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  • You would rather have Patterson.

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  • You would rather have Monroe.

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    wow Patterson 9-9 in the game with 22 pts 7:50 to go in the game, anyone watching it that can report on his play?
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    Report: Monroe to stay in school one more year.

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    Monroe Will Return To Georgetown For Junior Season

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    Greg Monroe told the media that he will return to Georgetown for his junior season, bypassing the 2010 NBA Draft where he is assured of being a first round pick.

    "I'm ready to go back and see how I can help my team next year," he said.

    Georgetown coach John Thompson III isn't convinced.
    "You know, I think that he's going to sit and make that decision as time goes on right here," he said.
    I'd probably put him right behind the fab four on my wish-list, so needless to say I'll be very disappointed if he stays.

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    nbadraft.net compares

    Patterson to Buck Williams

    Monroe to a less athletic Lamar Odom

    If there is any accuracy to these comparisons, then that would make Patterson
    a "slam dunk" IMO. A "Buck Williams" type PF would be a very good fit for
    what the Pacers are trying to piece together.

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    A less than stuffed draft gets weaker....

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    Monroe is too soft. Not very athletic either.

    Patterson all the way.

    Patterson isn't tall enough to play center. We already have a 6'8 type power forward in Tyler, so why duplicate? Go with Monroe!!!

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    Patterson isn't tall enough to play center. We already have a 6'8 type power forward in Tyler, so why duplicate? Go with Monroe!!!
    Not like we have any choice now. By default, Patterson wins.
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    If there is any accuracy to these comparisons, then that would make Patterson
    a "slam dunk" IMO. A "Buck Williams" type PF would be a very good fit for
    what the Pacers are trying to piece together.
    We're talking about NBADraft.net here. They compared Monta Ellis to Dale Ellis (wtf?), Mike Dunleavy to Larry Bird and DeShawn Stevenson to Michael Jordan.

    FWIW, Buck Williams in his prime was one of the best rebounders in the game and he was solid defensively. Also managed about 15 ppg while doing all the dirty work.

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    Patterson isn't tall enough to play center. We already have a 6'8 type power forward in Tyler, so why duplicate? Go with Monroe!!!
    Monroe is not coming out this season..(he said it)
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    wow Patterson 9-9 in the game with 22 pts 7:50 to go in the game, anyone watching it that can report on his play?
    I watched the first 5 minutes. It was a non-contest, the guys in the other team were way too small and slow. Those numbers don't tell anything except he can pad stats against weak opponents.

    Monroe has loads of talent but whenever I've seen him I was left with doubts about his athleticism/toughness. He's quick moving his feet N-S, but he doesn't elevate well at all and struggles to move laterally. I wouldn't take what he says about returning to college to heart, he was emotional and reactionary coming after a tough loss. I bet he changes his mind if he's projected to go top-10.

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    Guys, Monroe said that right after a highly disappointing first round upset. You know how many college kids say, "I'm coming back!" right after a big win or big loss to end their seasons? He will re-evaluate, and I'd be very surprised if we didn't see him in the draft.

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    Neither of them is a C in this league.

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    Neither of them is a C in this league.
    I would play both of them at center over Troy Murphy.

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    After his performance (Monroe) yesterday, I am a bit down on him as a pick. Besides him saying he is staying another year, I am not high on him like some, granted I am yet to really see him play for an extended period. It just seems to me having another less athletic player to pair next to Hibbert doesn't make sense, we need an athletic 4 that can score and defend. Favors seems to be that guy.
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    I would play both of them at center over Troy Murphy.
    Well in that case, you could have said TJ Ford and it'd be the same difference.

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    Guys, Monroe said that right after a highly disappointing first round upset. You know how many college kids say, "I'm coming back!" right after a big win or big loss to end their seasons? He will re-evaluate, and I'd be very surprised if we didn't see him in the draft.

    Yep. Even his coach sounded pretty skeptical about Monroe's apparent desire to come back. He saw it as an emotional response.

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    It would seem foolish for Monroe to stay. With a possible lockout looming, many 2011 draft picks could be staring at a long wait for their money.

    Daryl Morey thinks that a lot of players will either go this year or in 2012, to avoid the uncertainty.

    I still expect Monroe to declare for the draft.

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    I would go with Patterson easily. Ignore the measurements. This guy can get up on the rim and plays with force. He scores at a great percentage from the floor and has better numbers than Munroe when a sophomore...on a much, much better team.

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    I watched the first 5 minutes. It was a non-contest, the guys in the other team were way too small and slow. Those numbers don't tell anything except he can pad stats against weak opponents.
    He should fit our PF position perfectly.

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    Monroe has loads of talent but whenever I've seen him I was left with doubts about his athleticism/toughness. He's quick moving his feet N-S, but he doesn't elevate well at all and struggles to move laterally. I wouldn't take what he says about returning to college to heart, he was emotional and reactionary coming after a tough loss. I bet he changes his mind if he's projected to go top-10.
    He has size and skills, but we cannot afford to draft another unathletic big. We already have several of them.

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    B&G-

    You said the key words, Patterson (hat tip to Rick Carlisle) 'plays
    with force'. The Pacers desperately need an athletic big with
    that attribute.

    I'd certainly prefer Favors, who fits the bill almost perfectly. But
    the Pacers are probably in the process of screwing themselves
    out of a shot at him.

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    If the Pacers pick around 7th or 8th and they can't trade the pick or Monroe is back in the draft. I'm taking Patterson, or Bledsoe from UK.

    Yes, I think Bledsoe will be THAT good

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    If the Pacers pick around 7th or 8th and they can't trade the pick or Monroe is back in the draft. I'm taking Patterson, or Bledsoe from UK.

    Yes, I think Bledsoe will be THAT good
    I'm in 100% agreement with you. Looking in from outside the top 4 I would happily take Patterson or Bledsoe.

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    Patterson isn't tall enough to play center. We already have a 6'8 type power forward in Tyler, so why duplicate? Go with Monroe!!!
    Who said anything about a center? He is long enough to play PF with his 7 foot wingspan, plus for all we know Tyler may never play again.

    Monroe is the duplicate, he duplicates Hibbert. They have the exact same strengths and weaknesses.

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    Patterson just doesn't have that kind of offensive arsenal. /QUOTE]


    WHAT? He's got a mid-range game AND developed a 3pt game this year!

    I'm one of the biggest advocates of getting Carl Landry in a Pacers uni on this board, and Patterson has more range than Landry does. Patterson has a total package offense type game where he can play in the paint or outside.

    Patterson disappears too often in the Kentucky offense. He has let a freshman (Cousins) come in and take over dominating the rebounding and offense in KY. That to me is being too passive. As an upperclassman he should be dominating Cousins and other power SEC forwards...he does not do that. Plus Patterson is too short to be a dominant center/power forward in the NBA. No thanks...I'll take Monroe or Favors

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    One guy is a tough power minded power forward, the other guy is a gifted but softer power forward. Seeing what Hibbert became gives you hope on Monroe, but Patterson has shown me toughness and the ability to step aside and let the kids have the floor without throwing a fit about it.

    Think about it from his view, you think PP likes having to watch Cousins get the press while also throwing his fits? Or watch Wall drive out of control into traffic late in a games? Or be left on the wing staying out of their way?

    But he's done it all like a pro, which is exactly why I've had him as the Pacers target all year long.

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