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    Default Why aren't the Nets better than us?

    I hear that Lopez is better than Hibbert, that Lee is better than Rush, and we all know Harris is far better than our PGs.

    Furthemore, I think as of this moment, most would take their chances on Yi before settling for Tyler or Josh.

    So why are they so far behind us in the W/L column? Shouldn't they have more than our 20 wins?

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    Default Re: Why aren't the Nets better than us?

    Apparently, they must not be able to "stretch the floor" and hit 3's as well as we can.

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    Default Re: Why aren't the Nets better than us?

    Without looking...

    Have they had a harder schedule?
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    Horrible shot making, bench, injuries, coaching change, injuries, too many slashers, low post guy that isn't ready for what he's stuck in, and a somewhat selfish player in Devin Harris running the point, who happens to be a very bad three point shooter.
    "I keep wondering the same thing. Last week they had the 4th worst record in the league, had an 11.9 percent chance of winning the lottery and were in line to land a franchise type player like Derrick Favors or DeMarcus Cousins. This week? They have a 1.7 percent chance of winning the lottery, have the 8th worst record and are in line to draft Cole Aldrich or Greg Monroe. Way to go Jim O'Brien. Rest Danny Granger the rest of the season (if it isn't too late) and give Josh McRoberts lots of minutes. That ought to do it." - Chad Ford on winning meaningless games

    Way to go Jim, you may have just put our franchise back another 4+ years.

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    IIRC they began basically the 1st quarter of the season without Lee or Harris. They were close to 0-18 when Harris returned. That is a huge hole to climb out from. I think the Pacers are deeper than them. They lost their coach, who is a coach Pacer fans wouldn't mind having. They purged most of their roster, for two seasons, to make financial room for a big time FA in 2010. Frankly they may just be better at tanking then the Pacers. I guess when a franchise has that bad of a start to a season the clear option is positioning for the draft. On the topic of Yi, he didn't pick up his play till late December I believe. Yi is one of those "if he could only play as well as he looks in shoot around" guys.

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    Without looking...

    Have they had a harder schedule?
    I don't know, but surely schedule alone wouldn't cause them to lose fourteen more games than us. Especially if all four of the players I mentioned are better than our versions.

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    I hear that Lopez is better than Hibbert, that Lee is better than Rush, and we all know Harris is far better than our PGs.

    Furthemore, I think as of this moment, most would take their chances on Yi before settling for Tyler or Josh.

    So why are they so far behind us in the W/L column? Shouldn't they have more than our 20 wins?
    Lopez is better than Hibbert. Lee isn't better than Rush. Yi isn't better than Murphy, who is more important to us than Hans or McRob. Devan is a scorer who kills his offense, TJ 2.0. That's why Dallas wanted a washed up Kidd instead. In other words, they suck for a reason. Plus, we have more depth.

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    IIRC they began basically the 1st quarter of the season without Lee or Harris. They were close to 0-18 when Harris returned. That is a huge hole to climb out from. I think the Pacers are deeper than them. They lost their coach, who is a coach Pacer fans wouldn't mind having. They purged most of their roster, for two seasons, to make financial room for a big time FA in 2010. Frankly they may just be better at tanking then the Pacers. I guess when a franchise has that bad of a start to a season the clear option is positioning for the draft. On the topic of Yi, he didn't pick up his play till late December I believe. Yi is one of those "if he could only play as well as he looks in shoot around" guys.

    All that. Plus their bench is one of worst in league history.

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    They want it (#1) more?
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    Default Re: Why aren't the Nets better than us?

    The more I think about it, Hansbrough is better than Yi too. Much better PF than the stretch that Yi is. If Josh can improve his rebounding a little so is he. Yi is highly overrated. Bust status.

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    Um, Danny Granger?

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    Um, Danny Granger?
    Yeah, and that guy.

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    Default Re: Why aren't the Nets better than us?

    Well, they start Trenton Hassell, who possibly wouldn't even crack the Pacers rotation and heck might not even make the roster of a few of the elite teams.

    They have too many guys who thrive in isolation basketball but can't really facilitate. Lopez can facilitate inside outside ball pretty well for his experience level, and T-Will has facilitated well on occasion, but other than that, the team has very little cohesion.

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    Cause Larry Frank was their coach to begin the season.
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    Default Re: Why aren't the Nets better than us?

    because they know that they are not going anywhere right now and want to secure Jhon Wall and also because they are not playing a team "who gives them a better chance to win"

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    because they know that they are not going anywhere right now and want to secure Jhon Wall and also because they are not playing a team "who gives them a better chance to win"
    to be fair, nor do we..

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    Default Re: Why aren't the Nets better than us?

    I don't think the Nets personnel is better than the Pacers. Lee and Lopez are good...although the gap between Lopez and Hibbert is not huge. Harris is supposed to be the star but is over-rated based on his performance this year. Yi is over-rated because he is very inconsistent. Also, the Nets defense is worse than the Pacers. More than anything, Granger is head and shoulders better than anyone on the Nets. Other factors are Watson, D Jones and some of our younger players like Price and Rush. They are easily as good as the Nets supporting cast.

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    Default Re: Why aren't the Nets better than us?

    I would say having the best player between both teams could be a big part of it. Plus better role/bench players.

    I don't think Lee is better than Rush though. Maybe a push.
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    The answer to this question is simply Danny Granger. If you put Granger on the Nets they would have more wins right now than the Pacers do with him. The Nets starters are better than the Pacers as is their supporting cast. I would say ours would be better if our players were healthy.
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    Default Re: Why aren't the Nets better than us?

    But shouldn't Devin Harris off-set Danny Granger?

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    But shouldn't Devin Harris off-set Danny Granger?
    I actually love D Harris but he is not better than Granger.
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    But shouldn't Devin Harris off-set Danny Granger?
    No. Harris was playing very well last year. I'm not sure how he's doing right now, but earlier this year he was not doing well at all. I guess the same could be said of Granger...but here's the difference:

    Harris is supposed to be the PG, yet he is usually scoring the ball and rarely shoots the 3 effectively. As a result, he expends a lot of energy on the offensive end and is not in a good position to get back on defense nearly as well as he would otherwise. In contrast, our guards are not the primary scoring weapons and as a result can focus more on D and get back to guard the fast break more effectively. The bottom line is...you really don't want your PG to be your go-to guy on offense. Sure, there have been success stories, but not too many in the recent past. The floor leader should be good at stopping penetration and getting others involved in the game, not calling his own number.

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    Default Re: Why aren't the Nets better than us?

    If I had to guess...

    I think the Pacers have more mediocre veteran players in their rotation, who while they aren't that good, bring their mediocre play every night.

    Nets appear to have a lot more younger players who really don't bring it every night.

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    If I had to guess...

    I think the Pacers have more mediocre veteran players in their rotation, who while they aren't that good, bring their mediocre play every night.

    Nets appear to have a lot more younger players who really don't bring it every night.
    Yes, that is a factor. What we have on the Pacers is a number of solid backups playing big minutes. With D Jones, Watson, Dunleavy, Murphy and Ford...we have numerous players with a lot of NBA experience. Against most teams most of these guys hurt you. Against the Nets, they may actually help.

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