldrich

    Position: C
    Height: 6-11
    Weight: 245
    Age: 21
    School: Kansas
    Analysis: The Warriors need help in the middle and Aldrich, while not flashy, can provide rebounding, shot-blocking and a decent face-up game. The Warriors should have other options like Al-Farouq Aminu and Ed Davis, but I think Aldrich is the leading candidate right now.


    PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


    Detroit


    Al-Farouq Aminu

    Position: SF
    Height: 6-8
    Weight: 205
    Age: 19
    School:Wake Forest
    Analysis: The last thing the Pistons need is another tweener after adding Austin Daye and Charlie Villanueva last summer. However, Aminu does have more upside than both of those players. Athletically, there aren't many players better than him in the draft.


    PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


    Los Angeles Clippers



    Ekpe Udoh

    Position: PF
    Height: 6-10
    Weight: 240
    Age: 22
    School: Baylor
    Analysis: The Clippers could go in a lot of different directions with this pick, but given the loss of Marcus Camby, Udoh would be a defensive presence in the paint. Butler's Gordon Hayward is also a real possibility here.


    PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


    Utah
    (via New York)


    Greg Monroe

    Position: PF
    Height: 6-11
    Weight: 250
    Age: 19
    School: Georgetown
    Analysis: The Jazz are in a position to lose Carlos Boozer this summer via free agency, but Monroe would be a solid consolation prize. He's not superathletic, but he's the most skilled big guy in the draft and would be a perfect fit in coach Jerry Sloan's half-court offense.


    PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


    Indiana


    Ed Davis

    Position: PF
    Height: 6-10
    Weight: 215
    Age: 20
    College: North Carolina
    Analysis: Davis would be a nice consolation prize for the Pacers if he slides this far. Davis didn't have the standout year many hoped he would, but he's a big, athletic 4 who will crash the glass and play hard -- the next Dale Davis?


    PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


    New Orleans


    Daniel Orton

    Position: C
    Height: 6-10
    Weight: 260
    Age: 19
    School: Kentucky
    Analysis: Orton barely made a dent in the box scores for Kentucky, but NBA scouts are convinced he could be a really good NBA center. He is strong and physical and can dominate on the defensive end.

    He needs to improve his offense, but if he does, he could be a star down the road. The Hornets were very thin up front all season. Orton also would give them some insurance in the event Emeka Okafor breaks down.


    PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


    Memphis


    Luke Babbitt

    Position: SF
    Height: 6-9
    Weight: 220
    Age: 20
    School:Nevada
    Analysis: This pick may seem like a bit of a reach, but sources say the Grizzlies have locked in early on Babbitt; they're concerned he won't be there when they pick again at No. 25. While I have no idea who he'll guard at the next level, the guy can really score. The question: Is he the next Adam Morrison or the next Chris Mullin? The Grizzlies are banking on the latter.


    PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


    Toronto


    Avery Bradley

    Position: SG
    Height: 6-3
    Weight: 180
    Age: 19
    School: Texas
    Analysis: The Raptors already have two pretty good point guards on their roster -- Jose Calderon and Jarrett Jack. However, neither is the uber-quick speed demon that coach Jay Triano would love to have. Bradley also gives the Raptors something else that neither Calderon and Jack provide -- the ability to play lockdown defense.


    PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


    Houston


    Hassan Whiteside

    Position: C
    Height: 6-11
    Weight: 225
    Age: 20
    Country: Marshall
    Analysis: Whiteside is the ultimate high-risk, high-reward player in the draft. He was a tremendous shot-blocker in college basketball and runs the floor like a guard.

    However, he showed major signs of immaturity as a freshman at Marshall. The Rockets are the perfect organization to bring him along slowly and develop him into the next Marcus Camby.


    PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


    Milwaukee
    (via Chicago)


    Gordon Hayward

    Position: SF
    Height: 6-8
    Weight: 200
    Age: 20
    School: Butler
    Analysis: I hesitate to put Hayward this low, knowing that the Chicago draft combine is coming up and that he's going to measure better athletically than people think.

