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    With the combine almost done here in INDY I wanted to begin the discussion on the NFL draft. I realize that not all of us are colts fans so feel free to chime in on prospects that you hope to acquire as well.

    CBS sports has a useful link to look at draft projections. You can search by postion or by overall projected.
    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/p...kings/TSX/2010


    Here is a list of free agents on the colts.
    Indianapolis Colts
    Potential UFAs: ILB Gary Brackett, PK Matt Stover.
    Potential RFAs: WR Hank Baskett*, S Antoine Bethea*, S Melvin Bullitt, OG Daniel Federkeil, CB Aaron Francisco*, OLB Tyjuan Hagler*, CB Marlin Jackson*, CB Tim Jennings*, DT Antonio Johnson, OT Charlie Johnson*, OLB Freddy Keiaho*, CB ­Anthony Madison*, DT Daniel Muir, CB T.J. Rushing*.


    I think with our first round pick the Colts will select a offensive tackle. I wouldn't mind resigning Charlie Johnson for a good price but its obvious that we need a upgrade at that position. Offensive tackles I could see the colts drafting: Charles Brown USC or Rodger Saffold in the second round.

    I could also see Polian going after a safety, middle linebacker, defensive end or trading out of the first round in order to obtain more picks if no one in the first round warrants the pick.

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    I imagine Brackett will be back for four years or so. I think they're OK with that.

    I'd be surprised if they didn't take a linebacker in the middle rounds. Maybe two if they don't have long-term plans for Session.

    I think OT and RDE are the biggest long-term needs for impact players. Those should be the early picks.

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    I still think that DT is the Colts biggest need and this draft is stacked, and I mean stacked at DT. I bet at least 5 go in the first round. Both Dan Williams from Tennessee or Terrence Cody from Alabama would be an awesome get and both could be there at the end of rd. 1. For the Colts to look at an OT there, I think that either Bruce Campbell from Maryland or by some miracle, Mike Iupati from Idaho would have to fall to them, and neither is likely. Usually, you can look at the Colts roster and say hey, they definitely don't need this, and then they promptly go pick one. If I were to say they definitely didn't need something this year, it would be wide receiver. Hey, maybe they get lucky and Golden Tate is the guy that drops to the end of the 1st. If that happens, he would fill a need because he can run after the catch as well as anyone and is also a top flight returner. I don't think that's likely but they would think about it if he happened to be there. Other than that there are several good safeties and CB's as well. They could really go in just about any direction but QB in the first.

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    The biggest need is a pass rushing (or more importantly a disruptive) DT and that's if Muir and Johnson are still resigned.

    Safety could be a concern based on Bullitt and Bethea's return, and more importantly Sander's health.

    Sadly O-Line might be the biggest need because parts of the line aren't getting any younger, and the last two picks in Ugoh and Pollack have been busts so far.

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    I still think that DT is the Colts biggest need and this draft is stacked, and I mean stacked at DT. I bet at least 5 go in the first round. Both Dan Williams from Tennessee or Terrence Cody from Alabama would be an awesome get and both could be there at the end of rd. 1. For the Colts to look at an OT there, I think that either Bruce Campbell from Maryland or by some miracle, Mike Iupati from Idaho would have to fall to them, and neither is likely. Usually, you can look at the Colts roster and say hey, they definitely don't need this, and then they promptly go pick one. If I were to say they definitely didn't need something this year, it would be wide receiver. Hey, maybe they get lucky and Golden Tate is the guy that drops to the end of the 1st. If that happens, he would fill a need because he can run after the catch as well as anyone and is also a top flight returner. I don't think that's likely but they would think about it if he happened to be there. Other than that there are several good safeties and CB's as well. They could really go in just about any direction but QB in the first.
    I understand what you are saying but the colts picks in the first 2 rounds have been sort of no-brainers. You had a often injuried Addai who came off a terrible year so they went out and picked one of the most productive backs still on the draft board. Then in the second round they move up to pick a DT which again was a glaring need.

    The previous year they select Mike Pollak because Saturdays contract was coming up and he was getting long in the tooth.

    In 2007 they select Gonzo as a result of losing their slot reciever Stokley and moved up to draft Ugoh because Tarik Glen was getting old.

    For the past 3 years you could see the Colts drafting a particular postion to address a obvious need. Also the offense for the most part gets the priority.

