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    I think college has a higher % of three point shot attempts than does the NBA. Not sure about H.S.
    I can hit shots from the college three-point line. That's in the range of nearly every kid in Indiana with a hoop in the driveway or on the barn.

    Now, 23'9" is a different story.
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    I can hit shots from the college three-point line. That's in the range of nearly every kid in Indiana with a hoop in the driveway or on the barn.

    Now, 23'9" is a different story.
    That's very true.

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    Has anyone come up with solid numbers on how many extra possessions your opponent gets when you focus too much on taking 3-pointers (relative to the league average)?

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    Also, J, is the league average FT% really 85? That sounds high to me. Don't make the same mistake the 3P% article did.

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    I'll say something good about him. He was a much better coach than Versace, Irvine or isiah Thomas - the three worst coaches in Pacers NBA history.
    That's not something "good", that's either neutral or useless.

    He was also better than McKinney, the NBA version of Slick Leonard (but clearly not the ABA version of Slick), better than O'Brien, and equal to (but with vastly inferior rosters) Bird and Carlisle. Better than Dr. Jack.

    Even if you give Bird and Carlisle credit for having better rosters and thus more success, he's no worse than fourth.

    And unlike Brownie, things were not drastically worse when he left. Bo rescued a 9-19 team that was going downhill fast, got them to basically play 0.500 ball immediately, and plateaued. Brownie took them from 0.500, made a lot of changes to the roster/ rotations because he realized it was just a 0.500 roster, and with a lot of help from Byron, Derrick, Antonio, and other new players got them to the ECFs twice and ended up below 0.500 shortly thereafter.

    Bird took Brownie's improved roster, gave them confidence again, and was a big-time winner. He couldn't have gotten anything more out of the 90-93 Pacers than Bo Hill did, and by then Bo was winning 59 (or 62, but who's counting) with the Spurs and taking them to the WCFs. Even before they had all the injuries that netted them Tim Duncan in the draft.

    Could Rick have gotten more out of the 90-93 teams than Bo did? I don't know. I do believe Bo could have gotten more out of the 2004-07 teams than Rick did, however. Not the first (61-win) season, but the other three.

    EDIT - I apologize for this tangent.

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    Also, J, is the league average FT% really 85? That sounds high to me. Don't make the same mistake the 3P% article did.

    I used FTM. The league average of FTM is 100%, by defintion.

    I'm only trying to figure out how many FTs are attributed to shots behind the arc.
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    That's not something "good", that's either neutral or useless.

    He was also better than McKinney, the NBA version of Slick Leonard (but clearly not the ABA version of Slick), better than O'Brien, and equal to (but with vastly inferior rosters) Bird and Carlisle. Better than Dr. Jack.

    Even if you give Bird and Carlisle credit for having better rosters and thus more success, he's no worse than fourth.

    And unlike Brownie, things were not drastically worse when he left. Bo rescued a 9-19 team that was going downhill fast, got them to basically play 0.500 ball immediately, and plateaued. Brownie took them from 0.500, made a lot of changes to the roster/ rotations because he realized it was just a 0.500 roster, and with a lot of help from Byron, Derrick, Antonio, and other new players got them to the ECFs twice and ended up below 0.500 shortly thereafter.

    Bird took Brownie's improved roster, gave them confidence again, and was a big-time winner. He couldn't have gotten anything more out of the 90-93 Pacers than Bo Hill did, and by then Bo was winning 59 (or 62, but who's counting) with the Spurs and taking them to the WCFs. Even before they had all the injuries that netted them Tim Duncan in the draft.

    Could Rick have gotten more out of the 90-93 teams than Bo did? I don't know. I do believe Bo could have gotten more out of the 2004-07 teams than Rick did, however. Not the first (61-win) season, but the other three.

    EDIT - I apologize for this tangent.

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    That's very true.
    Back when I worked at AUL, my gym membership also got me into NIFS when the Pacers practiced there. I remember the first time I stepped onto the practice court (which was an old MSA court) and tried to shoot from behind THAT arc. I jumped, cocked my wrist, looked at how far away the rim was and landed on the court, still holding the ball, laughing at how absurd it was. I then dribbled in two steps, rose up, and shot a jumper... that just barely made it to the rim.

    I eventually settled down and could hit my shots, but wow, when you're used to 19'6" or whatever that was... that's a huge difference.
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    Admitting it is the first step in recognizing you have a problem.
    Its not a problem.

