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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0t3iKQCkzY


    I REALLY like what he brings to the table. I love the swagger. He would do wonders for us.
    "I keep wondering the same thing. Last week they had the 4th worst record in the league, had an 11.9 percent chance of winning the lottery and were in line to land a franchise type player like Derrick Favors or DeMarcus Cousins. This week? They have a 1.7 percent chance of winning the lottery, have the 8th worst record and are in line to draft Cole Aldrich or Greg Monroe. Way to go Jim O'Brien. Rest Danny Granger the rest of the season (if it isn't too late) and give Josh McRoberts lots of minutes. That ought to do it." - Chad Ford on winning meaningless games

    Way to go Jim, you may have just put our franchise back another 4+ years.

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    I REALLY like what he brings to the table. I love the swagger. He would do wonders for us.
    I liked the highlights for his athleticism and passion.

    Then I saw him listed at 6'9" 205 pounds and quickly got turned off.

    Then I read this:

    http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Larry-Sanders-5148/

    Measuring 6-10 in shoes, with a freakish 7-6 ½ wingspan and a frame that should put on weight
    So he's as tall as Solomon Jones but he has Roy Hibbert's wingspan. Jeez. Now I'm right back to being interested. Projected to go 15th right now, so he might be in range.

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    He's averaging 2.7 blocks and 8.4 rebounds in 27 minutes a game. I need to catch some more games of him to watch his box-outs and timing and help defense, but he looks like he will be a very good defensive player off the bench and solid rebounder. He can hold his own on offense too, although it's not anything to write home about.

    He's listed as 6-11 according to-

    http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/player...playerId=36534
    "I keep wondering the same thing. Last week they had the 4th worst record in the league, had an 11.9 percent chance of winning the lottery and were in line to land a franchise type player like Derrick Favors or DeMarcus Cousins. This week? They have a 1.7 percent chance of winning the lottery, have the 8th worst record and are in line to draft Cole Aldrich or Greg Monroe. Way to go Jim O'Brien. Rest Danny Granger the rest of the season (if it isn't too late) and give Josh McRoberts lots of minutes. That ought to do it." - Chad Ford on winning meaningless games

    Way to go Jim, you may have just put our franchise back another 4+ years.

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    I think Cousins could increase his stock if he stayed longer though. He's raw and just needs to polish his all-around game. Kind of like what Josh McRoberts should have done.
    yeah his jumper is gross looking. I've also noticed he can barely jump...sometimes he gets stuffed by the rim. but based off potential wouldn't mind us getting him

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    yeah his jumper is gross looking. I've also noticed he can barely jump...sometimes he gets stuffed by the rim. but based off potential wouldn't mind us getting him
    I would love to have him. But right now hes in the 15-25 range and if he really wanted to get paid, he'd probably want to stick around a while longer. Heck, if he could have came out of HS, and we drafted him too this year, we would play both Solo and Macs' minutes, as well as alot of Fosters.
    "I keep wondering the same thing. Last week they had the 4th worst record in the league, had an 11.9 percent chance of winning the lottery and were in line to land a franchise type player like Derrick Favors or DeMarcus Cousins. This week? They have a 1.7 percent chance of winning the lottery, have the 8th worst record and are in line to draft Cole Aldrich or Greg Monroe. Way to go Jim O'Brien. Rest Danny Granger the rest of the season (if it isn't too late) and give Josh McRoberts lots of minutes. That ought to do it." - Chad Ford on winning meaningless games

    Way to go Jim, you may have just put our franchise back another 4+ years.

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    Cousins has a problem with staying on the damn floor. He fouls an awful lot.

    Also, I bet we use a second rounder on Jeremy Lin.
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    I am interested in another bigman, preferrably one who is athletic.


    Sanders and Patterson, Favors and Ed Davis make the list. How about the following.


