Bird said he has no intention of changing coaches. If anything changes it will be the roster.
Anybody wanting serious changes are in for a long wait.
No surprise there.
I personally can see this affecting Murphy, Diener and the first round pick. Eh i dont know.
Isn't this the equivalent of "He has my total support?"
Yet some people will still defend Bird until the bitter end?
Also Wells replied to my question to him asking if he asked the question of if Bird just volunteered the information.
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Isn't that what they said about Lawrence, Byron, and Vinny?
"We are fully behind Mr. _______"
"I keep wondering the same thing. Last week they had the 4th worst record in the league, had an 11.9 percent chance of winning the lottery and were in line to land a franchise type player like Derrick Favors or DeMarcus Cousins. This week? They have a 1.7 percent chance of winning the lottery, have the 8th worst record and are in line to draft Cole Aldrich or Greg Monroe. Way to go Jim O'Brien. Rest Danny Granger the rest of the season (if it isn't too late) and give Josh McRoberts lots of minutes. That ought to do it." - Chad Ford on winning meaningless games
Way to go Jim, you may have just put our franchise back another 4+ years.
Did you reply that decorum prevents you from passing on the responses of many of the forum members?
A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
Or throw in a first-round pick and flip it for a max-level point guard...
Don't mind that sound, it's just me gritting my teeth.
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I still think JOB will be fired by the end of the season.
Why is he sticking with JOB, beside the financial commitment? I haven't seen JOB do anything worthy of keeping his job, though I know it's not all his fault. It wouldn't be knee jerk response, JOB has had time.
Is Bird just covering for what is true intentions are? What roster moves would he make, besides moving Murph?
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What would firing O'Brien fix?
The only positive in not firing him is saving them some money. But then the saving money argument was brought up when he was given the extension, and they will still have to pay him next year as well, so it's not even a positive really.
EDIT: If they didn't extend his contract this wouldn't even be a discussion.
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1. He's already sat TJ.
2. If we sit those players we'll never be able to trade them, and we need to get them out of here. Thus they need to demonstrate they can play.
3. The younger/newer guys are leading the team in minutes played.
4. I'm not a very big fan of most of the younger guys. To be honest, I don't think there's a lot there to develop in Rush. The Jones guys are pretty much what they are. I don't see a lot of development happening there.
So that leaves Tyler and Hibbert. Tyler's getting significant and fairly regular minutes. He's not encouraging me at least. Hibbert is the only one of the younger guys I'd quibble with. I'd like to see him get a more steady flow of minutes, but big guys are slow to come along and it's tough to play him against some teams in any case because he's not exactly quick.
So at the end of the day, I just look at this bunch of guys and think it's not all that great and a new coach isn't going to fix it.
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Well now all I can say is, Bird must go too!
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If a team not playing hard isn't a reflection of the coach and GM, I don't know what is. Bird has a chance to atone for his mistake by acknowledging it and trying to fix it. Instead he says f-u? I don't get it. It's either his fault or Obie's? But Larry is one of those guys who blames everyone around him instead, and he has plenty of apologists to back him up unfortunately. A lot of people on here don't like Jermaine, but he is a spitting image of Larry Bird the GM. They both have the superstar attitude while lacking the performance to justify it. In fact I have seen a lot of that in Pacers players since Bird got here...............things that make you go hmm, I guess.
He better stop and realize his legacy around Indiana is at stake. If he don't do something substantial, and soon, people around here will remember him as much for his destruction of the Pacers than his coaching or even his days at Indiana State.
Personally I think the more they play the more they hurt their trade value.2. If we sit those players we'll never be able to trade them, and we need to get them out of here. Thus they need to demonstrate they can play.
And let's be honest here, they aren't getting traded for their talent. These guys have a better chance of being moved as expirings. We are HOPING they get moved to a contender looking for a bump that comes with a dump trade option next year, but that's probably an iffy hope.
Bird tried to trade TJ in the summer, and I would bet he put Troy's name out there too simply because of the contract. Troy was coming off his best statistical season ever, so his value for trade-as-talent was at it's peak. Not a lot of smoke around that fire.
Why you fire him?
Get a guy while you can, if you have someone you are interested in.
Get a sense of what type of coaching your roster will have in order to modify your roster adjustment plans now before deals are done.
Show the players a sign of hope for progress and change if they have lost FAITH in JOB. Not support, not effort, but trust and faith that the guy knows what he's doing. Like if your pilot asked if anyone knew what most of the funny knobs did, you might lose faith and trust in his abilities as a pilot but would still 100% want to fly to where you were headed.