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    Word is the Bulls are about to do it. Possibly Lawrence Frank.

    Honestly, I hope we beat them to it and grab Lawrence if he's interested.
    As much as I am telling myself that "A change will do us good..." I still don't see that happening. Stagnancy is the norm in this state with the exception of Purdue Hoops.

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    From Pacers.com's live blog w/ Conrad Brunner:

    "Why is T.J. Ford smiling? ... Timeout with 2:24 left and Miami up 33, 90-57."

    I think that's pretty telling.

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    Word is the Bulls are about to do it. Possibly Lawrence Frank.

    Honestly, I hope we beat them to it and grab Lawrence if he's interested.
    That would be a nice move by the Bulls, I like Frank, and even better he has Hoosier ties. I'm sure the Bulls would be a better situation for him.

    Who would be interested in the Pacers? Mark Jackson, Byron Scott, Sam Mitchell?

    I'm trying to think of coaching possibilities with ties to the Pacers that may want the job?

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    On a side note I love the idea of axing JOB and bringin in Mark Jackson for the rest of the season. I'm sure he would come here.
    Why would he come here now when he wouldn't three seasons ago??

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    From Pacers.com's live blog w/ Conrad Brunner:

    "Why is T.J. Ford smiling? ... Timeout with 2:24 left and Miami up 33, 90-57."

    I think that's pretty telling.
    I'm not certain what it is telling us. It could be telling us that TJ's head is not in the game, that he doesn't care about winning. It could also be an expression of frustration over a call. I saw him smile sarcastically once during the game right after being called for a foul but before a time out - might have been the one Conrad was referencing, I don't know for sure.

    Also, I am sure I am not the only one who has smiled or laughed during a moment of tension or inner turmoil. Might look totally inappropriate, but it's a pretty common response.

    I'm not trying to defend TJ - I don't know what is going on in his head - more just trying to point out there is more than one plausible interpretation of it.
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    Perhaps I'm missing something, but when was the last time a coach was fired mid-season, and someone has taken over mid-season that wasn't already on the coaching staff, or within the organization?
    I asked that same question several weeks ago. A good coach will not come in from the outside in the middle of an awful season. Interium until the summer and then you might be able to get a good coach, but not now. Unless you pay a ton of money

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    From Pacers.com's live blog w/ Conrad Brunner:

    "Why is T.J. Ford smiling? ... Timeout with 2:24 left and Miami up 33, 90-57."

    I think that's pretty telling.
    See that is one of my biggest pet peeves. And no I don't mean guys smiling on the bench in a blowout loss. I didn't see any of the game tonight, but I assume Conrad is going by what he saw on TV. Who knows what Ford was doing the other 99% of the time the camera wasn't on him, he might have been pissed and then the camera catched the split second Ford was smiling and we have no idea what he was smiling at.

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    See that is one of my biggest pet peeves. And no I don't mean guys smiling on the bench in a blowout loss. I didn't see any of the game tonight, but I assume Conrad is going by what he saw on TV. Who knows what Ford was doing the other 99% of the time the camera wasn't on him, he might have been pissed and then the camera catched the split second Ford was smiling and we have no idea what he was smiling at.
    I agree with that.

    And even if his laughing were inappropriate, I might laugh too if I had to play with Troy Murphy. Talk about morbid humor.

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    True, it could be nothing. Maybe I'm giving Conrad too much credit.

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    Who can we bench next? Cause that is always the answer.

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    Who can we bench next? Cause that is always the answer.
    We never did bench Murph and TJ. They just got injured during the five game win streak.
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    True, it could be nothing. Maybe I'm giving Conrad too much credit.
    I just think you have to be there in person to get any sense of what is going on. Even as a fan I might be laughing in a blowout loss and that doesn't mean I am happy about it, but if the camera caught my laugh, someone could easily say, see he doesn't care

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    Why would he come here now when he wouldn't three seasons ago??
    Can you back that statement up? I was not aware of Mark Jackson turning the job down, or if the job was even offered to him. I only remember hearing it offered to both of the Van Gundy's.