    Charles Gracia
    http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/...s-Garcia-5800/

    Dexter Pittman
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    23 points and 15 rebounds against UNC
    He has dramatically improved over the last 4 years in ability and physique.
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    Dexter Pittman looks like an NBA player, but he is VERY slow. He plays similar to Kendick Perkins or DeJuan Blair in college. But if he did make the pros, I just think he'd be another Sean May; a player too slow and not strong enough compared to NBA players instead of college players.

    On a side note, RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN LINE FOR THE NUMBER 5 PICK!!!! Yay.. but it sickens me.
    "I keep wondering the same thing. Last week they had the 4th worst record in the league, had an 11.9 percent chance of winning the lottery and were in line to land a franchise type player like Derrick Favors or DeMarcus Cousins. This week? They have a 1.7 percent chance of winning the lottery, have the 8th worst record and are in line to draft Cole Aldrich or Greg Monroe. Way to go Jim O'Brien. Rest Danny Granger the rest of the season (if it isn't too late) and give Josh McRoberts lots of minutes. That ought to do it." - Chad Ford on winning meaningless games

    Way to go Jim, you may have just put our franchise back another 4+ years.

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    Dexter Pittman looks like an NBA player, but he is VERY slow. He plays similar to Kendick Perkins or DeJuan Blair in college. But if he did make the pros, I just think he'd be another Sean May; a player too slow and not strong enough compared to NBA players instead of college players.

    On a side note, RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN LINE FOR THE NUMBER 5 PICK!!!! Yay.. but it sickens me.
    The way Stern loves us this means we will pick anywhere from 8-11, well after any potential game breaker will be there.

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    Larry Sanders has NBA athleticism. I am still in dismay about him putting on more weight for the next level. I believe he didn't start playing organized basketball until like 11th grade or something when he hit a big growth spurt. He may be able to harness more weight, but seeing him in person I would be surprised to see NBA upside with his frame. It seems as though his offensive arsenal has improved since last year. He has always worked off of cuts around the basket and is good with lobs and post movement in general. He did not have reliable back-to-the-basket moves when I saw him last. I will get over to the Seigel Center and give you guys an update here in the next couple of weeks on his progress.

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    What is Sanders' BBall IQ like? Will he look lost all the time like Solomon Jones, or will he be a wicked force like Jeff Foster in Hasheem Thabeets' body?

    Is he reliable in the post at all? I'm sure he wouldn't draw a double team, but could he be good as Rasho and come in and hold himself in the low post 1 on 1?

    Does he play interior defense? Is he a real banger? Will he get those hustle boards, and make Conseco rise to their feet?

    This guy could be our next Foster or DD for 10-12 years. I want Larry Sanders on this team. If he could do these things on this team, I would be crazy happy.
    "I keep wondering the same thing. Last week they had the 4th worst record in the league, had an 11.9 percent chance of winning the lottery and were in line to land a franchise type player like Derrick Favors or DeMarcus Cousins. This week? They have a 1.7 percent chance of winning the lottery, have the 8th worst record and are in line to draft Cole Aldrich or Greg Monroe. Way to go Jim O'Brien. Rest Danny Granger the rest of the season (if it isn't too late) and give Josh McRoberts lots of minutes. That ought to do it." - Chad Ford on winning meaningless games

    Way to go Jim, you may have just put our franchise back another 4+ years.

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    I am interested in another bigman, preferrably one who is athletic.


    Sanders and Patterson, Favors and Ed Davis make the list. How about the following.


    Charles Gracia
    http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/...s-Garcia-5800/

    Dexter Pittman
    http://www.nbadraft.net/players/dexter-pittman
    23 points and 15 rebounds against UNC
    He has dramatically improved over the last 4 years in ability and physique.
    Garcia's playing on Directv Ch. 683 right now.


    He's a talented kid. Super raw. Big fish little pond. They played Denver tonight it may as well have been U of I or Marian U. It was a great game came down to the final second and a desperation three by some Denver dude on his first shot attempt of the night. Denver won. The refs were ridiculous. It was like a 5 grade basketball game.

