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    another bold predition by a.s.break jim will change his mind on the vets

    UNLESS we are trying to showcase them.
    Doubtful.

    The rest of the league already knows they're mediocre at best.

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    I think success for the next year-and-a-half for the Pacers is pretty simple:

    -- Keep Danny Granger healthy.
    -- Play Hibbert, Hansbrough, Price and Rush at least 25 minutes a game.
    -- Surround them with players on one-year deals, a la Head and Watson, and Dunleavy and Murphy next year. Surround them with players who play hard, a la Jones and Foster.
    -- Add no more long-term salary.
    -- Draft well.
    -- Did I mention playing Hibbert, Hansbrough, Price and Rush at least 25 minutes a game?

    I suppose I didn't mention winning or coaching. Funny how that works.

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    Also on the bright side, the Knicks game has to be pretty near rock-bottom, right?

    It can only get better, one would hope, getting routed by a team that has no particular interest in winning this year but is biding time until lots of bloated contracts expire.

    We're playing without our #1 scoring option (Granger), our #2 scoring option (Murphy), our veteran rebounding center (Foster) and our power forward of the future (Hansbrough). Mix in our $8-million dollar man (TJ Ford) who is proving to be a bust, and it's no wonder we're getting drubbed....four starters + Tyler are missing in action! If that isn't enough, Dunleavy is gassed from not being in game shape yet. No team could be competitive under these conditions.
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    We're playing without our #1 scoring option (Granger), our #2 scoring option (Murphy), our veteran rebounding center (Foster) and our power forward of the future (Hansbrough). Mix in our $8-million dollar man (TJ Ford) who is proving to be a bust, and it's no wonder we're getting drubbed....four starters + Tyler are missing in action! No team could be competitive under these conditions.


    Don't forget we are paying tinsley.... There's another start player we could have with that money

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    Please make it stop. Remembering last year only makes this one more painful to live through. We actually beat the Lakers last year. Things like that only happen once a millennia.

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    I think success for the next year-and-a-half for the Pacers is pretty simple:

    -- Keep Danny Granger healthy.
    -- Play Hibbert, Hansbrough, Price and Rush at least 25 minutes a game.
    -- Surround them with players on one-year deals, a la Head and Watson, and Dunleavy and Murphy next year. Surround them with players who play hard, a la Jones and Foster.
    -- Add no more long-term salary.
    -- Draft well.
    -- Did I mention playing Hibbert, Hansbrough, Price and Rush at least 25 minutes a game?

    I suppose I didn't mention winning or coaching. Funny how that works.
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    He shot I believe 40 or 41% from both the field and from 3 last year in college, so I think he should become a decent jumpshooter for us, but probably not a slasher/finisher. Especially for a 2nd rounder, I can live with that if he can shoot around 40% from long range and be at least okay on D.
    better than what we got going on now! i think price will be come an excellent player for us...if we can keep him and get him minutes for some experince.

    but is tyler really good enough to be our next true power foward.....his he going to be are great jedi?
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    this post made me think about rush and his game....so i posted my thoughts on rush's game in the "Is Rush a Shooter" thread........and im bringing it here to get some of you all opinions....if you don't mind.
    Yeah, I saw your comment, and it was a D*MN good summary of Brandon Rush.

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    barring a trade or high draft pick (which I believe we should get just probably not the #1) I am going to make this bold prediction now.

    A.J. Price is our starting point guard next season. In fact I would not be suprised if he does not start getting the lions share of the min. in the second half of the season.

    This is not your typical late 2nd round pick. This guy has ice water in his veins and it not intimidated by anyone and certainly is not afraid to shoot.

    Is is possible that this years first and second round picks will end up being better in the long run than last years two first round picks? I like Roy and think he can be with the club for a long time and maybe even be a special player. But I also think that of Tyler.

    Here is where I am going out on a limb, but at this moment I think Price will end up being more with us than Rush. Brandon has played better of late but his dropoff has certainly been a dissapointment.

    But what I really hope is that all 4 become regulars here. Think about that in two drafts Bird has gotten us a center, a point guard, a power forward and a wing (I don't know if I would call him a shooting guard).