    Teams as high up as the Wizards, Clippers and Pacers are looking at him closely. But I doubt he'll slip past the Bucks, who can use Hayward at both the 2 and the 3.

    He needs to gain some strength, but there's really nothing else not to love about his game.


    PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


    Minnesota
    (via Charlotte)


    Paul George

    Position: SF
    Height: 6-8
    Weight: 185
    Age: 20
    School: Fresno State
    Analysis:After Whiteside, George is one of the biggest upside players in the draft. He didn't dominate at Fresno State, but as a 6-8 2-guard who can really shoot the basketball, he draws comparisons to everyone from Joe Johnson to Wilson Chandler to Trevor Ariza.

    The Wolves need shooting and size in their backcourt, so he should be the perfect fit.


    PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


    Chicago
    (via Milwaukee)


    James Anderson

    Position: SG
    Height: 6-6
    Weight: 195
    Age: 21
    School: Oklahoma State
    Analysis: Anderson was one of the best scorers in college basketball and could be a very good fit in the Bulls' backcourt. His ability to stretch the defense and attack the basket would make him a nice complement to Derrick Rose.


    PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


    Miami


    Eric Bledsoe

    Position: PG
    Height: 6-1
    Weight: 190
    Age: 20
    School: Kentucky
    Analysis: Bledsoe is a tough, Pat Riley type of player and could be a long-term upgrade from the Mario Chalmers-Carlos Arroyo duo at point guard.

    Physically, he's ready for the NBA right now. But he still needs more game-time experience running the point. Long term, Bledsoe could pay off.



    PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


    Boston


    Xavier Henry

    Position: SG
    Height: 6-7
    Weight: 220
    Age: 19
    School: Kansas
    Analysis:If Henry falls this far, it will be a pretty dramatic development since he was once considered a lottery pick. Henry does bring a few things to the table, however. He already has an NBA body and he can shoot the NBA 3.

    He may be a little one-dimensional, but with Paul Pierce beginning to age and Ray Allen hitting free agency, he'd be a nice fit in Boston.


    PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


    San Antonio


    Damion James

    Position: SF
    Height: 6-8
    Weight: 224
    Age: 22
    School: Texas
    Analysis: James is one of the more underrated players in the draft. Very few players have his combination of athleticism and motor.

    He doesn't have a position on offense, but he can defend multiple positions on the floor. He should be able to step in right away with the Spurs veterans and provide meaningful minutes.


    PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


    Oklahoma City


    Donatas Motiejunas

    Position: PF
    Height: 7-0
    Weight: 220
    Age: 19
    Country: Lithuania
    Analysis: If Motiejunas believes he'll slip this far, he most likely will withdraw from the draft. But he'd be a great long-term pickup for the Thunder if they can get him this low.

    He's a very skilled forward who has some Pau Gasol and Toni Kukoc in his game. He is playing at a high level in Europe but needs to get stronger.

    It would be nice to draft him and stash him in Europe next season.


    PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


    Portland


    Patrick Patterson

    Position: PF
    Height: 6-8
    Weight: 245
    Age: 21
    School: Kentucky
    Analysis:Patterson would be a steal for the Blazers if he slips this low. While he does little to wow you, he's the type of unselfish, productive big man who will fit well in the Blazers' system.


    PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


    Minnesota
    (via Utah)


    Kevin Seraphin

    Position: PF
    Height: 6-10
    Weight: 258
    Age: 20
    Country: France
    Analysis: With their third pick of this draft, you can expect the Wolves to stash a player overseas. Seraphin hasn't really produced big numbers in France, but he has Serge Ibaka-like physical upside.


    PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


    Atlanta


    Quincy Pondexter

    Position: SF
    Height: 6-7
    Weight: 220
    Age: 22
    School: Washington
    Analysis: One of the best seniors in the country, Pondexter is an elite athlete who proved this season that he can really score. He's a jump shot away from being a star. Think the next Desmond Mason.


    PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


    Memphis
    (via Denver)


    Craig Brackins

    Position: PF
    Height: 6-10
    Weight: 230
    Age: 22
    School: Iowa State
    Analysis: Brackins is a good pick for the Grizzlies. He's a high-character guy who can score inside and outside and will play hard. With Zach Randolph in the last year of his contract, he could be a nice long-term replacement.


    PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


    Oklahoma City
    (via Phoenix)


    Solomon Alabi

    Position: C
    Height: 7-1
    Weight: 245
    Age: 22
    School: Florida State
    Analysis: The Thunder continue to lack a legitimate low-post threat. They drafted B.J. Mullens last year to be that guy, but he's still a work in progress. Alabi will be, too, but at this point in the draft, he has too much size and upside to pass on.


    PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


    New Jersey
    (via Dallas)


    Terrico White

    Position: SG
    Height: 6-5
    Weight: 211
    Age: 20
    School: Mississippi
    Analysis: White is an elite athlete who, when he's on, is one of the best guards in the country. The problem is, he has a tendency to disappear in games. If the Nets can get him to play with some consistency, he would be a steal here.


    PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


    Memphis
    (via L.A. Lakers)


    Larry Sanders

    Position: SF
    Height: 6-10
    Weight: 220
    Age: 21
    School: Va. Commonwealth
    Analysis:Normally, you would expect the Grizzlies to take an international player here with their third pick. The problem is, there aren't a lot of international players worthy of such a high pick.

    Sanders is a project, but his shot-blocking skills are coveted by the Grizzlies.


    PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


    Orlando


    Willie Warren

    Position: PG
    Height: 6-4
    Weight: 210
    Age: 20
    School: Oklahoma
    Analysis: At the beginning of the season, Warren was considered a potential top-10 pick. However, a poor season and some injuries, plus some bad chemistry with his coach, really hurt his stock.

    But he is a steal here and the type of versatile guard who could make an impact for the Magic.


    PICK TEAM PLAYER VITALS


    Washington
    (via Cleveland)


    Keith Gallon

    Position: PF
    Height: 6-9
    Weight: 300
    Age: 19
    School: Oklahoma
    Analysis: Not every team in the league is a Gallon fan, but a few teams have him ranked very high. I saw him work out in New York and I can see why.

    He is skilled, can shoot with NBA range and has a big body. He needs to lose weight and prove that he's going to work hard, but he's a better prospect than Glen Davis was.


    Next Five In: Devin Ebanks, F, West Virginia; Stanley Robinson, F, UConn, Elliot Williams, G, Memphis; Jordan Crawford, G, Xavier; Dominique Jones, G, South Florida
    I actually like Ed Davis, so I'm not too upset with this.

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    Re: And now...Mock Drafts!

    Are the Pacers really looking closely at Gordon Hayward?

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      Re: And now...Mock Drafts!

      Originally posted by pwee31 View Post
      Are the Pacers really looking closely at Gordon Hayward?
      I hope not but how hard would we really have to look he played in our backyard.
      Vita sine honore vivere not est.

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        Re: And now...Mock Drafts!

        Originally posted by pwee31 View Post
        Are the Pacers really looking closely at Gordon Hayward?
        God, I hope not! Now, THAT would be a serious waste of a draft pick. We have a glutton of players who can play SG/SF.


        Remember when we could have gotten 1-2 solid players and a possible Top 3 draft pick in the 2017 NBA Draft by trading away Paul George?

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          Re: And now...Mock Drafts!

          Chad Ford better comes up with a better mock draft, this one is crap, Patterson in the 20's?
          @WhatTheFFacts: Studies show that sarcasm enhances the ability of the human mind to solve complex problems!

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            Re: And now...Mock Drafts!

            Originally posted by ksuttonjr76 View Post
            God, I hope not! Now, THAT would be a serious waste of a draft pick. We have a glutton of players who can play SG/SF.
            Rush, Granger and Dhantay Jones... is that really so good of a wing rotation that we shouldn't even think about taking another wing?