    He played both center and point guard if you can believe that. He'd man the paint on "D" alter some 5' 8" dude's shot. Get the rebound then he'd dribble between his legs around his back all the way up the court drop it off to their actual PG then takes his place back in the paint. They'd throw it high he'd catch it face the triple team and swish a 15 footer. Denver had some scrappy three point shooters and Garcia was in foul trouble.
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    Stock Watch: As ACC play starts, Alabi on the rise
    Tuesday, December 22, 2009 |

    Posted by Chad Ford

    NBA scouts are getting their last looks at prospects before conference season begins. This week a few familiar names are mingled with a handful of sleepers in our latest NBA Stock Watch.
    STOCK: UP

    Solomon Alabi, C, Florida State

    Alabi hasn't put up huge numbers, but you don't need to when you're a 7-foot-1 center in a draft devoid of 5s. After getting off to a slow start in November, Alabi has picked it up in December. He had 21 and 10 against Ohio State, 22 and 9 against Auburn and a solid 9 points, 12 rebounds and 4 blocks versus Georgia Tech on Sunday.
    While Alabi still looks very much like a work in progress, he has the physical attributes that scouts want in their big men. He can run the floor, block shots and crash the glass. Offensively he's still pretty raw, but so was Hasheem Thabeet, the No. 2 pick in last year's draft.
    Gordon Hayward, SF, Butler

    This year's draft is super rich in versatile forwards who can score in a variety of ways. Syracuse's Wesley Johnson is at the top of the class, but there's a lot of other talent here.
    Hayward has been as good as any player in college basketball the past few weeks. Like Alabi, he was sluggish in November, but he's been red hot in December. Over the last three games Haywood is averaging 23 ppg, 10 rpg and shooting 11-for-22 from 3.
    Hayward's versatility has drawn some comparisons to a tougher version of the Pacers' Mike Dunleavy. While he isn't an elite athlete, he continues to prove to scouts that he can use his high basketball IQ to make up for a lack of explosiveness. He's moved from a bubble first rounder to a mid-first-round pick this season. If he keeps it up, he might even crack the lottery.
    Dexter Pittman, C, Texas
    For the first three years of his career, Pittman was a curiosity -- a fat kid who had lost a lot of weight and turned himself into a nice basketball player. This year, Pittman is more than a human interest story. He's beginning to dominate the middle in a way few players in this year's draft can.
    Pittman came up with his best game of the year on the biggest stage of the season so far on Saturday versus North Carolina. He scored 25 points, grabbed 15 rebounds and outmuscled and outhustled two Tar Heels with serious NBA potential -- Ed Davis and Deon Thompson.
    Pittman still doesn't have the endurance to play more than a few minutes at a time on the floor. He's still -- three years and 80 fewer pounds later -- trying to get into great shape. But for the first time, Pittman is looking like a very legit NBA big man. We now have Pittman in our Top 30. If he can continue to put up big numbers, he could end up in the late lottery by draft time.
    Andrew Nicholson, PF, St. Bonaventure

    Nicholson has been flying under the radar his whole career. He got a late start playing basketball, a foot injury kept him from being a top college recruit and despite winning freshman of the year honors in the Atlantic 10 last season, he didn't really start generating draft buzz until recently.
    Nicholson had his coming out party in a big game versus Syracuse on Saturday. The Bonnie's didn't win the game, but Nicholson was huge, scoring 18 points and going 9-for-10 from the field -- before he was ejected for hitting Syracuse guard Andy Rautins in the groin.
    Nicholson has drawn comparisons to another former A-10 big man, David West. Nicholson is a bouncy big who loves to attack the basket. He needs to get stronger, but scouts love the tenacity he plays with -- even if he does go a little bit overboard at times.
    Nicholson cracked our Top 60 for the first time this week and could end up being a first round pick -- especially if he continues to develop that face-up game.
    Darington Hobson, F, New Mexico

