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    The Pacers can't possibly win enough games to make the playoffs, so do we start rooting for the Pacers to lose the rest of their games so they can get a better draft pick in the June Draft? The difference between drafting fourth and ninth is enormous, and with a bunch of L's they will very likely be in the top five and maybe in the top three. Cousins, Turner, and Wall would all be game changers for the Pacers. Whatever they might get at ninth would be the same old thing - a really good player who will help the Pacers win 35 games. More at the link.

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    Just root for other teams to win. Like New York,Sacramento,Washington,76'ers etc..
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    It doesn't really matter if we root for them to lose or not, they aren't going to listen to the fans. We've been rooting for them to win the last few seasons and that wasn't happening either, so they have obviously tuned us out.
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    It doesn't really matter if we root for them to lose or not, they aren't going to listen to the fans. We've been rooting for them to win the last few seasons and that wasn't happening either, so they have obviously tuned us out.
    Our fanhood has been irrelevant.

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    The Pacers can't possibly win enough games to make the playoffs,


    Your first comment on this forum is demonstrably incorrect!

    Hicks has posted in another thread this morning that the magic number of elimination is 8, so the Pacers can possibly win enough games to make the playoffs.


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    Cheer for wins. When the wins don't come, just rationalize it by thinking about our lottery chances.

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    It doesn't really matter if we root for them to lose or not, they aren't going to listen to the fans. We've been rooting for them to win the last few seasons and that wasn't happening either, so they have obviously tuned us out.
    I understand what you are saying. However most things are out of our control, the key is
    I am in control of how I respond to that, that I have some control over. Not saying it is easy
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    Yea the Pacers need to keep losing and those other teams need to win so we can maintain our draft position. Also in case some of you were wondering I just read that our "magic" number is 8 to officially be eliminated from the playoffs.

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    The Pacers can't possibly win enough games to make the playoffs, so do we start rooting for the Pacers to lose the rest of their games so they can get a better draft pick in the June Draft? The difference between drafting fourth and ninth is enormous, and with a bunch of L's they will very likely be in the top five and maybe in the top three. Cousins, Turner, and Wall would all be game changers for the Pacers. Whatever they might get at ninth would be the same old thing - a really good player who will help the Pacers win 35 games. More at the link.

    http://indysportsonline.com/2010/03/...o-keep-losing/
    If you have more to say about this, why not just post it here also as opposed to promoting what is possibly just your own website?

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    I've been rooting for losses for a while now... that being said it's not like I go to the game and not care. I cheer for the Pacers when they make great plays and like to see them play good, but at the end of the night I'm happy if they've lost. Yeah it's fun to see the Pacers win, but to me I'd rather trade those wins now for hopefully more wins down the road thanks to a top draft pick.

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    I can't say that I'm ever happy for a loss. However, I've come to terms that losses help towards a chance at a high draft pick, I just have to accept it.

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    Mr. Stern, your system sucks.

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    got a better idea?

    It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

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    Just root for other teams to win. Like New York,Sacramento,Washington,76'ers etc..


    Yep, I sure did the Wiz/Celtics game only to have the Celtics pull it out at the last moment.

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    BTW, I have nothing but contempt for people who root for their own team to lose. Whether the ends justify the means or not, wrong is wrong.
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    Just root for other teams to win. Like New York,Sacramento,Washington,76'ers etc..
    EXACTLY.

    This is what I've been saying to my mom, lol.

    Good nights for us these last few days. New York won, Sacramento got a win, Detroit won, heck even New Jersey won.

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    BTW, I have nothign but contempt for people who root for their own team to lose. Whether the ends justify the means or not, wrong is wrong.
    I could not agree more!

    Although the "wise" approach here would be to hope the Pacers finish with heart, and battle teams valiantly while losing... I simply cannot make myself root against them, doing so defies myself and my lifelong devotions.

    Do I hope that if they miss the playoffs they get the #1 pick? Yes

    Do I hope they lose every game till the end of the season to raise that %? No

    Do I hope they go on a tear and WIN every game possible, even when mathematically eliminated? HELL YES!

    I love my team and want to see them win, no matter the circumstances.
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    If my team finishes with 55+ losses, so be it. I'll reap some compensation for my misery come draft day. But no way in hell am I going to be happy about losing games.

    Nevemind the effect on young players. You do not want to develop rookies in a losing culture.

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    I never want a losing season, but if the writing is on the wall, I want the most compensation we can get out of it.

    It's unfortunately the way this league works. It pays to be really good, really bad, then mediocre, in that order. The only exception is if you're already well stocked with young talent that just hasn't developed yet. .500 ball is fine if it's just a stepping stone. But when you have mediocre veterans, you're screwed.

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    got a better idea?
    adam silver, the nba deputy commissioner, recently pointed out that a key difference of nba and european ball is relegation. just imagine if, say, the 2 worst teams in the nba each year are downgraded to the d-league, while the 2 best d-league teams get promoted up. it would never happen - the talent gap between nba and d-league is still too large, and then there are all sorts of arena and logistics issues - but if it did, it would kill tanking in a hurry.

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    Game by game, I root for the Pacers to win. I really can't help it. I know that in the big picture however, we will best be served by losing and getting a better draft pick. However, as a fan I am too selfish to accept that "in the moment" of the games and root for the team to win regardless.

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    The wins and losses aren't bad let's put it that way.

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    adam silver, the nba deputy commissioner, recently pointed out that a key difference of nba and european ball is relegation. just imagine if, say, the 2 worst teams in the nba each year are downgraded to the d-league, while the 2 best d-league teams get promoted up. it would never happen - the talent gap between nba and d-league is still too large, and then there are all sorts of arena and logistics issues - but if it did, it would kill tanking in a hurry.
    I've actually made suggestions on PD that follow something like this. Divide the leagues into 2 strata, have upper and lower level playoffs, get rid of the conferences.

    I think you'd still want to figure out how to have teams playing each other across the two levels, if nothing else so your bad teams can have the annual "hyped player on a great team comes to town" sellouts, but it seems like an idea whose time has come.

    If nothing else it means a team has to stink for 2 years (rather than having an injury to a great player, stinking for one, and getting a second high draft pick) to drop from the upper level into a #1 draft pick.
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    BTW, I have nothing but contempt for people who root for their own team to lose. Whether the ends justify the means or not, wrong is wrong.
    Well, none of here would dare risk your contempt. Good thing you are here to keep our fandom pure.

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    The Pacers can't possibly win enough games to make the playoffs, so do we start rooting for the Pacers to lose the rest of their games so they can get a better draft pick in the June Draft? The difference between drafting fourth and ninth is enormous, and with a bunch of L's they will very likely be in the top five and maybe in the top three. Cousins, Turner, and Wall would all be game changers for the Pacers. Whatever they might get at ninth would be the same old thing - a really good player who will help the Pacers win 35 games. More at the link.

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    nothing else to root for.

    at the very least i've checked out mentally.

    losses. wins. blah. who cares.

    i'm good w/ losing out. we need impact players. the higher we draft, the better our chances to get one.

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