    With a good high quality pick this year then hopefully by the time next season rolls around we can at least get out of this nose dive that we are in.

    Thought I would look for a silver lining in some very dark clouds.
    Old news. I've been talking this for a while. You can check out some of my older threads.

    I think Its obvious all four of these need to be starting right now. Along with Granger we have a real team again. Along with Dunleavy, Watson, McRoberts and Foster coming off the bench, this is a very solid 9 man rotation for us at this point.

    Even if we suck it up this year and are mediocore this year and next, and get mid round picks, we still have 30 something million coming off the books in 2011. Birds draft record with where he has drafted is an A to me so far. AJ may be the steal of the draft. He is an NBA ready PG late in the second round, so we still get Hansboro, and a PG. Yea it was the most PG heavy draft and AJ may be the most underated PG of them all.

    Hibbert and Rush were obvious picks IMO. Next year we might actually be good even if we get say, a 10-15 pick, due to the progression of our young guys and Granger. Noone knows the future for sure.


    My question is if we draft a guy like John Wall how do we have the cap space to sign him? I mean he is going to get big bucks right? Maybe a mid round pick is more desireable so I havent given up. I just dont know what to do about Murphy or Ford. They just don't fit here, and noone wants them for their price. We are pretty much screwed. I don't know how we will get out of this but 60 something million dollars over the next 2 years for bench players or players that are no longer here? We are getting raped in this deal.

    Murphy is a great player, on another team. Ford would be a good player, on a winning team. People say he wouldn't fit on the Lakers, I think he would. Think of how wide open he would be in the lanes. He can create, and hit the midrange when wide open. I don't know why a team like LA wouldn't take a chance.

    And for Murphy, Im still shocked why Cleveland hasn't bit, he would actually be a good fit there with Lebron collapsing defenses. Last time I checked they still have Shaq. I wouldnt be surprised to see the big fella full speed come post season. Murphy would just kill the other teams with wide open threes. He would definitely shoot over 40 percent from three in Cleveland from three. Maybe another coach could use him more effectively than we are. You do have to admit he does have some talent. We just are by no means a strong defensive team so we can't allow a liability on defense like that, they could for 20 minutes a game. Murphy could easily get a double double for them in 20.


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    My question is if we draft a guy like John Wall how do we have the cap space to sign him? I mean he is going to get big bucks right? Maybe a mid round pick is more desireable so I havent given up. I just dont know what to do about Murphy or Ford. They just don't fit here, and noone wants them for their price. We are pretty much screwed. I don't know how we will get out of this but 60 something million dollars over the next 2 years for bench players or players that are no longer here? We are getting raped in this deal.

    Murphy is a great player, on another team. Ford would be a good player, on a winning team. People say he wouldn't fit on the Lakers, I think he would. Think of how wide open he would be in the lanes. He can create, and hit the midrange when wide open. I don't know why a team like LA wouldn't take a chance.

    And for Murphy, Im still shocked why Cleveland hasn't bit, he would actually be a good fit there with Lebron collapsing defenses. Last time I checked they still have Shaq. I wouldnt be surprised to see the big fella full speed come post season. Murphy would just kill the other teams with wide open threes. He would definitely shoot over 40 percent from three in Cleveland from three. Maybe another coach could use him more effectively than we are. You do have to admit he does have some talent. We just are by no means a strong defensive team so we can't allow a liability on defense like that, they could for 20 minutes a game. Murphy could easily get a double double for them in 20.
    John Wall will be like every other player drafted in the 1st round. He'll be on a 4 year rookie scale contract, with team options for the 3rd and 4th seasons. By rule, you are allowed to go over the cap to sign your 1st round draft picks. No team in the league has had a problem signing their first round picks ever since the league started rookie scale contracts in 1995. The only problems have been with international players with large buyouts with their previous pro team. And in some cases, players have changed their mind about wanting to play in the NBA after getting drafted (Fran Vazquez). Other than that, 1st round pick signability has been a non-issue.

    Murphy isn't a great player on any NBA team by any stretch of the word. He was a great NCAA player, I'll give you that. In the NBA, he's a decent change of pace backup bigman.
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