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    Default Tonight is a night I hate being a R.A.

    I was up till 4A.M. this morning, and I had to stay up even later then that to write up my reports (I should have just gone to sleep and wrote them when I woke up, because my reports were horrible cause I was so tired)

    All I can say is I HATE HATE HATE 4 Locos.

    Apparently they are being banned by the FDA, and there is a reason for that (they are basically liquid crack)

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    On a related note, tonight is a big party night, as tonight is the annual ABC party (Anything But Clothes)

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    I can understand your pain a little, my sister is an R.A. at her college in Manchester.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vapacersfan View Post
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    I was up till 4A.M. this morning, and I had to stay up even later then that to write up my reports (I should have just gone to sleep and wrote them when I woke up, because my reports were horrible cause I was so tired)

    All I can say is I HATE HATE HATE 4 Locos.

    Apparently they are being banned by the FDA, and there is a reason for that (they are basically liquid crack)
    Four Loko?

    Not liquid crack...I hope you were using hyperbole...

    Caffeine, taurine, guarana, and wormwood oil...
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    Wormwood oil = absinthe.....neurotoxin, narcotic. See Paris, 1915.

    "The symptoms of absinthism included auditory and visual hallucinations, hyper excitability, intellectual enfeeblement, addiction and in extreme cases brain damage." -- http://www.essentialoils.co.za/essen...s/wormwood.htm

    If I were cutting the dose myself, that would be one thing. To trust a street pharmacist with this....no thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stryder View Post
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    Four Loko?

    Not liquid crack...I hope you were using hyperbole...

    Caffeine, taurine, guarana, and wormwood oil...
    It may be a hyperbole, but it is not far off of being liquid crack (obviously I was exaggerating)

    With that said, thank god this thing is being taken off the market.

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    Misunderstood. Sorry. That's an actual commercial product? Eek.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kester99 View Post
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    Wormwood oil = absinthe.....neurotoxin, narcotic. See Paris, 1915.

    "The symptoms of absinthism included auditory and visual hallucinations, hyper excitability, intellectual enfeeblement, addiction and in extreme cases brain damage." -- http://www.essentialoils.co.za/essen...s/wormwood.htm

    If I were cutting the dose myself, that would be one thing. To trust a street pharmacist with this....no thank you.
    Actually, absinthe is legal in this country now and has been distilled here since 2007. I had some the other day. It is enjoyable, but you really have to love the fennel and anise.

    And it has been shown in publications that absinthe consumption leads to as many hallucinations as does "normal" alcohol use/abuse. And if you want to get really deep in to it, the thujone, which is considered toxic, doesn't really make it into properly distilled absinthe. And wormwood oil is toxic, yes, if you drink it in its pure form. The amount of wormwood that is needed to make absinthe is not harmful. The higher percentage of alcohol in absinthe will hurt you before the thujone or wormwood will.

    Also, the US version of this drink is malt form. Absinthe is not malt; it is spirit. The european versions of this drink are in spirit form.

    I really wish people would learn before acting like absinthe/wormood is bad.

    Also, absinthism doesn't exist.
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    It may be a hyperbole, but it is not far off of being liquid crack (obviously I was exaggerating)

    With that said, thank god this thing is being taken off the market.
    I don't think there is any action of it being taken off the market. The only thing I saw was last year, the FDA wanted evidence from the manufacturers that the combination of caffeine and alcohol were safe...that's it....do you have any evidence to support that it is being withdrawn?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stryder View Post
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    I don't think there is any action of it being taken off the market. The only thing I saw was last year, the FDA wanted evidence from the manufacturers that the combination of caffeine and alcohol were safe...that's it....do you have any evidence to support that it is being withdrawn?
    I have heard it will be coming off the market very soon.

    I have not seen anything in print, besides the WSJ article from a while back.

    Here is is the thing I could find in a quick google search, though it is far from creditble:

    http://siouxsielaw.com/2009/11/15/sa...lic-beverages/

    Either way I hated this drink the other night, though my attitude may change if I were to have one and not deal with drunks who have had one to many

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    Thanks for posting my article.

    There has not been much written on this topic since the FDA declared that it would be scrutinizing these drinks. The drinks aren't banned yet; but the FDA's declaration is a strong signal of its intent to ban them in the near future.

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    A interesting thread to see in hindsight.

    Looks like the FDA is really trying to ban this drink now

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    Yep, it's about to be gone.

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    True. Caffeine and alcohol together are very dangerous. Wonder why the FDA took as long as they did? Didn't they originally only give these companies 3 months to respond?

    I still standby my arguments about absinthe though.

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    The manufacturer of popular caffeinated alcohol drink Four Loko said Tuesday it will remove the caffeine from its products, pulling the blend off the market just as the Food and Drug Administration is poised to ban it.


    Phusion Projects said in a statement posted on its website that the company will remove caffeine and two other ingredients from its products going forward.


    The announcement came as the FDA is expected to find as early as Wednesday that caffeine is an unsafe food additive to [COLOR=blue ! important][COLOR=blue ! important]alcoholic [COLOR=blue ! important]drinks
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    That finding essentially would ban Four Loko and other drinks like it.


    The FDA ruling "should be the nail in the coffin of these dangerous and toxic drinks," Sen. Chuck Schumer, who has pushed the Obama administration to ban the beverages, said Tuesday.


    I have no problem with making them safer, but to ban them because people are idiots and drink them underage.

    What, they going to show up to the bar and tell me I can not have my red bull and vodka or monster and jager (just kidding, I hate the second one)

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/health/2010/1...#ixzz15bVuYCvy


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    They're only banning pre-mixed ones. The caffeine in four loko is apparently equivalent to 3-4 cups of coffee and the alcohol is the equivalent of 3-4 alcoholic drinks. Sounds gross anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trader Joe View Post
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    They're only banning pre-mixed ones. The caffeine in four loko is apparently equivalent to 3-4 cups of coffee and the alcohol is the equivalent of 3-4 alcoholic drinks. Sounds gross anyways.
    I get that, but I just hate how the company gets blamed and not the idiots drinking it underage.

    Yes, it is gross.

    Also, I read in a article either yesterday or today that it is actually double what you said (they said originally pople thought 3-4 cups of coffee, but actally more like 7-8. And that does not count the other stuff they put in)

    I agree, it was gross. I have no incentive to touch it again, though last time I probably should have had it before I started taking shots.

    Either way, they really need to disclose what is in the drink

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