            I don't think so. Hayward would help just as much as one of the power forwards that will be available to us. Unless Cousins or Favors drops to 10, which isn't going to happen, I just don't see a player at that position that will have enough of an impact to be worthy of the 10th pick in the draft going forward.

            Before I get chastised, I didn't forget about Dunleavy.

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            • #7
              Re: And now...Mock Drafts!

              I think we'll look at trading down. If you could pay less for the same calibur, why not do it? Although, I do like that "next Dale Davis" tag he put on Davis. Even though Dale was 6'11 and an enforcer in the paint. He did more than just play hard.

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              • #8
                Re: And now...Mock Drafts!

                Originally posted by QuickRelease View Post
                I think we'll look at trading down. If you could pay less for the same calibur, why not do it? Although, I do like that "next Dale Davis" tag he put on Davis. Even though Dale was 6'11 and an enforcer in the paint. He did more than just play hard.
                At this point Ed Davis, looks absolutely nothing like his uncle Dale physically. Maybe he can put on 50 lbs or so of muscle in the NBA, but I think that comparison is more just a cop out because they have the same surname.

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                • #9
                  Re: And now...Mock Drafts!

                  yeah the next Dale Davis that guy is as soft as toilet paper
                  @WhatTheFFacts: Studies show that sarcasm enhances the ability of the human mind to solve complex problems!

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                  • #10
                    Re: And now...Mock Drafts!

                    This draft really looks terrible right now...Aldrich at 6? Yikes.


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                    • #11
                      Re: And now...Mock Drafts!

                      Originally posted by Indy View Post
                      This draft really looks terrible right now...Aldrich at 6? Yikes.
                      It's basically a 4 player draft (I'm including Cousins and Favors). Everybody knew that all along.

                      Except Jim O'Brien and your Indiana Pacers.

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                      • #12
                        Re: And now...Mock Drafts!

                        I am totally underwhelmed with Ed Davis. Trade down and get Tiny Gallon and a point guard
                        or Seraphin or Sanders.
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                        • #13
                          Re: And now...Mock Drafts!

                          Originally posted by Rupert Stilinski View Post
                          Rush, Granger and Dhantay Jones... is that really so good of a wing rotation that we shouldn't even think about taking another wing?

                          I don't think so. Hayward would help just as much as one of the power forwards that will be available to us. Unless Cousins or Favors drops to 10, which isn't going to happen, I just don't see a player at that position that will have enough of an impact to be worthy of the 10th pick in the draft going forward.

                          Before I get chastised, I didn't forget about Dunleavy.
                          Why yes it is. Rush can shoot, D. Jones is a solid defender/slasher, Granger is Granger, and Dunleavy is a descent 6th man. Hayward would be in no position to make any impact to this team depth wise. This team needs a PG.


                          Remember when we could have gotten 1-2 solid players and a possible Top 3 draft pick in the 2017 NBA Draft by trading away Paul George?

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                          • #14
                            Re: And now...Mock Drafts!

                            Originally posted by owl View Post
                            I am totally underwhelmed with Ed Davis. Trade down and get Tiny Gallon and a point guard
                            or Seraphin or Sanders.
                            I rather take my chances with Daniel Orton than Ed Davis. Orton would make a good wide-bodied player for us. It's a shame we need a PG.


                            Remember when we could have gotten 1-2 solid players and a possible Top 3 draft pick in the 2017 NBA Draft by trading away Paul George?

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                            • #15
                              Re: And now...Mock Drafts!

                              Originally posted by ksuttonjr76 View Post
                              Why yes it is. Rush can shoot, D. Jones is a solid defender/slasher, Granger is Granger, and Dunleavy is a descent 6th man. Hayward would be in no position to make any impact to this team depth wise. This team needs a PG.
                              I can't imagine Dunleavy would be worth retaining after his contract is up after this season. I hope they find a way to move him before this season is even underway.

                              Hayward would be better than Jones. He would complement Rush and Granger very well.

                              Of course the team needs a PG, but if they are going to consider taking another backup PF, they might as well consider taking another wing too.

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