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    Hello again everyone...it is good to find time to write again.

    Tonight I want to discuss some potential under the radar trade targets I believe the Pacers front office should be looking at this spring and summer. I'm going to try and pick out guys that I think would fit our long term best interests, and that won't necessarily be people that you've may have thought about. I'll try and give my reasoning why I think each player would be a good fit for us as I go along. Hopefully some of the rest of you may have your own "hidden gems" that you've seen on teams around the league that might be good players to try and target. Donnie Walsh was able to do this years ago with the trade for Jermaine O'Neal, so we know it can be done...let's see if we can identify some players who could shine here that maybe we can try and obtain.

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    PG Rodrigue Beaubois of the Dallas Mavericks

    Beaubois played sparingly for Rick Carlisle this season, and is blocked for playing time by future hall of famer Jason Kidd.

    Beaubois may not have played much, but he made an impression on me whenever I saw him take the floor. He is an athletic freak, with a giant wingspan and I think huge potential upside with enough playing time.

    He has a French background, and was a second round draft pick in last June's draft. Playing in limited minutes, this year he scored 7.1 pts per game in the 56 games he appeared in. His ability to score translated well, as his shooting numbers are very impressive. 51.8% from the field, 80.8% from the line, and 40.9% from three point range.

    His ridiculous athleticism is what I am intrigued by though. He looks extremely quick to me on the ball defensively, and I think he projects to be a really good defender in the future as he figures out how to play with the God given talents he has. I keep mentioning his wingspan for a reason, as I believe he has the wingspan of almost 7 ft if the reports I remember from last years draft are correct. This means in the future, even if he slows down after he adds more weight (which he needs to do) he will always be able to contest shots and keep people in front of him defensively. Offensively that kind of reach gives him the ability to rise up and shoot over people in traffic.

    Dallas is in win immediately mode I think, with no time to worry about developing Beaubois. This is a PG I think teams should really try and acquire from the desperate Mavs, and I'd love the Pacers to try and target him somehow this summer.

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    Chicago's Kirk Hinrich isn't exactly hidden, but I think he is drastically under valued as a player in the eye of the public, so therefore he makes my list.

    Hinrich is one of my favorite players in the league to watch play from a defensive perspective. Simply put, I think he puts as much effort to playing the right way a point guard should from a DEFENSIVE perspective as any player in the league. Hinrich excels at a skill I value highly, which is putting pressure on in the backcourt dribble without getting beaten. I think Hinrich is a way above average defensive point guard, though I am not sure he is viewed that way by everyone.

    Is he a great point guard offensively? No, probably not. But he is very functional, and I think he is great at getting you into your offensive set play. He isn't flashy and he doesn't make the wow play, but he makes the simple play very well. I like that he runs the pick and roll well, can play off the ball a little, and has good size and durability.

    Being that the current Pacers play somewhat unconventionally on offense actually plays into his game I think, as his ability to play off the ball and be a really good cutter away from the basketball makes him a really good fit for us.

    Being that the contracts are somewhat similar, I wonder if Chicago might entertain a deal based around a Hinrich for Murphy? Chicago is actually one team in the league I think Murphy would be a good fit for, as Joakim Noah is a really good fit besides a player of Murphy's skills I think. Just a thought.

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    Alot is made of the idea of returning Michael Conley of the Grizzlies back to his hometown of Indianapolis, and I would love that as well. But there is another Indianapolis product languishing thru his rookie year in Atlanta, and that is Jeff Teague.

    Teague didn't do much in his rookie campaign, as he is blocked by veteran guards Mike Bibby and Jamal Crawford. Atlanta is in win right now mode, with need for veteran players instead of using a rookie like Teague, who played very little this season.

    Now, I was not a huge Teague fan in last years draft, and I still have doubts about him long term. But he is lightning quick, and he is just 22 years old, and he is a native son and graduate of Pike High School. If any deal is to be made with the Hawks, then Teague would be a man we'd want to include in a swap.

    If the Hawks lose Joe Johnson, they could be forced to make some other moves to try and replace that talent. It wouldn't be the entirety of what they'd look to do, but one wonders how a deal centered around Rush for Teague might look to them....obviously there would need to be some additions to make a deal like that make sense, but that would be the framework perhaps....again, just a thought.

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    PG Ramon Sessions completely didn't fit in Kurt Rambis system up in Minnesota, and with the Twolves very much point guard heavy, it would only make sense if they tried to make a deal this summer involving their glut of guards.