    THe positions that I see them passing on is WR and CB. They defiantly have to look at OT, DE, LB, DT, FS. If everyone is resigned which is highly likely I would rank the Colts draft priority in that order.

    The late round pick that I would love the colts to reach on is Trindon Holiday from LSU. He is a return specialist, RB, WR and he runs a 4.27. He will probably go in the 6th round and that would be a ideal pick for a guy that is of the Darren Sproles mold. Of course Al Davis will probably draft him in the 5th round which will **** me off but who knows?

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    The late round pick that I would love the colts to reach on is Trindon Holiday from LSU. He is a return specialist, RB, WR and he runs a 4.27. He will probably go in the 6th round and that would be a ideal pick for a guy that is of the Darren Sproles mold. Of course Al Davis will probably draft him in the 5th round which will **** me off but who knows?
    Maybe players should tank their 40 times to keep from becoming Oakland Raiders. Don't want to play for the guy whose cracker has lost its cheese? Run a 4.5.

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    I think the Colts will draft an offensive lineman in the first round. This years class is pretty deep defensively and especially deep on the DLine front. I could see Dan Williams, but I expect them to wait til the 3rd or 4th round and snag a guy like Jeff Owens or Geno Atkins. (Both excellent interior linemen when it comes to collapsing the pocket)

    I'd like to see the Pats go after a good OLB pass rusher. A lot of mocks have them snagging Brandon Graham but it wouldn't surprise me to see them do something completely unexpected (draft a different position, trade up/down, grab another pass rusher). I also think they need some big time help at WR or RB. This will probably be Randy Moss's last year with the Pats and I don't see Welker making the huge impact he has traditionally had coming off a torn ACL. I also don't like the running back by committee of old/ineffective guys the Pats have used the past 3 years. Would be nice to see them pick up a guy who can carry the rock 20+ times a game.
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    I think we take RB Matthews or Best whichever they rate higher. Addai is gone and Brown was often injured last season.

    (LB) Spikes Florida is also a possibility I also like Graham Wolverines

    Everson Griffen is my wish to drop to them but highly unlikely

    This draft is deep @ DT & TE. I think Robinson and Tamme have to be upgraded. They Stink

    Polian should not pick a lineman in the first round. see Pollack and Ugoh (BUSTS) No need to reach for an OL when they are not quality. The Colts are in the position where they can draft best player available DT, LB, RB are more glaring needs.

    I am not a fan of the Thursday Night First round.

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    I think we take RB Matthews or Best whichever they rate higher. Addai is gone and Brown was often injured last season.
    Why do you think Addai is gone? He has one more year on his contract and he will be a RFA in 2011. IMO, The colts will play this year out to see if Addai is worth resigning and if Brown is capable of handling 20+ carriers.

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    Polian should not pick a lineman in the first round. see Pollack and Ugoh (BUSTS) No need to reach for an OL when they are not quality.
    As far as I know the only lineman Polian has drafted in the first round was Freeney. Pollack and Ugoh were second rounders. Of course both of those guys have been MIA but I wouldn't call them bust just yet.

    LB Spikes sounds good until you look at his forty time. The guy is just too slow to drop back into coverage. Even our DT/DE Dawson is as fast as he is and I sure wouldn't want him covering a TE or the middle of the field.

    We tendered Charlie Johnson with a 2nd rounder and I am sure if we are ever going to have a running game to the left we will need to upgrade our OT position. Personally I think we have become too predictable in our running game and if defenses are ever going to play us honestly we will have to be able to run left once again.

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    The past few years I've been hoping we'd draft a return specialist... Rushing and Simpson just aren't getting the job done.

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    We traded a first rounder for Ugoh. He is a bust. We signed a FA from KC and cut Lilja. Heard the Colts are trying to go bigger on the OL (taller & heavier). The Colts are in a fortunate position somebody may drop or a team may be willing to trade up for a player they covet.

    I think Colt Mcoy is available in the second round.

    Face it nobody has any idea what they Colts are going to do a month b 4 the draft with their top pick. I would not mind acquiring more picks and picking up Jordan Shipley WR Texas or Lefeavour QB CMU if they are available late in the third round. I hope one is available because Shipley is just the man to help our special teams return game; best in the draft after Spiller b/c Devine didn't go pro. Lefeavour is very smart and already better than Painter.