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    Can you back that statement up? I was not aware of Mark Jackson turning the job down, or if the job was even offered to him. I only remember hearing it offered to both of the Van Gundy's.
    There were some widely distributed quotes from Mark Jackson (during the period of time three sesons ago when the Pacers were looking for a coach) where he said he had no interest coaching this team. there were a few threads discussing this. are they still around, I guess it would be May of 2006

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    Who can we bench next? Cause that is always the answer.
    He'll probably bench D. Jones and Hibbert to start Rush at the SG and Tyler at the PF while sliding Murphy to the C.

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    There were some widely distributed quotes from Mark Jackson (during the period of time three sesons ago when the Pacers were looking for a coach) where he said he had no interest coaching this team. there were a few threads discussing this. are they still around, I guess it would be May of 2006
    Okay yes I do remember this, but I thought it was more Jackson did not want to have 2 bosses, IE Bird and Walsh.

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    Okay yes I do remember this, but I thought it was more Jackson did not want to have 2 bosses, IE Bird and Walsh.
    And the team he was not interested in coaching included Tinsley, Jack, and JO.
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    Who can we bench next? Cause that is always the answer.
    we can send the coach home, can we?

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    Can you back that statement up? I was not aware of Mark Jackson turning the job down, or if the job was even offered to him. I only remember hearing it offered to both of the Van Gundy's.

    OK, here it is


    http://pacersdigest.com/showthread.php?t=31152&page=2


    We speculated who was the other guy of the 4 that Vescey mentioned and yes it is SVG.

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    A KURT RESPONSE
    By PETER VECSEY


    May 11, 2007 --
    Contrary to a Daily News report, Herb Williams is not on the Pacers' short list of head coaching aspirants to be interviewed as Rick Carlisle's replacement. The four targeted by Donnie Walsh and Larry Bird: Stan Van Gundy, Lakers aide Brian Shaw, Bulls assistant Jim Boylan and Sam Mitchell, should his current negotiation with Toronto regarding a new deal break down.

    Several days ago, Mark Jackson told YES Network's Mike Kay he's not interested in taking a job with a Pacers team he feels has too many bosses running the show and re-stirring the roster. "No disrespect to Donnie or Larry," Jackson said, "but it's hard enough to redecorate on the same wave length as visionary."

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    Jackson said, "but it's hard enough to redecorate on the same wave length as visionary."
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    what does this even mean?

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    We never did bench Murph and TJ. They just got injured during the five game win streak.
    I thought Ford only missed 1 game. And I thought he played rather well in the games he did play

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    Okay then I think bird should be in talks with Jackson to replace JOB. I think he come here this time around. Its really the only way Jackson gets a chance at a Head coaching position in this league. Most GM's are not going to give him a chance with no experience, so its got to be one he has played for. He can finish out the season to learn the ropes and and gain experience in what most see as a completely lost season.

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    If Jim gets fired, Dick Harter would be our new hesd coach. Lester Conner would leave as well, Bird wouldn't do it, and theres no way he goes out and gets a coach that has never coached.

    But I'm all for it.
    "I keep wondering the same thing. Last week they had the 4th worst record in the league, had an 11.9 percent chance of winning the lottery and were in line to land a franchise type player like Derrick Favors or DeMarcus Cousins. This week? They have a 1.7 percent chance of winning the lottery, have the 8th worst record and are in line to draft Cole Aldrich or Greg Monroe. Way to go Jim O'Brien. Rest Danny Granger the rest of the season (if it isn't too late) and give Josh McRoberts lots of minutes. That ought to do it." - Chad Ford on winning meaningless games

    Way to go Jim, you may have just put our franchise back another 4+ years.

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    I'd rather wait for the right coach before making any major decisions. No more gimmicks, no more experiments.

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    If Jim gets fired, Dick Harter would be our new hesd coach. Lester Conner would leave as well, Bird wouldn't do it, and theres no way he goes out and gets a coach that has never coached.

    But I'm all for it.
    I feel that Harter is tool old to take on something like that. Pass.

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