    Hobson was a highly thought of high school recruit who has finally found his way to New Mexico after a stint in junior college playing for Eastern Utah.
    In a year when a number of transfers are making their mark, Hobson is no exception. He's off to a terrific start averaging 17 ppg, 8 rpg and an impressive 4.6 apg for the undefeated Lobos.
    What makes Hobson so attractive is his versatility. Hobson can play three positions on the floor. He's at his most interesting when he's playing the point. Standing at 6-foot-7, Hobson has terrific size for a playmaker and is a little reminiscent of Penny Hardaway.
    He's at his best when he's putting the ball on the floor and penetrating. He's averaging nearly seven free throws a game. Unfortunately he's shooting under 60 percent from the line when he gets there. Hobson's shot is still a work in progress, but the early returns from NBA scouts are that Hobson could be a big time prospect.
    Hobson may be just getting started, however, he is already 22 years old and sources say he'd like to make the jump to the NBA this summer. If he can keep this up in conference play, he could be a first round pick -- maybe even lottery. He's got that much talent.
    STOCK: DOWN

    Devin Ebanks, F, West Virginia

    NBA teams love Ebanks' talent. He is the prototypical sort of crazy long, jump-out-of-the-gym forward that scouts dream of. But Ebanks is off to a very shaky start at West Virginia. After leaving the team at the start of the season, Ebanks is finally back on the court. But he isn't playing the lead role we thought he'd play this year. If anything, forward Kevin Jones has replaced Ebanks as the "It" guy at West Virginia.
    Part of Ebanks' problem is shooting. He's struggling to hit anything right now. He's also been really careless with the ball. He began his fourth game of the season coming off the bench and though he had a solid performance, scouts expected much, much more from him.
    With teams now concerned about Ebanks' off-the-court issues and his so-so performance on the court, his stock has slipped into the late first round. Of course, if he explodes in conference play, he still could crack the Top 10. But right now there are better, less risky options in a draft laden with athletic small forwards.
    Gani Lawal, F, Georgia Tech

    Scouts have wanted to love Lawal for years. He's got all the physical tools they look for and has an excellent motor. Last year he got off to a red hot start before cooling off considerably when facing the tougher competition in the ACC. This year looks like it could be a mirror image of last.
    Lawal has been terrific in early competition, especially against smaller schools. But in Georgia Tech's two big games versus Dayton and Florida State, he, once again, struggled mightily on the offensive end. Lawal was just 1-for-7 from the field against Florida State and had 9 points and a whopping 8 turnovers versus Dayton.
    Lawal is already overshadowed this season by freshman forward Derrick Favors. Playing poorly in the big games isn't the way to work yourself back into the first round.

    The Midrange Game

    Maybe we should call this college basketball season "The Year of the Transfer Player." We've already highlighted the terrific performances by transfers like Wesley Johnson, Ekpe Udoh, Elliot Williams and Charles Garcia in the last few weeks. And today we looked at New Mexico's Darington Hobson. The good news just keeps coming and coming -- here are four more transfers making some noise this season.
    UTEP's Derrick Caracter is off to a hot start after sitting out a year when he transferred from Louisville. He had 15 and 15 versus Ole Miss in his second game back and followed with a 21-point, 10-rebound game versus Alcorn State. No one doubts Caracter's talent. He has the skills of a lottery pick. But, he's had so many off-court issues, I think teams will shy away from him as a first-round prospect regardless of the numbers he puts up for UTEP this year.
    NBA scouts are starting to make some noise about UAB's Elijah Millsap. Millsap is the younger brother of Utah Jazz power forward Paul Millsap. After playing two years at Louisiana Layfayette, Millsap transferred to UAB. He sat out last season due to eligibility rules and has come on strong in the early going at UAB.Millsap isn't a burly power forward like his brother. He's a swingman, who's trimmer, more athletic and can score. However, like his brother, he has uncanny rebounding ability.
    USC power forward Alex Stepheson is also having a really big year after leaving North Carolina. The L.A. big man was terrific in an upset win over Tennessee this weekend. Stepheson had 19 points and 15 boards in the win. He also looked great earlier in the season against Georgia Tech, scoring 22 points and grabbing 7 boards. A terrible performance against Texas has been the only real blemish on his resume so far.
    New Mexico State transfer Herb Pope is having a huge season for Seton Hall this year. He's averaging 14 ppg, 12 rpg and nearly 3 bpg. "He's the best rebounder in the country," one GM said. "He's the DeJuan Blair of this year's draft."However NBA teams are wary of Pope's past. His father, a crack addict, is in prison. His senior year in high school, Pope was shot four times at a party. He struggled academically at New Mexico State and began looking for a transfer soon after he arrived (at least in part because the coach that recruited him -- Reggie Theus -- was hired by the Sacramento Kings prior to Pope's arrival on campus).
    He's a kid from a rough town in Pennsylvania who plays really rough in the paint. NBA teams love guys who will be a beast in the paint. If he can prove he's put a troubled past behind him -- he's being mentored by the New York Jets' Darrelle Revis, who also grew up in Pope's home town of Aliquippa -- he could end up being a big time prospect this year.