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    I've been trying to locate three point shot attempts per game for every year since 1980 when the shot was put in. - I can't find it
    Here are some unofficial calculations:

    Year
    3P
    3PA
    Games
    Pct
    3PA/Game
    1967-68
    1223
    4285
    858
    28.54%
    4.99
    1968-69
    1515
    5060
    858
    29.94%
    5.90
    1969-70
    1702
    5842
    924
    29.13%
    6.32
    1970-71
    1697
    5675
    924
    29.90%
    6.14
    1971-72
    1443
    4857
    924
    29.71%
    5.26
    1972-73
    914
    3160
    840
    28.92%
    3.76
    1973-74
    995
    3512
    840
    28.33%
    4.18
    1974-75
    911
    3108
    840
    29.31%
    3.70
    1975-76
    706
    2395
    614
    29.48%
    3.90
    1979-80
    1403
    5003
    1804
    28.04%
    2.77
    1980-81
    936
    3815
    1886
    24.53%
    2.02
    1981-82
    1129
    4308
    1886
    26.21%
    2.28
    1982-83
    1011
    4248
    1886
    23.80%
    2.25
    1983-84
    1120
    4484
    1886
    24.98%
    2.38
    1984-85
    1671
    5917
    1886
    28.24%
    3.14
    1985-86
    1774
    6293
    1886
    28.19%
    3.34
    1986-87
    2687
    8913
    1886
    30.15%
    4.73
    1987-88
    2979
    9421
    1886
    31.62%
    5.00
    1988-89
    4332
    13431
    2050
    32.25%
    6.55
    1989-90
    4829
    14608
    2214
    33.06%
    6.60
    1990-91
    5055
    15812
    2214
    31.97%
    7.14
    1991-92
    5587
    16898
    2214
    33.06%
    7.63
    1992-93
    6668
    19824
    2214
    33.64%
    8.95
    1993-94
    7301
    21907
    2214
    33.33%
    9.89
    1994-95
    12153
    33889
    2214
    35.86%
    15.31
    1995-96
    14000
    38161
    2378
    36.69%
    16.05
    1996-97
    14383
    39943
    2378
    36.01%
    16.80
    1997-98
    10450
    30231
    2378
    34.57%
    12.71
    1998-99
    6463
    19080
    1450
    33.87%
    13.16
    1999-00
    11513
    32614
    2378
    35.30%
    13.71
    2000-01
    11524
    32597
    2378
    35.35%
    13.71
    2001-02
    12402
    35074
    2378
    35.36%
    14.75
    2002-03
    12200
    34912
    2378
    34.95%
    14.68
    2003-04
    12321
    35492
    2378
    34.71%
    14.93
    2004-05
    13777
    38748
    2460
    35.56%
    15.75
    2005-06
    14086
    39313
    2460
    35.83%
    15.98
    2006-07
    14926
    41671
    2460
    35.82%
    16.94
    2007-08
    16124
    44544
    2460
    36.20%
    18.11
    2008-09
    16352
    44583
    2460
    36.68%
    18.12
    2009-10
    6167
    17693
    994
    34.86%
    17.80

    Note that the line was shortened before the '94-95 season.....
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    Without the 3-pt shot the NBA turns into a game of "who has the biggest bruiser in the paint". Since it spreads the floor when used successfully, it allows for the athletic drives to the basket that would otherwise simply run into a wall.

    Why defend way out on the perimeter if the shot is both lower percentage and the same as the easier layup/dunk/short jumper?
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    I think the three-point shot serves a purpose and I'm quite happy for the other 29 teams to over-rely on it... to their detriment.
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    There's a mistake in my previous calculation that I need to fix.
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    Without the 3-pt shot the NBA turns into a game of "who has the biggest bruiser in the paint". Since it spreads the floor when used successfully, it allows for the athletic drives to the basket that would otherwise simply run into a wall.

    Why defend way out on the perimeter if the shot is both lower percentage and the same as the easier layup/dunk/short jumper?
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    UB, that's a great link.

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    Two major flaws with this. I'm not sure if Lawrence Frank or the article's author are at fault for these assertions. That's an interesting use (or lack thereof) of quotation marks.

    The league average 3FG% is

    08-09: 36.7%
    07-08: 36.2%
    06-07: 35.8%
    05-06: 35.8%
    04-05: 35.6%
    03-04: 34.7%

    Etc.

    So the 40% number that is assumed is bogus.

    Here are the teams that have shot >40% from three:

    Sacremento (03-04, with Peja leading the way). But they "only" took 1498 3's.

    That's it.

    The Suns have a couple of seasons > 39.5%, and the Celtics have one.

    So lower the 3FG% in that calculation to 36% and you get a "breakeven" 2FG% at 54%.

    But part II of the flaw is this:

    Teams score about 15-20% of thier points at the FT line. About the same amount of points that they score from behind the arc.

    I'm not sure where to find the ratio of FGAs that are attributed to fouls outside the arc vs. inside the arc. But we all instinctively know that the ratio is very heavily tilted toward interior shoots. The revised FG% above still assumes no contribution from the FT line.

