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The Reggie Miller Chat 12/15/09

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  • The Reggie Miller Chat 12/15/09

    12:25
    Reggie Miller will be joining us shortly to discuss the movie premier he announced today for Feb. 26 in Indianapolis. The movie, directed by Dan Klores, will focus on the Pacers-Knicks rivalry of the 1990s. The press release can be found here: http://www.nba.com/pacers/news/reggi...se_091215.html. My blog about the event can be found here: http://my.nba.com/cms/105088/reggie_...ivalry_in_indy
    Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:25
    12:28
    [Comment From Matt V. Matt V.: ]
    Do you feel like you left the game to soon? Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:28 Matt V.


    12:28
    I wouldn't say too soon. After 18 years how can anyone say that's too soon. Did I still have a little bit left in the tank? Probably so. Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:28


    12:29
    [Comment From Ruby from Brownsburg Ruby from Brownsburg: ]
    What can we expect at the movie premiere? Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:29 Ruby from Brownsburg


    12:30
    Reggie Miller:
    A lot of reminiscing. A lot of laughs. A very, very good film. It's not a movie, it's a film. Get your $10 and popcorn, bring a date, bring the family, and come on down. Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:30 Reggie Miller


    12:30
    [Comment From Ashley Ashley: ]
    Do you still spend a lot of time in Indiana? Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:30 Ashley


    12:30
    Reggie Miller:
    As much time as I can when work brings me here. I always try to come back because for me this was one of the best places to grow and I feel I grew up here in Indiana. Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:30 Reggie Miller


    12:30
    [Comment From Diana Compton Diana Compton: ]
    what was it like working on this movie? quite different from basket ball practice i would assume. Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:30 Diana Compton


    12:31
    Reggie Miller:
    Yes. At first I was a little hesitant on doing the film because it brought up a lot of old wounds. But director Dan Klores shared with me his vision for the film and I was excited to be a part of it.
    Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:31 Reggie Miller


    12:31
    [Comment From Zach H Zach H: ]
    What do the pacers need to do to get back to they way they were in the 90's? Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:31 Zach H


    12:31
    Reggie Miller:
    Stay healthy. Continue to play hard. Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:31 Reggie Miller


    12:32
    [Comment From Kyle Kyle: ]
    Do you you see yourself in a coaching position down the road? Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:32 Kyle


    12:32
    Reggie Miller:
    Coaching. ... I will never say never but as of now, no. Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:32 Reggie Miller


    12:32
    [Comment From Justin Justin: ]
    have you screened this movie? Do you feel it portrays the playoff series accurately? Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:32 Justin


    12:33
    Reggie Miller:
    One hundred percent correct. And yes I have screened the film. And the Pacers come out ahead. Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:33 Reggie Miller


    12:33
    Reggie Miller:
    Spoiler alert. Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:33 Reggie Miller


    12:33
    [Comment From Mike from Indy Mike from Indy: ]
    How often do you get a chance to watch the Pacers? Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:33 Mike from Indy


    12:33
    Reggie Miller:
    I have the NBA package so I watch the Pacers at home as much as I can. Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:33 Reggie Miller


    12:34
    [Comment From peteytheref peteytheref: ]
    What former Pacers teammates do you still stay in constant contact with? Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:34 peteytheref


    12:34
    Reggie Miller:
    Mark Jackson, Dale Davis, Derrick McKey, Antonio Davis. Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:34 Reggie Miller


    12:34
    [Comment From Mary Jo Mary Jo: ]
    what do you think oh Tyler Hansbrough so far? Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:34 Mary Jo


    12:35
    Reggie Miller:
    I love young players that work hard and sacrifice for the betterment of the team. Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:35 Reggie Miller


    12:35
    [Comment From Mike from Indy Mike from Indy: ]
    If you could make a film about any basketball player, dead or alive, who would you feature? Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:35 Mike from Indy


