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    So why did they change the name from the Bullets to the Wizards again?

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    Arenas probe centers on locker-room standoff
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    An NBA investigation into Washington Wizards star Gilbert Arenas’(notes) possession of guns inside the team’s locker room has been linked to a confrontation with teammate Javaris Crittenton(notes), multiple sources told Yahoo! Sports.

    The league’s ongoing probe hopes to determine whether Arenas had accessed any of his unloaded firearms while engaged in the dispute prior to a team practice at the Verizon Center on Dec. 21 in Washington. Tensions between Arenas and Crittenton escalated because of a festering disagreement between the two players, sources said.

    Arenas told reporters on Tuesday the District of Columbia police also are investigating the circumstances under which he brought the guns to the arena. The D.C. police issued a statement on Wednesday saying they were assisting the U.S. Attorney’s Office in a joint investigation into “an allegation that weapons were located inside a locker room at the Verizon Center.” The statement did not name any individuals.
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    The district has stringent gun laws that prohibit the carrying of weapons, openly or concealed.

    The NBA is expected to wait to see if the law enforcement agencies file charges before the league acts. NBA security has been working with the Wizards to investigate the matter. Team officials had immediately reported the incident to the league office, and have been cooperating with law enforcement authorities.

    Several league sources believe NBA commissioner David Stern ultimately will mete out stiff penalties in the matter. Both Arenas and Crittenton could be subject to suspensions and fines.

    After CBSSports.com broke the story of the league’s investigation into Arenas’ gun possession on Dec. 24, the Wizards issued a statement saying Arenas had stored three unloaded firearms in a locked box inside his Verizon Center locker. Arenas has said he removed the guns from his home to keep them away from his three young children.

    When asked by reporters Tuesday night whether he had showed his weapons to anyone in the locker room, Arenas said, “Yes, I showed them to someone. I showed them to team security when I handed them to them and said give them to the police. Yes, I took them out of this locker room. I had to take them out to get them out of here to give to security.”

    Arenas said the investigation began two weeks ago. “They just wanted to know where I got [the guns] from,” he said, “and make sure they’re not dirty guns.”

    Arenas, who turns 28 next week, is a three-time All-Star and is in the second season of a six-year, $111 million contract with the Wizards.

    Crittenton, who turned 23 Thursday, hasn’t played this season for the Wizards, rehabbing from preseason foot surgery. He was the 19th pick in the 2007 NBA draft out of Georgia Tech and played for the Los Angeles Lakers and Memphis Grizzlies before being traded to Washington early last season.

    This investigation has been yet another blow to what the Wizards had hoped would be a renaissance season. So far, disharmony has reigned in the Wizards’ 10-20 start. The locker room has been marred with friction between Arenas and the coaching staff and players. Arenas had missed most of the past two seasons with injuries, and his return had raised expectations the Wizards would be strong playoff contenders in the Eastern Conference again.

    The Wizards are active in trade talks with multiple teams, league sources said, and willing to trade any player on their roster.

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    Well if the Pacers could acquire Arenas, it would be a renaissance of sorts here in Indy. Back to the good ole Tinsley and Jackson days.

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    He drew a gun on a teammate? I'd take Tinsley back on a max deal before getting Arenas.

    NBA players need to get smart and realize they don't need to hang out in the hood or have a bunch of guns anymore after they start making millions of dollars.

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    Now again why do the Pacers need Arenas? Besides not needing his albatross contract, the Pacers don't need this type of player AGAIN!

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    gilbert arenas might be the most untradeable player in the nba...ernie grunfeld (even though he is a former vol) has no business keeping his job as GM either. He traded a top 5 pick for two scrubs while giving gilbert the worst contract in the nba. not good. now this

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    gilbert arenas might be the most untradeable player in the nba...ernie grunfeld (even though he is a former vol) has no business keeping his job as GM either. He traded a top 5 pick for two scrubs while giving gilbert the worst contract in the nba. not good. now this
    All somewhat true, but hindsight is 20/20.

    At the time of his re-signing Arenas was one of the most popular athletes in Washington DC. The fans loved him here. At that time, it seemed to me that it was impossible to predict he would be this injury prone and his much of a problem around his teammates. Common argument in DC was that the fans would have been quite angry if he were let go and it would have hurt the team's bottom line, because people would literally come to Wizards games just to see Arenas.

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    I am pleased to note that there were no comparisons drawn to any former Pacers in this article. There probably will be when the punishments are handed out, but for now we have escaped any mention, which is a small testament to the progress we have made.

