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    Default O Brien should resign, Bird should step in as coach

    As has been beat to death here ad nauseum , I think we can all agree that it is time for O Brien to move on to other things in his life. I think we can also agree that it will be extremly difficult to bring in a high quality coach mid season into this mess.

    I think Bird should take over

    He personally made the decision to pick O Brien out, give him an extension, and ultimitley fire him

    He has coached with sucess before (albeit a totally different team)

    Bird can decide whom to play and whom to sit

    All players will get a "fresh start" to prove themselves

    Bird will be able to evaluate the players for this year and beyond from his point of view while in game, instead of on the sidelines

    It gives fans hope that something is being done. One can argue that change for the sake of change is no good, but if you dont do somethjing you run the risk of losing the fans, and possibly the franchise

    Bird can also evaluate the coaching staff and where changes need to be made

    Bottom line is Bird is directly responsible for the current state of the Pacers. fair or not, he is the CEO and the results fall on him

    Step up Bird, or step out
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    He said he's done coaching.
    "I keep wondering the same thing. Last week they had the 4th worst record in the league, had an 11.9 percent chance of winning the lottery and were in line to land a franchise type player like Derrick Favors or DeMarcus Cousins. This week? They have a 1.7 percent chance of winning the lottery, have the 8th worst record and are in line to draft Cole Aldrich or Greg Monroe. Way to go Jim O'Brien. Rest Danny Granger the rest of the season (if it isn't too late) and give Josh McRoberts lots of minutes. That ought to do it." - Chad Ford on winning meaningless games

    Way to go Jim, you may have just put our franchise back another 4+ years.

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    He said he's done coaching.
    I understand but if he doesnt then I would make Morway full time GM, Lester the intern coach and continue the search for a coach over the summer
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    Yeah theres Byron Scott, Lawrence Frank, Terry Porter (Just kidding), and of course JVG.
    "I keep wondering the same thing. Last week they had the 4th worst record in the league, had an 11.9 percent chance of winning the lottery and were in line to land a franchise type player like Derrick Favors or DeMarcus Cousins. This week? They have a 1.7 percent chance of winning the lottery, have the 8th worst record and are in line to draft Cole Aldrich or Greg Monroe. Way to go Jim O'Brien. Rest Danny Granger the rest of the season (if it isn't too late) and give Josh McRoberts lots of minutes. That ought to do it." - Chad Ford on winning meaningless games

    Way to go Jim, you may have just put our franchise back another 4+ years.

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    Yeah theres Byron Scott, Lawrence Frank, Terry Porter (Just kidding), and of course JVG.
    After last nights debacle I would take Porter in a heartbeat
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    After last nights debacle I would take Porter in a heartbeat
    I forgot about Sam Mitchell. He's a good coach IIRC.
    "I keep wondering the same thing. Last week they had the 4th worst record in the league, had an 11.9 percent chance of winning the lottery and were in line to land a franchise type player like Derrick Favors or DeMarcus Cousins. This week? They have a 1.7 percent chance of winning the lottery, have the 8th worst record and are in line to draft Cole Aldrich or Greg Monroe. Way to go Jim O'Brien. Rest Danny Granger the rest of the season (if it isn't too late) and give Josh McRoberts lots of minutes. That ought to do it." - Chad Ford on winning meaningless games

    Way to go Jim, you may have just put our franchise back another 4+ years.

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    Yeah theres Byron Scott, Lawrence Frank, Terry Porter (Just kidding), and of course JVG.
    JVG? And I wonder if Hubie Brown would ever coach again.

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    JVG? And I wonder if Hubie Brown would ever coach again.
    What about either Brian Shaw ( Lakers top Assistant) Tom Tibedau ( Celtics top defensive coach) or Monty Williams ( San Antonios top assistant)

    Heck bring back Keith Smart (Golden State) and his IU ties
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    JVG? And I wonder if Hubie Brown would ever coach again.
    IDK, of course theres the Mark Jacksons and Joe Dumars of the world.

    Avery Johnson. Can't stand him, but it's a real coach.
    "I keep wondering the same thing. Last week they had the 4th worst record in the league, had an 11.9 percent chance of winning the lottery and were in line to land a franchise type player like Derrick Favors or DeMarcus Cousins. This week? They have a 1.7 percent chance of winning the lottery, have the 8th worst record and are in line to draft Cole Aldrich or Greg Monroe. Way to go Jim O'Brien. Rest Danny Granger the rest of the season (if it isn't too late) and give Josh McRoberts lots of minutes. That ought to do it." - Chad Ford on winning meaningless games

    Way to go Jim, you may have just put our franchise back another 4+ years.