    12:35
    Reggie Miller:
    I would make two. One about Bill Russell and of course Michael Jordan. Both would be huge sellers. Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:35 Reggie Miller


    12:36
    [Comment From Justin Justin: ]
    Was your own production company involved in the film? Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:36 Justin


    12:36
    Reggie Miller:
    Yes, BoomBaby productions was involved. I was the producer and Gail D'Agostino was a producer as well. Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:36 Reggie Miller


    12:36
    [Comment From Jacob Darling Jacob Darling: ]
    Did you work with Spike Lee at all with the movie? Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:36 Jacob Darling


    12:36
    Reggie Miller:
    I personally did not work with him but I did call him up to advise him it would be very wise for him to be a part of this project. Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:36 Reggie Miller


    12:37
    Reggie Miller:
    I made him an offer he couldn't refuse. Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:37 Reggie Miller


    12:37
    [Comment From Ashley Ashley: ]
    What do you miss most about playing basketball? Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:37 Ashley


    12:37
    Reggie Miller:
    I think the cameraderie, hanging around with the guys, the buses, the planes. Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:37 Reggie Miller


    12:37
    [Comment From Guest Guest: ]
    Will the film be premiering at Sundance? I am heading up there from LA and was hoping to check it out! Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:37 Guest


    12:37
    Reggie Miller:
    It will be at Sundance in January. Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:37 Reggie Miller


    12:38
    [Comment From Steve G. Steve G.: ]
    Was the transition from the insane NBA schedule to 'citizen' a tough one? Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:38 Steve G.


    12:38
    Reggie Miller:
    Not really. I know what -- my body enjoyed being a citizen again. Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:38 Reggie Miller


    12:39
    [Comment From Jeff H Jeff H: ]
    I listened to Dan Klores on Bill Simmons podcast, and despite being a die hard knicks fan, he seemed to have tons of praise and respect for you as a player (Defending you against simmons very strongly). Did you feel he had this respect for you immeditately or did you see his admiration of you as a player grow as you continued to work with him on the project? Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:39 Jeff H


    12:39
    Reggie Miller:
    What I did not know was Dan was a huge Pacer fan even though he grew up in New York City, so that drew me to him for this project. Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:39 Reggie Miller


    12:39
    [Comment From Matt Matt: ]
    do you still tape 2 quarters under your wristband while you commentate games Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:39 Matt


    12:39
    Reggie Miller:
    Yes. ... JK.JKJK... I tape them to Marv's wrists. Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:39 Reggie Miller


    12:40
    [Comment From Matt V. Matt V.: ]
    Do you think that you will ever be with the Pacers in anyway again? Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:40 Matt V.


    12:40
    Reggie Miller:
    Again, I will never say never. I think I'll always be a part of the Pacers organization in some way or another. Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:40 Reggie Miller


    12:40
    [Comment From Matt Matt: ]
    will haywood workman make it as a ref? Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:40 Matt


    12:40
    Reggie Miller:
    He has made it because he's in the NBA. Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:40 Reggie Miller


    12:41
    [Comment From kraig31 kraig31: ]
    Of all your last second heroics, I feel the most underrated was the half-court bank shot against the Nets to force overtime followed by the dunk to force a second overtime. What do you think is your most underrated performance? Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:41 kraig31


    12:41
    Reggie Miller:
    I'd go with that Nets series. Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:41 Reggie Miller


    12:41
    [Comment From Zach W Zach W: ]
    How long until Mark Jackson gets a coaching job, and would you enjoy being on the same staff as him? Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:41 Zach W


    12:41
    Reggie Miller:
    He should've already had a coaching job but it's only a matter of time. Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:41 Reggie Miller


    12:42
    [Comment From Justin Justin: ]
    What was one of your best memories of Mel Simon? Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:42 Justin


    12:42
    Reggie Miller:
    My favorite is when he came out of the stands and offered his glasses to the referee. Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:42 Reggie Miller


    12:42
    [Comment From Matt Matt: ]
    has frank calendo done your voice yet? Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:42 Matt