    Even without this, Arenas was not worth his contract, and I am glad that this (hopefully) seals the deal and keeps him from coming here.

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    If he was untradeable due to his contract, imagine how hard it will be to move him now.

    If they want to make changes, it'll have to be to move Butler or Jamison.

    Wonder if they would do Murph for Jamison. They won't lose much stats wise, they make about the same, except Murph is a year shorter

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    I take back everything I ever said about this bum. This guy is nuts. Forget him, I thought he'd be the most realistic EC trade pickup, but there is no way Bird takes that hot garbage.

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    I'm just remembering the JO to LA rumors with some Pacers fans drooling over JC being a throw in to the deal, and some Lakers fans insisting JC was untouchable.


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    If they want to make changes, it'll have to be to move Butler or Jamison.

    Wonder if they would do Murph for Jamison. They won't lose much stats wise, they make about the same, except Murph is a year shorter
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    I take back everything I ever said about this bum. This guy is nuts. Forget him, I thought he'd be the most realistic EC trade pickup, but there is no way Bird takes that hot garbage.

    Josh Howard
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    Its pretty much down to these guys at the trade deadline next year.
    Devin Harris, please! Kevin Martin too, if we must!

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    Another argument for the need in non-guaranteed contracts in the NBA....
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    its an argument for not signing mentally unstable people to $100 million contracts.

    At the very most, maybe an amendment making certain acts grounds for termination, such as bringing a gun into a locker room.

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    At the very most, maybe an amendment making certain acts grounds for termination, such as bringing a gun into a locker room.
    This is something I think is sorely needed in the next CBA. It's one thing if you **** up and give a guy too much money for his play, but if that guy is doing non-basketball things that hurt your franchise, you should have an eject button of some kind in those scenarios. And not just "well, he was convicted" like it seems to be now.

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    So what could potentially be the punishment here? A fine and 1-year suspension? Not nearly enough...too bad they can't take the millions away and send him packing.

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    A 1-year suspension to Arenas is essentially a $17 million fine in itself. It would be the most money lost to 1 incident in NBA history.

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    I am quite confused. He had three guns in a locked box that were unloaded that he showed to team security. It doesn't sound like he did anything wrong? He didnt shoot up a night club am I wrong? I can probally say 90% of nba players have guns does that make them horrible?

    I doubt he gets suspended. I mean for crying out loud the cavs west got caught with three guns that were loaded with no serials and nothing happened to him.

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    if you dont understand the difference between stupidly having guns on your own time and stupidly bringing them on to NBA property, there's a whole lot you don't understand about business.

    This is the last thing the NBA wants. They will throw the fear of god into any player that wants to bring a gun on to NBA property from now on.

    I don't care if they were loaded, unloaded or filled with taffy. The headline, "NBA players pull guns on each other in locker room" scares the living **** out of David Stern.
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    What a bone head move, what is Arenas & Critterton thinking? You get paid Millions to play a game you love, enjoy it. I understand that some players can feel the need to protect themselves, but to bring guns to the Arena, is just stupid.

    So you think Arenas & Critterton will be suspended? Certainly some kind of punishment along those lines will be in order from Stern. And Arenas's contract, wow, the Wiz got problems, and we don't need them.

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    Maybe this will help clear a bit up: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,...est=latestnews

    An NBA all-star and his Washington Wizards teammate reportedly drew guns on each other in the team's locker room during a Christmas Eve fight over a gambling debt, the New York Post reports.

    Gilbert Arenas, 27, went for his gun first, the Post reported, citing unnamed inside sources. His teammate Javaris Crittenton, 22, allegedly brandished a firearm as well.

    It was unclear whether other teammates saw the standoff inside the Verizon Center in Washington, D.C., the Post reported.

    The Wizards announced on Christmas Day that Arenas had admitted to bringing guns to the locker room and had turned them over to team security. The NBA club's statement didn't disclose how Wizards officials discovered that Arenas was storing weapons on the job.

    "It's in the hands of [Washington] authorities," Wizards General Manager Ernie Grunfeld, a former star Knicks player and president, told the Post, declining to go into details. "We're going to get to the bottom of this, if there is a bottom to this."

    Washington police said they were investigating Arenas for gun-possession violations.


    And the full story here: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/nationa...DRgTSuVKDQ8XBO


    Guess they're still the Bullets at heart.

    NBA all-star Gilbert Arenas and his Washing ton Wizards teammate Javaris Crittenton drew guns on each other in the team's locker room during a Christmas Eve dispute over a gambling debt, The Post has learned.