    Let's assume, and this is quite generous to the 3-point shot, that 15% of points from FTs come from 3FGAs and 85% of points from FTs come from 2FGAs.

    In rough numbers, last season teams scored an average of about 5,000 points per season from "2", 1,600 points per season from "3", and 1,500 points per season from the FT line.

    1,500 * .85 = 1,275.

    1,275/ 5,000 = ~25%.

    36% * 3 = (x% * 2) * 1.25
    1.08 = 2.5x
    x = 43%.

    And teams shoot better than 43% on 2 FGAs.
    The implication here is that you're forgoing FTA's (and FTM's) by shooting more Three's, and that you're doing at a pretty high rate. If it's 85-15, then you'd get almost 6 times as many FT's out of 100 2's than out of 100 3's. And, as you note, that may be generous.

    However, using the two years we've been talking about - 1991 vs. 2009 - there doesn't appear to be any evidence of such a huge drop.

    In 1991, 8.2% of the shots in the league were 3 pointers. For every 1,000 FGA's (both 2's & 3's), teams shot 320 FT's, making 245 of them.

    In 2009, 22.4% of the shots in the league were 3 points. For every 1,000 FGA's (both 2's & 3's), teams shot 306 FT's, making 236 of them.

    So, for every 1,000 shots, the league substituted 143 3PA's for 2PA's at the cost of only 14 FTA's, and only 9 FTM's. If you use 1991's much lower 3PCT of .319, then the league would have added 46 made 3's. However, because the league has learned to use the line much more effectively than the "only in the case of emergency" approach employed back then, the accuracy has gone up to .367, so that mean's 52 more points scored from the field at a cost of only 9 points from the line, or a net 43 point pick up for every 1000 shots from the floor.

    BTW...not all 2pt shots are created equal. You note that teams shoot higher than 43% on 2's, which is true. They shot .485 on 2 pts attempts last year. However, that's largely raised by shots at the rim, which teams hit at about a .605 clip. Once you move away from the basket, the efficiency drops precipitously. Shots inside 10 feet under 43%, 10-15 at 39%, and shots from 16-23 feet only 40%. These numbers have been consistent for the last three season (all the data I have.)

    So, between say 5 and 23 feet, teams only shoot about 40%. Meanwhile, the average team has an eFG% of about 55% from 3, and the Pacers last year had 56%. If you can't get to the rim, a team like the Pacers is better off trying to get an open, standstill three, preferably from the corner.
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    Here are some unofficial calculations:

    Year
    3P
    3PA
    Games
    Pct
    3PA/Game
    1967-68
    1223
    4285
    858
    28.54%
    4.99
    1968-69
    1515
    5060
    858
    29.94%
    5.90
    1969-70
    1702
    5842
    924
    29.13%
    6.32
    1970-71
    1697
    5675
    924
    29.90%
    6.14
    1971-72
    1443
    4857
    924
    29.71%
    5.26
    1972-73
    914
    3160
    840
    28.92%
    3.76
    1973-74
    995
    3512
    840
    28.33%
    4.18
    1974-75
    911
    3108
    840
    29.31%
    3.70
    1975-76
    706
    2395
    614
    29.48%
    3.90
    1979-80
    1403
    5003
    1804
    28.04%
    2.77
    1980-81
    936
    3815
    1886
    24.53%
    2.02
    1981-82
    1129
    4308
    1886
    26.21%
    2.28
    1982-83
    1011
    4248
    1886
    23.80%
    2.25
    1983-84
    1120
    4484
    1886
    24.98%
    2.38
    1984-85
    1671
    5917
    1886
    28.24%
    3.14
    1985-86
    1774
    6293
    1886
    28.19%
    3.34
    1986-87
    2687
    8913
    1886
    30.15%
    4.73
    1987-88
    2979
    9421
    1886
    31.62%
    5.00
    1988-89
    4332
    13431
    2050
    32.25%
    6.55
    1989-90
    4829
    14608
    2214
    33.06%
    6.60
    1990-91
    5055
    15812
    2214
    31.97%
    7.14
    1991-92
    5587
    16898
    2214
    33.06%
    7.63
    1992-93
    6668
    19824
    2214
    33.64%
    8.95
    1993-94
    7301
    21907
    2214
    33.33%
    9.89
    1994-95
    12153
    33889
    2214
    35.86%
    15.31
    1995-96
    14000
    38161
    2378
    36.69%
    16.05
    1996-97
    14383
    39943
    2378
    36.01%
    16.80
    1997-98
    10450
    30231
    2378
    34.57%
    12.71
    1998-99
    6463
    19080
    1450
    33.87%
    13.16
    1999-00
    11513
    32614
    2378
    35.30%
    13.71
    2000-01
    11524
    32597
    2378
    35.35%
    13.71
    2001-02
    12402
    35074
    2378
    35.36%
    14.75
    2002-03
    12200
    34912
    2378
    34.95%
    14.68
    2003-04
    12321
    35492
    2378
    34.71%
    14.93
    2004-05
    13777
    38748
    2460
    35.56%
    15.75
    2005-06
    14086
    39313
    2460
    35.83%
    15.98
    2006-07
    14926
    41671
    2460
    35.82%
    16.94
    2007-08
    16124
    44544
    2460
    36.20%
    18.11
    2008-09
    16352
    44583
    2460
    36.68%
    18.12
    2009-10
    6167
    17693
    994
    34.86%
    17.80