    12:43
    Reggie Miller:
    No one can do Reggie Miller's voice.
    Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:43 Reggie Miller


    12:43
    [Comment From Kyle Kyle: ]
    Does the film highlight LJ's 4 point play? and do you believe that was a correct and 1 call? Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:43 Kyle


    12:43
    Reggie Miller:
    We took it out. It was supposed to be in the highlights at the end. I took it out because it was a bogus play. Jess Kersey screwed us. Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:43 Reggie Miller


    12:44
    [Comment From Matt from Boston Matt from Boston: ]
    Have you written your hall of fame speech yet? Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:44 Matt from Boston


    12:44
    Reggie Miller:
    I'm not even thinking of that. I'm not worthy. Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:44 Reggie Miller


    12:44
    [Comment From Jason Jason: ]
    Should the starters rest or keep playing for the Colts? Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:44 Jason


    12:44
    Reggie Miller:
    I would say rest. The goal is to win your last game. Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:44 Reggie Miller


    12:44
    [Comment From Stew Stew: ]
    Do you think Ray Allen will break your three-point record? Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:44 Stew


    12:45
    Reggie Miller:
    Yes. He's not that far away and he's going to play another three or four years. Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:45 Reggie Miller


    12:46
    Reggie Miller:
    I appreciate all the love and support. I hope everybody can come to the premiere on Feb. 26. I enjoyed chatting with you. THANK YOU!!!!

    http://www.nba.com/pacers/news/reggie_chat_091215.html
    Last edited by theboyjwo; 12-15-2009, 01:57 PM. Reason: link at the bottom.

  • #2
    Re: The Reggie Miller Chat 12/15/09

    You need to have a link.

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    • #3
      Re: The Reggie Miller Chat 12/15/09

      I don't even know if I want to see this, it would just make me miss Reggie more.

      Comment


      • #4
        Re: The Reggie Miller Chat 12/15/09

        I've heard about this movie, but does anyone know any of the details?

        Is it full length, what's it really about?

        Comment


        • #5
          Re: The Reggie Miller Chat 12/15/09

          Run time is 51 Minutes. Its an espn film, that will air in January. But this conseco showing is merely for charity.

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          • #6
            Re: The Reggie Miller Chat 12/15/09

            Originally posted by Speed View Post
            I've heard about this movie, but does anyone know any of the details?

            Is it full length, what's it really about?
            http://30for30.espn.com/film/winning...rk-knicks.html

            Reggie Miller single-handedly crushed the hearts of Knick fans multiple times. But it was the 1995 Eastern Conference Semifinals that solidified Miller as Public Enemy #1 in New York City. With moments to go in Game 1, and facing a seemingly insurmountable deficit of 105-99, Miller scored eight points in 8.9 seconds to give his Indiana Pacers an astonishing victory. This career-defining performance, combined with his give-and-take with Knicks fan Spike Lee, made Miller and the Knicks a highlight of the 1995 NBA playoffs. Peabody Award-winning director Dan Klores will explore how Miller proudly built his legend as “The Garden’s Greatest Villain”.

            It'll premiere on Sunday, March 14, at 9 pm on ESPN.

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            • #7
              Re: The Reggie Miller Chat 12/15/09

              Reggie is also to be on Kravitz & Eddie today at 3:00.

              Comment


              • #8
                Re: The Reggie Miller Chat 12/15/09

                Originally posted by theboyjwo View Post
                [Comment From Matt Matt: ]
                has frank calendo done your voice yet? Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:42 Matt


                12:43
                Reggie Miller:
                No one can do Reggie Miller's voice.
                Tuesday December 15, 2009 12:43 Reggie Miller
                Except for his sister... ZZZZIIIINNNNG!

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                • #9
                  Re: The Reggie Miller Chat 12/15/09

                  Originally posted by Psycho T View Post
                  Except for his sister... ZZZZIIIINNNNG!

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