    Sessions is just 23 years old currently, has put up good numbers as a young player, has good size and scoring ability, and is signed long term to a somewhat friendly contract. Predictably somewhat unhappy it is thought in Minneapolis, the trash fire that is the Twolves franchise may be in the mood to make a move. The Timberwolves need everything, so it is hard to say what they might like back for Sessions, but I would think many teams will inquire about the young guard, not just us.

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    Fran Vasquez, who's rights are held by the Orlando Magic, would be an almost perfect addition to our Pacers. Vazquez is 26 years old, with a Euro contract that runs through the 2010-11 season.

    Of course I haven't flown to Europe to scout him personally, but I always do try and keep up with some of the foreign players from years past by reading about them when I can. Vasquez has become a shot blocker, rebounding, defensive force according to reports, more or less morphing into a European Tyson Chandler. The reports on draftexpress about him are very very good, as he is apparently becoming a stopper all over the floor. Blocking shots, hedging screen rolls, rebounding, and running the floor seem to be his main strengths as a player, which makes him somewhat of an anomaly in Europe. Now granted, I am reading old information there, as that update on him is now 15 months old, but at least he would seem to be a player to try and get the rights to.

    To me, on paper he seems like a great compliment to the type of player Roy Hibbert seems to be becoming. Hopefully the Pacers European scouts are all over Vazquez, and have a good read on whether the reports I am reading are accurate. If they are, any deal with Orlando should definitely include the rights to Vazquez being thrown into the mix. If the Magic were interested in TJ Ford as a backup for Jameer Nelson, the rights to Vazquez should be part of the package we demand in return.

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    It probably comes at no surprise to long time readers of mine that I am going to include PF/C Marreese Speights in this list. Speights, a 6'10 big man from Florida, is being woefully mismanaged in Philadelphia. A terrible fit besides Elton Brand and Sam Dalembert, the Sixers compounded their mistake with signing the overpriced Brand by hiring Eddie Jordan as coach last year, whose high post Princeton offense didn't fit any of their personnel.

    I still believe Speights can play and be a very effective scorer/rebounder in this league. I think his potential peaks at about an 18 and 8 guy, with good size and defensive potential. What I like about Speights the best is his efficiency with the basketball in the post, his footwork and ability to finish with touch. He also "fits" with Indiana's future as my elusive "player x".

    I'll be mentioning this "Player x" concept many times in the upcoming months. What I am meaning by that term is this : A player with the size to play center alongside Hansbrough, but who has the athleticism and talent to play power forward besides Hibbert. A "player x" is hard to find, and is something we are in desperate need of I feel as our rebuilding plan goes forward.

    Outside of a dynamic creator on the perimeter perhaps, I think a "player X" is our greatest need. I still believe Speights can be that guy, just like I did when he was drafted. There are and continue to be rumors of Speights not having the greatest attitude or work ethic out there, and if that stuff is true then it obviously would give me pause. But purely from a basketball standpoint on the floor, I think he might be a very good fit here.

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    Speaking of "Player X", I'd give up alot if we good obtain Sacramento big man Jason Thompson. Thompson isn't defending at a high level yet, which I blame the losing culture and the non emphasis of defense by coach Paul Westphal for.

    But Thompson is becoming the exact type of player we need badly. He is 6'11 250 lbs, but athletic enough I believe to play next to Roy Hibbert for the next 10 years and big enough to play next to Hansbrough as well when/if he pans out to be the player I think he can be.

    From Rider, Thompson has acclimated quickly the NBA game from an offensive standpoint, and he has an NBA body that is only getting stronger. He looks like a keeper, not an All Star level player but a guy who would fit what we need like a glove. Of course, he's be hard to obtain most likely from the Kings, but.....what if this scenario happens:

    What if the Pacers get lottery lucky and move up to the 3rd spot in the draft? Obviously at spots one and two we'd keep the picks and take either John Wall or Evan Turner. But if we got pick 3, would you include it in a package to Sacramento of some sort for right to acquire Thompson? I certainly would.....would you consider it?

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    JaVale McGee was as raw as raw could be when he left Nevada for the NBA, and I was not a fan of his when I scouted him prior to that draft.

    I think I might have been wrong.

    McGee is a fluid, athletic, jumping jack of a center that I really enjoy watching play. He reminds me of a young deer, jumping and running very well, but not really having any idea why he does it or what he is doing.

    McGee is fast, quick, and can run the floor almost better than any center in the league I think. His motor is high, his activity level is thru the roof, and even though he doesn't really understand the game that well yet, you can definitely see the potential there.

    I don't know if he projects to be a "player x", I think instead he might just be a pure center, so if you get McGee somehow I think you are committing to building your roster differently than I think Larry Bird wants to. But I really like McGee, and any potential deal with the Wizards (who have some intriguing pieces I think) needs to include the gazelle like big man from Nevada.