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    I can't honestly see Gordon Hayward in the lottery. He's a role player at the very best; a Luke Walton or James Posey (with no D) at best. He'd be a nice 20-30 prospect, but nothing else.
    "I keep wondering the same thing. Last week they had the 4th worst record in the league, had an 11.9 percent chance of winning the lottery and were in line to land a franchise type player like Derrick Favors or DeMarcus Cousins. This week? They have a 1.7 percent chance of winning the lottery, have the 8th worst record and are in line to draft Cole Aldrich or Greg Monroe. Way to go Jim O'Brien. Rest Danny Granger the rest of the season (if it isn't too late) and give Josh McRoberts lots of minutes. That ought to do it." - Chad Ford on winning meaningless games

    Way to go Jim, you may have just put our franchise back another 4+ years.

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    Larry Sanders

    http://www.nbadraft.net/players/larry-sanders

    Strengths: Post player with tremendous defensive upside due to his unbelievable length: has a 7-foot-7 wingspan (His arms need their own insurance policy) plus good timing and explosiveness ... Already a bigtime shot blocker and is on his way to becoming an absolutely dominant one. As a freshman he averages just 16 minutes per game but is already tied for 10th in the country in blocked shots at 3.0 per game. His block per minute average is the best in the country ... Very fluid and fast running the floor. Shows a solid motor, hustling the floor and fighting for rebounds ... Has excellent foot speed and lateral quickness for a bigman ... His offensive game, while raw shows potential to develop ... Has a huge frame and should be able to put on plenty of weight without affecting his mobility ... Shows a solid shooting form with a high release. Just needs time to polish it ...

    Weaknesses: Has very little offensive skill level ... Still learning the game, developing fundamentals, basic stuff such as boxing out and setting proper screens ... Having just two years of high school ball under his belt, he struggles to do some basic things such as catching and shooting and converting shots inside the paint ... Must learn to become more disciplined as a shot blocker. He gets into foul trouble far too easily. Must learn to wait until the shooter leaves the floor before jumping himself ... Must develop a more reliable shot. His free throw shooting (50%) needs development. Repetition and focus on it should increse his effectiveness over time ... Right now, opponents are able to body him and get shots off. Adding bulk will allow him to stay on balance and prevent opponents from neutralizing his shot blocking ability with contact ...

    Notes: Began playing organized ball in just his junior year of high school. So the game is new to him and he's on a huge learning curve ...

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    It looks like he'd have a struggling first couple of years in the NBA; having foul problems and having low percentages and is very expressive so will probably show signs of confidence issues like Roy Hibbert. But as he adds muscle and more strength I really think he can be a HUGE banger for this team. If he gets drafted 10-15 I think people would be thinking, "This guy was a waste", but within a couple of years this guy could be one of the most exciting and energetic role players in the league for a long time.