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    Colts pick up a DT/DE Skolnitsky from the redskins. If you haven't heard of him there is a reason. He is as fast as spikes though.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...im-skolnitsky/

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    Default The 2010 NFL Draft Thread

    When:
    First Round: Thursday, April 22, 7:30 p.m. ET
    Second & Third Rounds: Friday, April 23, 6 ET
    Fourth through Seventh Rounds: Saturday, April 24, 10 a.m. ET

    Where: Radio City Music Hall, New York

    The Colts' selections as of now:

    Round 1, Pick 31 (31)
    Round 2, Pick 31 (63)
    Round 3, Pick 30 (94)
    Round 4, Pick 31 (129)
    Round 5, Pick 31 (162)
    Round 6, No Selection (Pat McAfee)
    Round 7, Pick 31 (238)
    Round 7, Pick 33 (240) (Compensatory selection)
    Round 7, Pick 39 (246) (Compensatory selection)

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    Previous Drafts:

    1998

    1 1 Peyton Manning
    2 32 Jerome Pathon
    3 71 E.G. Green
    4 93 Steve McKinney
    5 135 Antony Jordan
    7 190 Aaron Taylor
    7 231 Cory Gaines

    1999

    1 4 Edgerrin James
    2 36 Mike Peterson
    3 63 Brandon Burlsworth
    4 96 Paul Miranda
    5 138 Brad Scioli
    7 210 Hunter Smith
    7 250 Corey Terry

    2000

    1 28 Rob Morris
    2 59 Marcus Washington
    3 91 David Macklin
    4 122 Josh Williams
    5 138 Matt Johnson
    7 235 Rob Renes
    7 238 Rodregis Brooks

    2001

    1 30 Reggie Wayne
    2 37 Idrees Bashir
    3 91 Cory Bird
    4 118 Ryan Diem
    5 152 Raymond Walls
    6 193 Jason Doering
    7 220 Rick DeMulling

    2002

    1 11 Dwight Freeney
    2 42 Larry Tripplett
    3 74 Joseph Jefferson
    4 106 David Thornton
    6 182 David Pugh
    6 183 James Lewis
    6 204 Brian Allen
    7 220 Josh Mallard

    2003

    1 24 Dallas Clark
    2 58 Mike Doss
    3 90 Donald Strickland
    4 122 Steve Sciullo
    5 138 Robert Mathis
    5 162 Keyon Whiteside
    6 198 Cato June
    6 208 Makoa Freitas

    2004

    2 44 Bob Sanders
    3 68 Ben Hartsock
    3 69 Gilbert Gardner
    4 107 Kendyll Pope
    4 125 Jason David
    5 141 Jake Scott
    6 173 Von Hutchins
    6 193 Jim Sorgi
    7 229 David Kimball

    2005

    1 29 Marlin Jackson
    2 60 Kelvin Hayden
    3 92 Vincent Burns
    4 129 Dylan Gandy
    4 135 Matt Giordano
    5 148 Jonathan Welsh
    5 165 Robert Hunt
    5 173 Tyjuan Hagler
    6 202 Dave Rayner
    7 243 Anthony Davis

    2006

    1 30 Joseph Addai
    2 62 Tim Jennings
    3 94 Freddie Keiaho
    5 162 Michael Toudouze
    6 199 Charlie Johnson
    6 207 Antoine Bethea
    7 238 T.J. Rushing

    2007

    1 32 Anthony Gonzalez
    2 42 Tony Ugoh
    3 95 Dante Hughes
    3 98 Quinn Pitcock
    4 131 Brannon Condren
    4 136 Clint Session
    5 169 Roy Hall
    5 173 Michael Coe
    7 242 Keyunta Dawson

    2008

    2 59 Mike Pollak
    3 93 Philip Wheeler
    4 127 Jacob Tamme
    5 161 Marcus Howard
    6 196 Tom Santi
    6 201 Steve Justice
    6 202 Mike Hart
    6 205 Pierre Garcon
    7 236 Jamey Richard

    2009

    1 27 Donald Brown
    2 56 Fili Moala
    3 92 Jerraud Powers
    4 127 Austin Collie
    4 136 Terrance Taylor
    6 201 Curtis Painter
    7 222 Patrick McAfee
    7 236 Jaimie Thomas

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    O-line ............ secondary.