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    Lots of Tbird topics I am working on for the next few weeks. I had a request from one of you for a topic that I am working on (I won't say who) that I am putting together, plus a few other things I have on my mind that I am making notes on. Hopefully we can continue to get some good Pacers/hoops discussion going before the draft profiles start in the next few weeks.

    As always, the above is just my opinion.

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    FWIW, Beaubois was a 1st round pick. Dallas knows what they have and I don't think you could pry him out of Cuban's cold, dead hands.

    Sure they're in win now mode, but what player other than Granger on the Pacer roster do you think can help them "win now" anymore than Beaubois?

    Also, the biggest problem with Fran Vazquez is that he doesn't want to leave Spain to play in the NBA. It's the very reason he didn't join the Magic after he was drafted.

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    Sure they're in win now mode, but what player other than Granger on the Pacer roster do you think can help them "win now" anymore than Beaubois?
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    Hidden gems or underrated guys that I like:

    Hinrich: really good defensive player, he know how to run the offense and can shoot from outside.

    Luis Scola: He is a bit older but what can't this guy do? he is to me one of the most underrated PF's in the NBA

    Robin Lopez: I always liked this guy, he could be the perfect complement for Hibbert.

    Steve Blake: he is similar to Hinrich not as good defender but he is an underrated "floor general"

    Travis Outlaw: this guy could bring energy off the bench, good athlete, can shoot the three and finish around the rim, really underrated.

    Andres Nocioni:Hard nose defender, high energy guy who can do everything, his contract is also a plus because decrease every year.

    Glen Davis: He is overweight but everytime he gets some playing time he finds a way to score and get rebounds.

    JJ Hickson: not sure what Cleveland wants for him

    Erick Gordon:Pacers should try to see what the Clippers want for him

    Jeff Green:no way Oklahoma trade him, unless we send Hibbert there

    James Harden: we need to draft Aldrich and send him to Oklahoma for him, he is going to be a really good player.

    Channing frye:he is been playing really good this year, can shoot the three and can also play inside, he has a player option next year but I think that he can make more than that.

    Aleksandar Pavlovic: this guys is been always underrated, maybe he looked better because he was playing with Lebron

    George Hill: I wanted him two years ago, now the secret is out and SA is not going to trade him.
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    I wanted to draft Beaubois. Snag a late rounder and get him. I wanted him and saw him as a potential Paul/Rose/Deron stopper.

    Javale gets worked by Hibbert. I can see him as an Amare type role, but I don't see him defending Lopez, Horford or Howard. Hibbert can hold his own but not for an entire game.

    I wanted Speights and Chalmers...I really did....but Rush and Hibbert will do. Could you imagine getting Speights and Hibbert in the same draft?

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    Appreciate the post. A quick spin through the rosters looking for ≤ three year players I'd like your take on:

    Courtney Lee
    Earl Barron
    Rodney Carney
    Acie Law
    DJ Augustine
    Omri Casspi
    Anthony Morrow
    Anthony Randolph
    Darren Collison
    Hamed Haddadi

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    I'd love to bring in Kirk Hinrich. He's a leader and can shoot the ball well. He's a very good defender too.

    He still has a lot of gas left in his tank at 28.

    I drew up a 3-way between us, Chicago, and Phoenix.

    IND: Kirk Hinrich
    CHI: Leandro Barbosa
    PHX: Solomon Jones, Jeff Foster, '10 2nd Round Pick (IND)

    Phonix already has Jason Richardson who gets the starting SG spot and gets a lot of minutes.

    I'll add Michael Redd in. People may be doubting him, but he has the ablility to get back on track. He's a good player and he still has some more years at 30.
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    Good topic. I'll add just a couple of thoughts.

    No way we get Roddy Buckets. I think Cuban has publicly stated he's untouchable. I'd LOVE to have him though.

    I've come around a bit on Hinrich. I think he'd be an addition to our team.

    Jason Thompson is more attainable than might be thought. I've gotten impressions that the Kings don't like him for some reason. I was more impressed by his rookie season. Not sure he fits well on the Pacers.


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    One guy that's been on my hidden gem radar this year is Martel Webster. He'd be a great 3rd wing on the Pacers. His shooting %s are low, but he plays really hard on both ends and fell out of the rotation in Portland.

