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    I agree with Buck here. JOB frustrates me, but who are we to call him a moron?

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    Dr. A-

    In addition to the obvious guys you alluded to (Kobe, James, Wade,
    Howard and Paul), without hesitation, I'd also include the following
    guys that, if given the choice, I'd take over Granger, Deron Williams
    (PG is a 'premium' position), Rose (ditto), Durant and Roy.

    Depending on the system I planned on running, etc, I'd prolly
    add guys like Bosh, Anthony and Nowitzki. And if assumed
    healthy, probably Stoudemire and Yao Ming. And then there
    are guys like Parker, Gasol, Gay, Joe Johnson and and Ginobli
    who are more or less at a similar level as DG.

    Don't get me wrong. I like Granger as a player. I just don't consider
    him 'great' at anything. He's a very good scorer, an 'at times' pretty
    good defender and at times, pretty good rebounder for his position.

    Finally, I don't expect him to ever be 'great' in any of those areas.
    First off, you really think that granger is on the same level as rudy gay? rudy gay doesnt play a lick of defense. and has really only developed a shot until THIS year. and if it wasnt for DG getting hurt, i think all this granger controversy wouldnt have started.

    Secondly, if granger is 'good' at so many categories...doesnt that make him a 'great' overall player?
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    Good write-up. Personally, I was intrigued by your assessement of Brandon Rush, and the recommendation to put him at PG. I could see it. IMHO, I always thought that Rush set-up Roy in the post better THAN ANYONE on the team. He recoginzes when to feed to him and when not. One play (I think it was the Hornerts game) that comes to mind that made me mad when Brandon elected to not pass it to Roy and passed to Granger only to have Granger turn it over trying to feed Roy although Rush didn't. Now, I will disagree with him not being a playmaker. I believe he makes solid decisions on offense, but it's not a playmaker in the sense that he can breakdown the D with dribble moves (but he could work on them during the offseason). Interesting stat about Rush, he averages 1.0 TPG while averagin 27.4 MPG.

    Your thoughts about Bird was spot-on. I trust Bird, but he can be stubborn at times. I'm going to wait until Tyler is 100% healthy, before I'll pass judgement on him. The boy hasn't been healthy for a while now.

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    Hmmm....could it work?
    who would play PG? The opposing defense would trap us every time....we wouldnt be able to get the ball past half...kind of like what happened when Sarunas was in town
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    First off, you really think that granger is on the same level as rudy gay? rudy gay doesnt play a lick of defense. and has really only developed a shot until THIS year. and if it wasnt for DG getting hurt, i think all this granger controversy wouldnt have started.

    Secondly, if granger is 'good' at so many categories...doesnt that make him a 'great' overall player?
    Yeah, Gay definitely doesn't deserve to be mentioned in that group of players.

    Chauncey Billups should be on that list, as well as Steve Nash, Paul Pierce, and maybe Gerald Wallace.

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    What game was that anyway? I do remember you making that comment, and I was thinking the same exact thing when it happened.
    Me, too.

    Isn't it sad? A non-play / play that succinctly reflects an understanding of basic fundamentals of basketball and recognizing when coverage prohibits passing into the post can elicit a response of "Wow, good job Brandon!" (which I felt when he held onto the ball), followed by "WTF are you thinking, Danny?" when seconds later he went ahead and attempted to make the exact same play with the exact same coverage in the exact same position on the floor and committed the TO. It should just be routine that a player makes the right decision in a situation like this one where most teams have those plays occur on a nightly basis, and underscores once more how little fundamentals are focused on here. Otherwise, why would we have noticed it as much as we did?

    If we could combine Brandon's IQ, Danny's aggressiveness, Brandon's defense, and Danny's shooting ability from 2008-2009 (not his current), we would have our very own top tier superstar player.

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    Its funny, I can see the direction that Larry is trying to take the Pacers and I love it, however I think he is going about it in the wrong way. I can tell that Larry knows what it takes to build a Championship team, but I also think he is trying to skip a few steps.
    Just wanted to say thats a very interesting comment. Thanks.
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    Default Re: So, its about that time of year...

    I apologize, I should have clarified - when I called him a moron, I was speaking in a basketball sense, not of him personally. But yes, in a basketball sense, I believe he is a moron and clearly does not understand how to manage a game. Thats just how I feel. I wouldn't say anything about him as a person outside of basketball though, if thats the impression you got from that comment I apologize, like I said, I should have been more clear.

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