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    Default Question about "the defensive specialist"

    In the beginning of the season everybody was talking about what kind of defensive specialist DJ was going to be and how tough he was going to make this team, in the PD party I told everybody that I tought he was overrated and that he was not going to change anything.

    What could we say about him? is he overrated? I see him playing D againts big time players and I don't see the defensive stopper everybody was talking about, Rush is by far the best defender on the team, DJ is maybe the second best, what do you guys think?

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    So he's overrated if he's not the best? More choices needed here.

    He's the second-best wing defender on the Pacers. He should never play the 4 under any circumstances, and generally not the 3. We've been misusing the guy.

    He wasn't a bad pickup. He's a high-energy scrapper good for short minutes. That's not a bad thing for a couple mil per year.
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    I understand, the thing is like to me is that they sold us this guy like a defensive specialist ala R Bell and Bruce Bowen, is kind of like the time the told us that they were looking for one of the best shooters in the NBA and came back with Diener and the other Rush.

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    I actually tend to agree that we misuse him a lot. He is a phenomenal perimeter defender at the 2 spot, and can in certain situations guard the 1 or 3. I see people make a big deal about the times a player like Carmello goes off for a big night against DJ.......Carmello is 6'8" 240lbs to DJ's 6'5" 210lbs.........and by no means should he ever be guarding the PF spot unless we are playing maybe the Warriors. I do think that Rush is easily our best defender, but that doesnt mean that DJ isnt a nice defensive piece to the puzzle.....especially when you consider how many missing pieces we have to the proverbial puzzle.

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    I understand, the thing is like to me is that they sold us this guy like a defensive specialist ala R Bell and Bruce Bowen, is kind of like the time the told us that they were looking for one of the best shooters in the NBA and came back with Diener and the other Rush.
    He's a very good defender, but he did come in with very high expectations for D. Rush is better than DJ, but we all need to give Rush credit rather than rip on DJ so much. Our problem, btw, is not wing defense as much as it is interior D. We have a weak middle with Roy and Troy which makes it very, very difficult to defend the perimeter.

    BTW, this is why we play much better with Granger at the 4. With Rush and DJ on the wing and Granger in the paint, we actually play pretty good D. I don't think that's the configuration anyone really wants, but it puts this team in the best position it can be to win.

    I seriously think people underestimate how bad the combination of Roy and Troy is on defense. Goodness, when you put Dunleavy and TJ out there too, our record should surprise no one.
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    We definitely do use him the wrong way. I agree with all of the posts above me. He destroyed CP3, Jason Terry, and Kobe Bryant in the playoffs last year, but we've only used Dahntay to defend Kobe this season and no CP3 or anyone else that he should be guarding. I get tired of seeing Dahntay being forced to guard Melo when we play the Nuggets as imo, he should be guarding Billups instead if anything. I will say that his offense has been very nice this season showing that he can score on midrange jumpers and he is not afraid to drive to the basket for contact or the hoop, or both. I hope he gets better on the free-throw percentage, but I really like the signing. For the money we spent on him, I think it was a pretty good signing. He also is a good vocal player for the team who doesn't complain about his minutes, plus he knows O'Brien is a complete idiot and needs to be gone ASAP, so that is a huge plus in itself.

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    Yeah what you guys said, it's ridiculous how everyone on this board knows WTF is up and our coach can't figure it out...

    He is misused by our _____ coach. Who seems to have no idea about his player's strengths and weaknesses. DJ is awesome when he is on a smaller SG or a ball hog PG.

    When our ______ coach puts him on bigger guys like Lebron or Carmello, his qualities don't show. Which is quickness and strength on smaller guards.

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    Exactly.

    Not to mention, DJones figured out very quickly that if he doesn't score, he won't play. So he puts a lot of energy into scoring, that he could be putting into being that defensive specialist..because if he doesn't..he doesn't get to play.

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    hes a good defender, but he cant make up for the shortcomings of our bigmens inability to do anything productive on the defensive end.

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    He's not our best defender but he's our 2nd best...not too shabby at all. As noted above, he should never be defending Carmelo and LeBron and probably shouldn't be put on most SF's.
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    His teammates have been quoted saying he really brings the mentality and leads the team with it.

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    I basically agree with everything that has already been said.

    Also, I will add that it is still no accident that Denver basically let him go because of the frequent mistakes he makes on both ends of the floor that actually hinder the overall team defense and offensive flow, which became more apparent as the year progressed here. Maybe we can talk Charlotte into taking him with Ford instead of Rush during the summer?

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    He's a good on the ball defender of players his size and smaller.

    But he's got plenty of limitations at both ends of the court other than that. Many of those are between his ears, and many of those are also a lack of fundamentals (at least NBA-quality fundamentals).

    He's a ninth-man caliber player. As is typical for that, he does a couple of things well and has many weaknesses.

    In that role, I'd rather see a more complete player that plays within the system and sacrifices parts of their game than a one- (or two-) dimensional player.
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    Default Re: Question about "the defensive specialist"

    Quote Originally Posted by vnzla81 View Post
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    I understand, the thing is like to me is that they sold us this guy like a defensive specialist ala R Bell and Bruce Bowen, is kind of like the time the told us that they were looking for one of the best shooters in the NBA and came back with Diener and the other Rush.
    Can you clarify here?

    Are you suggesting that TPTB touted Inferno as being similiar to Raja Bell or Bruce Bowen where he was brought in to be a defensive stopper?

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    Are you suggesing that Inferno was brought in to do something similiar to what Raja Bell and Bruce Bowen ( specifically ) did very well ( as in be a defensive stopper AND hit 3pt shots )?

    My hope is that Inferno was brought in to be a Defensive Role Player ONLY and not one that would have been counted on to hit a 3pt shot.

    In this system, I'd say that it would be nice to have a Bruce Bowen / Raja Bell type Wing Player that could not only defend the perimeter but also was a very solid 3pt shooter. The problem is that it's a pretty well known fact that Inferno was never a good 3pt shooter nor really a Player that wanted to take too many 3pt shots.

    Why Inferno even takes any shot beyond the key ( much less attempting any 3pt shot ) is not playing to his strengths and making him less effective when he's on the floor. As Anthem said....he's a SG perimeter role-Player that could be counted on to bring some energy, defense and "drive to the hoop" offense for 15-20+ mpg when properly used.
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    I seriously think the Coaching Staff SERIOUSLY underestimate how bad the combination of Roy and Troy is on defense. Goodness, when you put Dunleavy and TJ out there too, our record should surprise no one.
    Fixed.

    Everyone here has been preaching this since last season. We all know how bad a Hibbert/Murphy Frontcourt looks like...much less one that has Murphy as the Center.
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