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    Appreciate the post. A quick spin through the rosters looking for ≤ three year players I'd like your take on:

    Courtney Lee
    Earl Barron
    Rodney Carney
    Acie Law
    DJ Augustine
    Omri Casspi
    Anthony Morrow
    Anthony Randolph
    Darren Collison
    Hamed Haddadi
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    Stud: Collison
    Potentially a stud: Randolph
    Very servicebale: Lee, Casspi, Morrow
    Potentially serviceable, but not quite there yet: Augustin
    Possibly solid 9th men: Barron, Carney
    Completely and utterly worthless: Haddadi, Law

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    I'd love to bring in Kirk Hinrich. He's a leader and can shoot the ball well. He's a very good defender too.

    He still has a lot of gas left in his tank at 28.

    I drew up a 3-way between us, Chicago, and Phoenix.

    IND: Kirk Hinrich
    CHI: Leandro Barbosa
    PHX: Solomon Jones, Jeff Foster, '10 2nd Round Pick (IND)

    Phonix already has Jason Richardson who gets the starting SG spot and gets a lot of minutes.

    I'll add Michael Redd in. People may be doubting him, but he has the ablility to get back on track. He's a good player and he still has some more years at 30.
    Hinrich is a shifty little fart. Every year during the playoffs, he looks like someone who could really break out and be a really good player. Then the next season comes around and he plays like complete crap for the better portion of the year. I don't understand that guy.

    You have been really pro-Redd lately in many of your posts. What gives? The guy has missed the past two seasons with extremely serious knee injuries, and it's not clear that he will ever be able to play at 50% of his former self. I know he would come cheap, but at this point the guy is a low-rotation spot shooter, at best.

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    Here's a list of some guys I'd consider.

    Michael Redd
    Kirk Hinrich
    Mike Conley
    Anthony Randolph
    Lou Williams
    Adam Morrison

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    Hinrich is a shifty little fart. Every year during the playoffs, he looks like someone who could really break out and be a really good player. Then the next season comes around and he plays like complete crap for the better portion of the year. I don't understand that guy.

    You have been really pro-Redd lately in many of your posts. What gives? The guy has missed the past two seasons with extremely serious knee injuries, and it's not clear that he will ever be able to play at 50% of his former self. I know he would come cheap, but at this point the guy is a low-rotation spot shooter, at best.
    Ever since Rose went to the Bulls, Hinrich's role was all over the place. From being the starting PG to playing with another PG in the starting lineup in Rose to coming off the bench. I think the Pacers would be a very good fit for him. We only have AJ who's still young and isn't ready to the nightly starting role.

    If we want a change in players, I thought Redd would be a good guy to bring in. Redd wouldn't really be a leader anyway. He'd be someone who can take some shooting pressure off of Danny and give Brandon a more comfortable role as backup. In the few games Redd played in this season, he seemed pretty good. Again we don't need him to be the team leader like he used to be. If he starts to struggle then we still have Brandon who can take the starting SG position.

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    Why?
    The SF position is the least of our problems and he hasn't gotten too many minutes in LA to show any signs of how he's been since the injury.

    He'd be a good backup to Danny or be 3rd string in the rotation.

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    Being that the contracts are somewhat similar, I wonder if Chicago might entertain a deal based around a Hinrich for Murphy? Chicago is actually one team in the league I think Murphy would be a good fit for, as Joakim Noah is a really good fit besides a player of Murphy's skills I think. Just a thought.
    I would literally jump for joy if Bird could pull off a Murphy for Hinrich trade. It would be a nice way for the Pacers to shave about $3 million off next year's payroll in the process. Chicago will definitely have the cap room to absorb such a deal. They're such a poor outside shooting team that Murphy's value would probably be higher for them than for most teams. It really wouldn't surprise me if they tried to get us to include Rush in any potential Murphy deal. He'd be a good fit between Rose and Deng since he doesn't demand the ball too much, can knock down open 3's, and plays good defense. The 2010 SG crop in free agency is pretty thin (after Joe Johnson). I wonder if the final trade wouldn't be something like Murphy & Rush for Hinrich and James Johnson.

    If we're looking at young PG's, I wonder about the availability of Eric Maynor. He's never going to be a starter in OKC. I don't know what we have that they'd want. Murphy and Ford both have skills that would fit in well on their roster, but I don't know that they're going to give up a young talent for a possible one-year tryout of a veteran bench player.

    As for Dallas, they've got a really interesting chip in Dampier's unguaranteed $13 million contract. It would make financial sense for them to just cut him. However, after losing in the first round, I wouldn't be surprised to see Cuban try and bring in some more high priced talent.
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    Here's a list of some guys I'd consider.

    Michael Redd
    Kirk Hinrich
    Mike Conley
    Anthony Randolph
    Lou Williams
    Adam Morrison
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    I'll be mentioning this "Player x" concept many times in the upcoming months. What I am meaning by that term is this : A player with the size to play center alongside Hansbrough, but who has the athleticism and talent to play power forward besides Hibbert. A "player x" is hard to find, and is something we are in desperate need of I feel as our rebuilding plan goes forward.