    League sources say the pistol-packing point guards had heat ers at the ready inside the Verizon Center, the Washington, DC, home of the Wizards -- whose name was changed from the Bullets over gun- vi olence concerns.

    It was the three- time all-star Arenas, 27, who went for his gun first, sources said, draw ing on the 22-year-old Crit tenton, who quickly brandished a firearm as well.

    It was not clear whether other teammates saw the shocking standoff, which happened on a practice day.

    The duel in DC -- unprecedented in sports history -- was sparked when Critten ton became enraged at the vet eran guard for refusing to make good on a gambling debt, a source said.

    "I'm not your punk!" Crittenton shouted at Arenas, according to a league source close to the Wizards.

    That prompted Arenas to draw on Crittenton, who then also grabbed for a gun, league security sources said.

    A playground pal of Crittenton's from Atlanta, Kendrick "Bookie Ball" Long, confirmed the locker-room standoff and said he learned of it directly from the third-year player out of Georgia Tech.

    "He [Arenas] was f- - -ing with him; he [Crittenton] was just defending himself!" declared Long, who said the dispute was over money but would not elaborate.

    The Wizards announced on Christmas Day that Arenas had admitted to bringing guns to the locker room and had turned them over to team security. No ammunition was handed over.

    The NBA club's statement didn't disclose how Wizards officials discovered that Arenas was storing weapons on the job.

    But a league source said Arenas' weapons were uncovered only after the confrontation with Crittenton.

    Wizards General Manager Ernie Grunfeld declined to comment. "It's in the hands of [Washington] authorities," said Grunfeld, a former star Knicks player and president. "We're going to get to the bottom of this, if there is a bottom to this."

    Washington police said they were investigating Arenas for gun-possession violations. But the Wizards' gun grab has also drawn the attention of the feds.

    "We're working with the Metropolitan Police Department on the investigation. That's about all we can say at his point," said Ben Friedman, a spokesman for the US Attorney's Office in DC.

    The feds have been investigating gambling within the NBA since disgraced ex-referee Tim Donaghy admitted betting on games and feeding information to bookies. It was not clear whether the gambling debt that sparked the Arenas-Crittenton duel had anything to do with league games.

    A top players-union official said he was shocked by the allegations. "This is unprecedented in the history of sports," said Player's Association Executive Director Billy Hunter. "I've never heard of players pulling guns on each other in a locker room."

    Team owner Abe Pollin -- his sensitivity heightened by the fatal shooting of his good friend Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin in 1995 -- changed the club from the Bullets to the Wizards in 1997 because he didn't like the violent overtones of the original name. Pollin died in November.

    Arenas, who has three kids, reportedly told team officials he brought guns to his Verizon Center locker so they wouldn't be close to his newborn at their home in Great Falls, Va.

    He denied pulling a gun on Crittenton and even mocked the suggestion he would ever point a weapon at a teammate.

    "You guys, I wanted to go rob banks, I wanted to be a bank robber on the weekends," Arenas said sarcastically after a game this week.

    Firearm laws in Washington are among the nation's strictest. Until a recent US Supreme Court ruling, private ownership of guns was illegal in the nation's capital.

    As it stands now, gun owners are allowed to transport firearms only within DC under very limited circumstances -- such as taking the weapon to be registered or to a practice range. There's no provision under current DC law for a private citizen to have a gun at work.

    In 2003, Arenas pleaded guilty to misdemeanor charges of carrying a concealed weapon in San Francisco.

    Arenas claimed the gun was legally registered in Arizona -- where he was star player for the University of Arizona Wildcats -- and said he forgot he needed California authorization to carry it there.

    Crittenton hasn't played a minute this season for the Wizards and has struggled to overcome a bone bruise and strained tendons.

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    Gilbert and JC should be suspended for the rest of the year for this. What astounds me more is that the Wizards allow Gilbert to keep a unloaded weapon the locker room. That is just trouble waiting to happen. . . .

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    Now the second article makes more sense. I did not know where they got the headline that they pulled guns on each other. It simply said he had guns in a locked box that team security knew about. It also said the guns were unloaded so I didnt see the problem with that.

    He in texas you can carry firearms with you if you have your permit so sorry if my knowledge of gun laws in washington are not up to par.

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    If Artest gets suspended for the season for throwing a punch, Arenas suspension has to be greater than a year with pulling a gun on a teammate on NBA property. If not, then Stern shafted the Pacers in the brawl.... well, we already knew it, but it will be so obvious there will be no defense for the NBA redarding it now.

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