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    Alright, with Howard Mudd retiring, it looks to be that we are trying to bulk up the offensive line, which I am fine with, but as long as it doesn't hurt the pass-protection we have. We are not the best running team in the league, and while I would love to run better, I don't want us to go away from our passing when the league seems to be evolving into a much more passing-oriented game.

    Now, I know we aren't going to do anything like that as long as Peyton Manning is our QB, but what I am trying to say is I want our pass-protection to continue to be top-notch.

    This team is pretty set, and deep, but a big reason we struggled so much in the Super Bowl was the fact that Dwight Freeney was not 100% and not even close to 90%, and Brees kept wearing down Dwight and the pass-rush, which, when the pass-rush isn't healthy, the entire defense struggles. I'd like to see us draft some big DT's, just definitely draft defensive-wise. I'm no college football guy, so I'll just leave it at that.

    On the offensive side of the ball, I think we're pretty good, we're hopefully going to have a healthy Gonzo, added in the mix with Dallas, Pierre, Reggie and Joe and Donald. Back to the defense, I also hold out hope that Bob can return to form, which is just an added bonus to our squad. Special Teams, you draft a kicker if you find a good one, but if not, Adam, if healthy, (again, doesn't it always seem like it's always about health?) he can be our guy for a few more years I would assume.

    To sum up my feelings:

    Defense: Draft a big DT, maybe see what kind of CB's are out there, since we just lost Marlin Jackson.

    Offense: Draft guys for the future here, we're pretty much set on offense. Some people even suggested teams such as the Colts or Patriots to draft Tebow, so he wouldn't have to come in and perform immediately. Don't know how I'd feel about that.

    Special Teams: Look into a kicker for the future, and I think we've pretty much got a great punter, in Pat. So we look for Adam's replacement.
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    Unofficial Trade Value Chart:
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    Note: Compensatory selections cannot be traded, so don't even try it!

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    If I had to pick an order of importance ...

    1. Rush DE -- Future success can only be maintained if we maintain a pass rush
    2. LOT -- Obviously.
    3A. OLB depth/future replacement
    3B. CB depth/future replacement
    5. DT -- If they're really worried about Moala being worthless
    6. TE depth/future replacement -- Tamme, Santi, Robinson could all be gone in the next 365
    7. O-Line depth/project
    8. QB -- If they don't like Painter after what they've seen
    9. Returner -- Everyone wants one except the Colts FO, so I slot it last

    Of no importance in draft: RB, WR, S, MLB

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    I'll already started a thread but who cares.

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    I'll already started a thread but who cares.
    Looks like it was pushed back to the second page, I didn't even remember you starting one, we should merge them or something.....
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    Threads merged.

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    I know mock drafts never nail the Colts' pick, but I think Pouncey from Florida seems likely. He can play OG and Center, so if he pans out he can fill a hole at G the next season or two then take over for Saturday when he retires. That was the plan with Pollack, but it's looking like that's not going to pan out.

    I think the Colts' first 4 picks will be 1 to 2 o-linemen, 1 to 2 d-linemen, and maybe a cornerback. That said, Polian tends to draft best player available, so we'll see. I hope we grab a kicker in the 6th round or so. Last year we traded for McAfee to be our punter of the future, which was a great decision. He was excellent all year and great at kick-offs. Picking up a kicker that can consistently hit from beyond 40 would be nice.

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    I'll already started a thread but who cares.
    Sorry.

    I remembered your thread, but I thought it was more of a free agency thread...

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    Kicker Adam V makes too much money and Stover or Gramattica seem to be FA ever year. I would rather get a WR or RB in the later rounds. I really hope we go DEF DEF DEF TE RB.

    We have signed 2 OL b 4 the draft. I would love for the Colts to lay their hands on Lagerette Blount in the 5th Round. I feel he would be a steal. Colts build RB via draft. If he doesnt pan out fine the Colts did cut a 3rd pick last season DT from Mich.

    I feel we need to upgrade LB dramatically Wheeler is ok but no other team is worried about him I understand the feeling to go OL OL but Polian is not tipping his hat. I want more speed out of the LB corps and have been wondering why Indy never drafts a LB in the early rounds for years.

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    Sorry.

    I remembered your thread, but I thought it was more of a free agency thread...
    Thats fine. I am just glad we aren't talking about Jake Delhomme being cut or Bret Favre.

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