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    Default The official: "Pacers think more of Brewer than most of you"

    surprise surprise.
    From the "universally respected here" Mike Brown
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    The team has suffered through 59 turnovers, 21 from point guards Jamison Brewer and Rashad Wright. Brewer also has struggled through 1 of 11 shooting.

    “Jamison is a defensive specialist,” Brown said. “He’s almost like the Ben Wallace of point guards. He can really change the outcome of a basketball game with his defensive ability, his athleticism, his length, his ability to rebound and his ability to push the ball. Having said that, he has to continue to get better on the offensive end, in terms of controlling the tempo and knowing when to take control of the team.


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    “This summer league is great for him because it’s been a learning experience. He’s done a heck of a job trying to learn. Part of it is he’s playing with some inexperienced players now. He’s got to figure out, ‘I’m the guy, this is my team, how do I make those guys better?’ More than anything, his learning curve of doing that is the problem with the turnovers.”

    Brown said Wright, a second-round pick from Georgia, initially struggled to adapt to the physical nature of the game but showed signs of progress in the second half of the Utah game.

    “He came in and took control of the team, took control of the situation, was aggressive, was strong with the basketball and didn’t back down from anybody,” Brown said. “Like Brewer, these are young guys and they just need floor time.”

    Two injuries have affected the team. Shooting guard Luke Recker scored six points in four minutes in the Dallas game but left with a pulled hamstring. He stayed with the team and is expected to return to action this week, possibly as soon as tonight. Small forward Joe Bunn suffered a high ankle sprain and opted to leave the team. He was replaced on the roster by center Sani Ibrahim, who was with the Pacers during their rookie and free agent camp last week.

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    Default Re: The official:

    What do you expect him to say?

    "Jamison Brewer's a terrible player. I can't imagine why we brought him in."
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    I'm still looking for the glowing vote of confidence. I saw nothing that would change anyone's opinion either way.

    It was a puff piece. As Anthem said, what did you expect him to say?

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    The only reason that I would see to keep Brewer would be exactly as Brown stated.... as a defensive specialist.

    But even then, during the regular season would he ever be able to get off the injured list.

    The catch-22 is that Brewer is not needed during the regular season. Yet he is the perfect player to be a 3rd PG in the playoffs and bring off the bench for 3-4 minute stretches once or twice a game to shut down a hot player like Rip Hamilton.

    But do you save a roster slot for a player like Brewer that may have 50 minutes of use the entire season?

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    I don't think the summer league will determine either of these guys future with the team anyway. Jamison Brewer and Rashad Wright will both be in training camp and play in the exhibition season and that will decide who they keep.

    Harrison and James Jones are guarantees to be on the final roster. Brewer and Rashad could conceivably both make the team if no other trades are made. Wright would just be taking Anderson's spot and Harrison taking Primoz's.
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    From what I saw last night...Brewer would be lucky to get a Training Camp invitation!
    ...Still "flying casual"
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    Well, I'd have to admit that the Pacers don't think much of me at all. My basketball IQ is OK, I don't get rattled in the big moments, but I have no court vision because at 5'9" I can't see over Boomer.
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    Roaming I am not sure if you watched the same game I did. Yes Brewer is no Tinsley and his skills at running the team are down arround AJ's level.

    But his defense is incredible. There was a play where he ran to the corner and made an ill advised pass that got picked off but he stayed with the guy and stole the ball right back. He made a ton of incredible defensive plays last night. Also his rebounding is extremely good for a pg.

    And as far as Rashard Wright. ed:

    Siggy turned the ball over because the defense of the other team did what would have been a violation in a real NBA game. Anyway he turned it over on a 5 second count. So they put Wright in to inbound the ball and he threw it right into the hands of one of the other teams players for a layup.

    Now I will say he had flashes of very very good passing. For that alone I would be willing to see him as the 4th pg.

    The guys who really stood out were PB (he kicked Harrisons @ss) and James Jones. Man that kid has a sweet looking jumper. Brewer and James Jones looked to be the only people out there for the Pacers who had any clue at all. Harrison is fat and gets winded easy but plays pretty well at the start of quarters.

    Oh and Reuben bountme-bounje (I know I am spelling it wrong I just dont care) man he sucked so bad I wanted to throw a basketball at his head.

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    But do you save a roster slot for a player like Brewer that may have 50 minutes of use the entire season?
    We practically did the same thing when we picked up Tim Hardaway for the final 10 regular season games.

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    No one is complaining about Brewer's defense or speed or rebounding and those were the areas where Brown complimented him.