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    Default Re: O Brien should resign, Bird should step in as coach

    None of the top names would come here in the middle of the season

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    None of the top names will come here, at all.

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    As has been beat to death here ad nauseum , I think we can all agree that it is time for O Brien to move on to other things in his life. I think we can also agree that it will be extremly difficult to bring in a high quality coach mid season into this mess.

    I think Bird should take over

    He personally made the decision to pick O Brien out, give him an extension, and ultimitley fire him

    He has coached with sucess before (albeit a totally different team)

    Bird can decide whom to play and whom to sit

    All players will get a "fresh start" to prove themselves

    Bird will be able to evaluate the players for this year and beyond from his point of view while in game, instead of on the sidelines

    It gives fans hope that something is being done. One can argue that change for the sake of change is no good, but if you dont do somethjing you run the risk of losing the fans, and possibly the franchise

    Bird can also evaluate the coaching staff and where changes need to be made

    Bottom line is Bird is directly responsible for the current state of the Pacers. fair or not, he is the CEO and the results fall on him

    Step up Bird, or step out

    Your signature is seriously offensive.
    *removed* Just keep politics and religion completely out of it, please.

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    None of the top names will come here, at all.
    Yeah, that is true. Why would someone like JVG leave broadcasting and coach this team. It makes no sense. The Pacers would have to offer probably $10M per year for probably 5 or 6 years for a top NBA coach to consider coaching this team

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    I don't know about that - some people like a challenge.

    You could always give a college coach his first shot at the bigs.

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    What about either Brian Shaw ( Lakers top Assistant) Tom Tibedau ( Celtics top defensive coach) or Monty Williams ( San Antonios top assistant)

    Any of these 3 would be fine with me. I don't want another coach with a Celtic connection, but I wouldn't be against Tom T.

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    Your signature is seriously offensive.
    ?

    Are you saying my signature is offensive?

    If so , please tell me why

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    Any of these 3 would be fine with me. I don't want another coach with a Celtic connection, but I wouldn't be against Tom T.
    Tom T has been the "hot name" the last couple of years due to the sucess he has had on the defensive end
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    Your signature is seriously offensive.
    It's a quote from a rap album, and a fairly accurate one, given the time and place it references. I see nothing offensive about it.

    All the same, I don't think this is the proper forum for it.
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    The title of this thread is comical, "O'Brien should resign." He won't leave his job unless he's forced out.

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    Default Re: O Brien should resign, Bird should step in as coach

    Can we have a moratorium relating to new threads dedicated to Bird coaching the Pacers again? Please?

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    Default Re: O Brien should resign, Bird should step in as coach

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    It's a quote from a rap album, and a fairly accurate one, given the time and place it references. I see nothing offensive about it.

    All the same, I don't think this is the proper forum for it.
    I think he said this because I said his line was bad

    his line : "Tyler is my Jesus Chrsit"

    I find that 1000 times more offensive than any sig line I have seen on this board
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    The title of this thread is comical, "O'Brien should resign." He won't leave his job unless he's forced out.
    Its not comical,

    It would be a "forced resignation" like he is fired but it is titled "resign" to save face
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    Default Re: O Brien should resign, Bird should step in as coach

    The only thing I could see is a coach coming on board at the end of the year knowing you have Danny Granger, a high draft pick and 40 something million to go shopping with the following year. That could be attractive to a good coach. D'Antoni did it, albeit in a big market on much less.

    The only thing I've seen mentioned is let an assistant do it in the interim. Hell, Obie probably be thankful at this point if that happened. Give it to Lester Conner with an interim title.

    I'm saying do this, if Obie has lost the team, which it sure looks like it. I mean the losing is like a weight right now and it's making him the scapegoat, but it's the easiest move. You can't change the team.

    Then you go into the offseason with some assets and look for a new coach.

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    I think he said this because I said his line was bad

    his line : "Tyler is my Jesus Chrsit"

    I find that 1000 times more offensive than any sig line I have seen on this board
    And I don't find it offensive at all, which means its all very subjective, which means you should have just held your tongue to begin with instead of making an issue about it.

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    I think he said this because I said his line was bad

    his line : "Tyler is my Jesus Chrsit"

    I find that 1000 times more offensive than any sig line I have seen on this board
    Fair enough, though I find that just plain stupid, rather than offensive.

    I think Tyler himself might find it offensive, though.

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