    Outside of a dynamic creator on the perimeter perhaps, I think a "player X" is our greatest need.
    The obvious question would be whether there is a "Player X" that maybe available in the draft. If Udoh measures out to be 6'10"....could he be that guy?

    As for the list, at first....the only player that I think could be obtainable is Hinrich....but I'm not sure they have the necessary depth at the SG spot where they could afford to part with Hinrich anymore. If he could be had for Murphy, I'd be cool with taking on his contract.
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    Back on topic, good post tbird. Though I question the availability of most of those guys. If any of us pay enough attention to notice their talent/potential, so do their GMs.

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    Sweet. Messageboards work better when people feel like they can participate.

    As a note for that list, it's not my dream/watch/anything list, just a random selection of new-ish players I'd like to know more about.

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    Default Re: Tbird analysis: Hidden gems/under the radar trade targets for the summer of 2010

    The problem with some of these under-the-radar guys is that the secret is out on most of them and that they're not as under-the-radar as you might think.

    Guys like Eric Gordon, Jeff Green, Ibaka, Hinrich, etc. are well known and regarded within NBA circles.

    Look back at some of the better Pacers trades and you'll notice a theme:

    -- Dale Davis for Jermaine O'Neal/Joe Kleine trade. Pacers grabbed JO who was averaging what 4/3 a game? JO was young, but Portland had such a great bench that he was at the end of it.

    -- Jalen Rose, Best and Richardson for Brad Miller, Artest, Ollie and Mercer. Pacers were able to grab a guy like Artest and Miller -- both of whom were still rather young for a guy like Rose who was averaging 20+ per game.

    In both of these trades, Walsh was able to view raw talent and knew/hoped that these players would fit within the Pacers. We obviously know what Artest later did, but Artest was 22 when he came to the Pacers and Miller was 25 whereas Rose was 29. JO 21 when he was traded and Dale was 31.

    I think the same thing is possible in making a trade this summer. I think you'll see teams like Dallas, Denver, Charlotte, Chicago, etc. all teams that were eliminated fairly early look to add that additional piece. Maybe they view a guy like Murphy as that piece? Surely there are a few players who aren't doing much currently, but could be that solid player down the road.

    I look at a guy like Jason Thompson or Donte Greene in Sacramento, Speights in Philly, etc. as guys who I think could emerge and become pretty good players. I think other teams would like at our roster and see a guy like Price, McRoberts, etc. as guys who are and becoming solid NBA players.

    Surely there are other players, but the Pacers aren't going to win a title next year. It's time to start looking at some younger players and maybe even the D-League to find some guys with our limited funds available.

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    TBird.

    I like your player X concept. I wouldn't mind trying to acquire that player soon even though, yes, an effective perimeter/creator is a greater need. That said, I still have hopes that AJ can be our perimeter playmaker.

    The jury is still out on AJ, but I think he has the potential. What I especially like about him is he is clutch down the stretch. But he has a long way to go on defense.

    I like Heinrich a lot and would love to have him. But why do that when AJ may be the better player? And it only gives JOB another reason to slow down the process of determining whether AJ is our guy.

    Come to think of it, Foster kind of works as a player X for us. He has a year left in the tank, if that. But, I'm wondering, how often did JOB take advantage of a Foster/Hibbert or Foster/Hansborough combo when he had the opportunity? And how well did it work?

    I've always liked Barbosa. Given my desire to wait and see how good AJ will be, it would be nice to have a real scorer/creator in the line up. Danny is just a bit less than hugely effective in that role, imo.

    Maybe we could get a Barbosa-like player at the two for next year. If that player is killing us on the other end of the floor, we bring in Rush. If the scorer/creator at the two doesn't work, and AJ isn't looking like the future starter at point, we take all our chips in 2011 and get that top player at point guard.

    Can we get rid of JOB first? I can't think very clearly until that happens.
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    Players I would be interested in are:

    Speights... AND yes the Pacers could have drafted both him and Hibbert.

    Ramon Sessions... I liked him and campaigned for him when he was a Buck.

    Courtney Lee... I wanted him, Speights, and Chalmers in that draft. I still do.

    Donte Greene... I've said all season I'd love to have him in a Pacers uni.

    Eric Maynor... I liked him in the draft, and I'd like to see him in a Pacers uni.

    Ibaka... caught my eye about half way thru the season.

    Anthony Randolph... love his length and athleticism.

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    Chalmers

    Henderson

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