    Note that the line was shortened before the '94-95 season.....




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    But that is the point. Fouls are not occurring further out on the court. You don't need to foul most jumpshooters -- just close out on them and they'll only hit 30%-40% of those attempts. But inside, there are a long list of players that you really need to mug or else you're giving up a much higher 2FG% than just 50%. Let Duncan go in the paint and close out on the perimeter shooters. I dare you. I'll take Duncan shooting 80% in the paint over anybody at the arc. I'll even take Hibbert shooting 70% in the paint over anybody at the arc. Opponents, just let him go. Worry about the guys on the perimeter. Please??!?

    The defensive strategies being employed tell me that most teams still "fear" the high percentage interior shot much more than the long 3FGA.

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    The problem statistically is that a foul on a shot that is not made (and thus is not an And-1) is not a missed shot so we need a completely different way to track those possessions to figure out how much to gross up the 3FGMs and 2 FGMs.

    What we need are just the three-shot fouls and any And-1's on a 3FGA.

    And there is no way that accounts for 15% of the free throws. So the break-even FG% goes down even further than the caculation you quoted (and I subsequently revised it upwards by giving additional "and-1" credit to the 3FGMs that is unrealistically high.)

    Now, there is a decent number of non-shooting fouls as well that result in FTAs. I continue to assume, though, that those fouls are associated with trying to get a high-percentage two-point shot out of the possession instead of a low-percentage three. Maybe not in O'Brien's or SVG's or D'Antoni's world. But everyone else's.
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    Without the 3-pt shot the NBA turns into a game of "who has the biggest bruiser in the paint". Since it spreads the floor when used successfully, it allows for the athletic drives to the basket that would otherwise simply run into a wall.

    Why defend way out on the perimeter if the shot is both lower percentage and the same as the easier layup/dunk/short jumper?
    Unless the rules were changed, wouldn't it become a game of jump-shots? If even with the spacing there's today, it's difficult for bruisers to find space to score down low consistently, how would they beat defences that would need to defend a smaller area?

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    Thanks to MagicRat for posting the numbers and cordobes for charting them.

    Now...what happened in '95 through '97? Those are some serious outliers. Not just a higher number of shots, but a higher made rate to go with it. League-wide!

    I see this explanation:
    Note that the line was shortened before the '94-95 season.....

    But I don't understand why it lead to a temporary boost that fell back again.
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    Thanks to MagicRat for posting the numbers and cordobes for charting them.

    Now...what happened in '95 through '97? Those are some serious outliers. Not just a higher number of shots, but a higher made rate to go with it. League-wide!

    I see this explanation:



    But I don't understand why it lead to a temporary boost that fell back again.
    Because they reverted the line to its original distance for the '97/'98 season.

    Btw, I'm not the author of those charts, they come from the source indicated in the post (basketballprospectus.com).

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    Because they reverted the line to its original distance for the '97/'98 season.
    Sheesh, I'm probably the only person on this forum who needed to be told that.

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    Unless the rules were changed, wouldn't it become a game of jump-shots? If even with the spacing there's today, it's difficult for bruisers to find space to score down low consistently, how would they beat defences that would need to defend a smaller area?
    Yes, it would. Check out the eFG% from the '70's:



    The circled area shows the time frame before the 3 point line was added to the NBA. As you can see, it was well all the years that followed, (though the lockout year was close, and the timeframe between Jordan leaving and LeBron/Wade/Melo/Howard, etal coming was a time of some truly crappy basketball.)

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    Yes, it would. Check out the eFG% from the '70's:



    The circled area shows the time frame before the 3 point line was added to the NBA. As you can see, it was well all the years that followed, (though the lockout year was close, and the timeframe between Jordan leaving and LeBron/Wade/Melo/Howard, etal coming was a time of some truly crappy basketball.)
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    I need an interpreter here.

    Are you saying the eFG% in the 70's is a good thing or bad thing?
    Sorry...bad thing.

    Ballpark, it was about 46%. cordobes point being (I think) that without the three, teams will still end up taking jump shots, and potentially taking more, because there is really no penalty for packing the defense around the paint.

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