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    BREWER IS PLAYING AGAINST SUMMER LEAGUERS. Yes i meant all caps. The guy is absolutely horrible. His defense is ok, i wouldnt say that he is great. His ability to run the team is a -0, nada, el zippo. I dont see how he will make this team. Oh i forgot he has no jumpshot whatsoever. ugghhhh


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    What do you expect him to say?

    "Jamison Brewer's a terrible player. I can't imagine why we brought him in."
    He didn't have to say anything.

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    The only reason that I would see to keep Brewer would be exactly as Brown stated.... as a defensive specialist.

    But even then, during the regular season would he ever be able to get off the injured list.

    The catch-22 is that Brewer is not needed during the regular season. Yet he is the perfect player to be a 3rd PG in the playoffs and bring off the bench for 3-4 minute stretches once or twice a game to shut down a hot player like Rip Hamilton.

    But do you save a roster slot for a player like Brewer that may have 50 minutes of use the entire season?

    Exactly right. ANd yes, if that's your 12th man and he CAN be valuable during the playoffs, that's a HUGE thing.
    Name any other 12th man that would get off the bench?
    Let Artest start the offense and let Brewer do what he does.
    I've never said I think the guy should be starting.

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    No one is complaining about Brewer's defense or speed or rebounding and those were the areas where Brown complimented him.
    MOST here think his offense is so bad as to override his defensive abilities. Most don't seem to realize HOW good he is on defense. To me his D is good enough that if we get nothing on O, it's liveable.

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    No one is complaining about Brewer's defense or speed or rebounding and those were the areas where Brown complimented him.
    MOST here think his offense is so bad as to override his defensive abilities. Most don't seem to realize HOW good he is on defense. To me his D is good enough that if we get nothing on O, it's liveable. MAINLY, because we DO have Artest to initiate, which he does now with AJ in ANYWAY!!

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    BREWER IS PLAYING AGAINST SUMMER LEAGUERS. Yes i meant all caps. The guy is absolutely horrible. His defense is ok, i wouldnt say that he is great. His ability to run the team is a -0, nada, el zippo. I dont see how he will make this team. Oh i forgot he has no jumpshot whatsoever. ugghhhh
    Then you don't know defense.

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    So basically, Jamison is Jeff Foster trapped in a point guard's body. Which is weird because Jeff used to be a point guard in high school until he turned into a center's body.
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    Teh 12th man never plays in the playoffs. Only when a team is desperate for a win. And I would hate to believe this is a team. I assure you he wouldn't make the playoff roster.

    And his offense IS so bad that it negates his defense. It's just horrid. Just bad.
    Don't ask Marvin Harrison what he did during the bye week. "Batman never told where the Bat Cave is," he explained.

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    Teh 12th man never plays in the playoffs. Only when a team is desperate for a win. And I would hate to believe this is a team. I assure you he wouldn't make the playoff roster.
    At some point, you're just going to have to accept that the Pacers ARE a team.


    I meant to say "I'd hate to believe this is a team that relies on the 12th man in the playoffs"
    Don't ask Marvin Harrison what he did during the bye week. "Batman never told where the Bat Cave is," he explained.

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    I know good defense, but like someone else said why keep a player who is not going to play more than 60 minutes on the team, just to play spot duties in the playoffs. I would rather go with Wright or Brian Brown someone who could get there own shot if need be. Brewer looked like a chicken with his head cut off last night.


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    You're so evil Btown...


    Don't ask Marvin Harrison what he did during the bye week. "Batman never told where the Bat Cave is," he explained.

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    Teh 12th man never plays in the playoffs. Only when a team is desperate for a win.
    Which is why he would be a uniquely valuable 12th man.

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    Not for the Pacers.
    Don't ask Marvin Harrison what he did during the bye week. "Batman never told where the Bat Cave is," he explained.

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    The Lowgators will think highly of him this season too.

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    Sorry Ragner, I just don't buy a reason for him to even be invited to training camp. Ok, so he did D up some summer campers...Not enough!!! Let see:

    Can't pass
    Can't shoot
    Can barely dribble
    But excels at defense against summer campers

    All the areas of his game that we thought would improve with being on the bench for 3 years have gone strait to hell! I wouldn't be so down on the guy if he improved a little, but from what I seen with my own eyes...HE LOOKED WORSE THEN HE DID WHEN HE WAS A ROOKIE! If he was a project, I would have to say the experiment failed and give the spot to someone else that might take better advantage of the oppertunity I just don't see a reason for this guy to waste anymore of the Pacer's time or money.

    ...Still "flying casual"
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