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    Mohammed still has some game too. I looked at the game logs and he had a 21/20 game recently. Nice tutor for Roy to practice against.
    He torched us earlier this season.

    I love Rush and think there's a pretty good chance he's the best player involved in this deal, but I'd do it for sure. Augustine and Henderson are both potential starters down the road.

    How much money does that save us for next year?
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    Only he will be starting with murphy and Roy will get the AJ treatment
    Probably.... theoritically though, he's the defensive match to both of those guys, for the short term, at least.

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    I'd rather we give them Head. Let's wait til end of year on Rush.

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    Charlotte and Indiana is close, but sources say not done. FIve players for now, including Ford and Rush for Augustine, Henderson and Nazr.
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    "Close" - sounds like a pretty good chance it gets done.

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    These are the best 10 minutes of the whole Pacers season.

    Enjoy them, everybody.
    Lol!

    At least it's something!
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    He torched us earlier this season.

    I love Rush and think there's a pretty good chance he's the best player involved in this deal, but I'd do it for sure. Augustine and Henderson are both potential starters down the road.

    How much money does that save us for next year?
    According to Hoopshype:

    Nazr makes 6.4, 6.8
    Henderson 1.9, 2.1
    DJ 2.3, 2.5

    TJ 8.5, 8.5
    BRush 1.9, 2.0

    So we actually lose money for next year.
    11.4 incoming
    10.5 outgoing

    Of course, I rounded and I don't know if these numbers are correct.

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    Watching Rush take steps toward becoming an elite defensive player has been one of the few bright spots for me this season. I won't be happy to see him go.
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    I hate this trade.

    I am saying now that Rush will flourish with the Bobcats. This trade is a good career move for him if it goes down, I like the guy and he should be excited. He is completely incompatible with the system we run here.

    I would keep what we have and just use Ford as a poor man's AI like we did last night against the Spurs for the rest of the season. I really don't like this. Henderson is not as good as Rush. Crap.

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    How much money does that save us for next year?
    I did it on hoopshype in my head in just a few seconds, but if I didn't screw up hurrying, I believe it'll cost us some money.

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    I'd rather we give them Head. Let's wait til end of year on Rush.
    Of course you would. And you'd also make Charlotte hang up the phone. Come on.

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    Default Re: Faint Flicker of Hope - Ford to Charlotte?

    As an aside, Woj's book about Bobby Hurley Sr. is pretty good. It's called Miracle at St. Anthony.
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    I'd prefer to keep Rush rather than get Henderson.
    Sure if it was straight up I'd agree with this but you're getting Augustine as well as getting rid of TJ. Sign me up.

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    What's not to like? 2 young players and a contract that expires at the same time as Fords. It doesn't impede us in the 2011 summer, but it gives us a look at 2 young guys.

    2 young guys they won't use, for one veteran guy we shouldn't be using. lol

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    I just like Rush. Granted I have barely seen henderson or augustine play because brown hates young players.

    It is a tough situation, you have to go give talent to get it.

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    Default Re: Faint Flicker of Hope - Ford to Charlotte?

    you have 2 minutes

    Someone is going to have to tell me who Henderson is

    Augustin seems like an undersized decent point guard, who played well last season. Not a difference maker, but a nice point.
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    He torched us earlier this season.

    I love Rush and think there's a pretty good chance he's the best player involved in this deal, but I'd do it for sure. Augustine and Henderson are both potential starters down the road.

    How much money does that save us for next year?
    None...it actually increases our payroll by about $1mm.

    This is a talent deal:

    Ford for Nazr

    Rush for Henderson/Augustin

    (And probably, removing a headache in Ford, and, maybe even Rush.)

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    Oh my god, I didn't expect to come to the digest 5 minutes before the deadline, thinking things were a done deal with no one moving, and then I see this.

    I would personally love this trade. Sorry I like Rush, but I'm just not sure

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    I hate this trade.

    I am saying now that Rush will flourish with the Bobcats. This trade is a good career move for him if it goes down, I like the guy and he should be excited. He is completely incompatible with the system we run here.

    I would keep what we have and just use Ford as a poor man's AI like we did last night against the Spurs for the rest of the season. I really don't like this. Henderson is not as good as Rush. Crap.
    You'd be getting 2 prospects for the price of 1 and unloading a guy you don't want.

    It's an excellent deal.

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    Default Re: Faint Flicker of Hope - Ford to Charlotte?

    Neither Ford nor Rush are world beaters, but both can help you more than they hurt you if you use them properly.

    I blame this trade on JOB!

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    Default Re: Faint Flicker of Hope - Ford to Charlotte?

    Remember too Rush was rumored in the Felton/ fOSTER RUMOR.

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    Not bad at all. I would love Henderson on this team
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    Default Re: Faint Flicker of Hope - Ford to Charlotte?

    Somebody's getting waived if these are the parameters- Head or McBob would be my guess.

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    I hate this trade.

    I am saying now that Rush will flourish with the Bobcats. This trade is a good career move for him if it goes down, I like the guy and he should be excited. He is completely incompatible with the system we run here.

    I would keep what we have and just use Ford as a poor man's AI like we did last night against the Spurs for the rest of the season. I really don't like this. Henderson is not as good as Rush. Crap.
    BRush could be Larry's Heavy D 2.0 in Charlotte. I think you have to still do this, the potential return is too good.

    I like Earl tutoring DJ and AJ and Mohommed working with Roy.

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