    Evan Turner:

    http://www.nbadraft.net/players/evan-turner

    NBA Comparison Marquis Daniels/Brandon Roy

    Strengths: Big combo guard with great versatility and a tremendous feel for the game ... Extremely smooth with the ball in his hands and has a bag of tricks offensively ... His handles are that of a point guards and he has a terrific ability of getting to the basket ... Has supreme confidence with the ball in his hands, excellent handle and a nasty crossover ... Slick mid-range game with the ability to change directions and get defenders off balance to create looks ... Good upperbody strength allows him to absorb contact and make plays at the rim ... Strong finisher. Very adept at finishing after contact. Also utilizes the glass effectively ... Has a nifty runner when he meets up with shot blockers in the paint ... Understands how to use his body to shield the ball from opponents ... Has a great pull up jumper and his ability to drive really sets up his ability to pull up for shots ... Utilizes the spin dribble to get by opponents effectively and into the paint ... Creative playmaker with the ability to find others for shots when his path to the basket gets cut off ... Solid vision and a good passer capable of finding the open man ... An above average athlete with good speed and long arms ... Makes a lot of impressive plays at the basket using excellent body control and creativity ... A solid shooter with good form ... Has a big wingspan (near 7-foot). His long arms allow him to disrupt passing lanes ... Draws a lot of fouls on drives due to his aggressiveness ... Runs down a lot of loose balls and makes plays based on sheer desire and hustle ... Plays with a high level of intensity at all times no matter the game situation ... A student of the game who studies past greats and appears to have a great understanding ... Solid free throw shooter at 79% ...

    Weaknesses: Not a freak athlete, but above average by NBA standards with great length ... At times appears to be succeptable to being thrown off his game by physical play ... A better scorer than shooter, while Turner shot 44% from 3 as a sophomore it was on a low volume of shots ... Should look to improve his catch and shoot ability and expand his range and consistency from the perimeter ... His effectiveness going towards the basket with the ball probably keeps him from polishing his outside game, but with such efficiency driving it's hard to ask him to shoot more from the perimeter ... Struggled in the clutch in OSU's loss to Siena in the tournament ... At times can fall in love with the dribble and become too ball dependant, but he's very effective so that's nit picking to a degree ... His creativity can lead to being a little careless passing the ball ... Not great at setting defenders up off of screens and shooting spot up. He prefers to create a rhythm with the ball in his hands dribbling off screens or creating off isolation ...

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    I think this is the guy we want at the wing if he's available no matter what (Unless if we could get Wall or Favors). He has star potential and I really like how hard he plays. Of course with his work ethic and understanding for the game, I wouldn't be suprised if he became a much better shooter. He's obviously not going to be good as Roy, but they do play so similarly. Solid passing which would make up for out terrible PG play, solid defense, and stellar scoring. He has a long wingspan and a strong finisher which I like. He's good on the break and he reminds me of the Tyreke Evans/DRose/John Wall type players with the explosiveness and fortunately his stock is down because of the back injury.

    Patrick Patterson:

    http://www.nbadraft.net/players/patrick-patterson

    Strengths: Patterson possesses an NBA-ready body and outstanding physical abilities ... Has the demeanor you want in a post player, as he relishes contact and has the willingness to bang inside ... One of the most efficient players in the SEC at 18 PPG (.664 FG% and 1.66 PPS), 9.3 RPG and 2.0 BLK ... tHe is a warrior inside who understands how to play post position with his back to the basket and relies on his deep position under the basket ... One of the toughest players in the league ... Does a great job of fighting for and holding down his position inside (if he doesn’t feel he is in a good position to catch the ball he will repost and fight for better position) ... Patterson overpowers, out muscles and out wills most of his opponents inside ... Possesses great timing on put-backs, rebounds and 2nd shot opportunities ... His go-to move is to catch the ball inside and turn to his left shoulder and use his right hand baby hook effectively or drop-step and go for dunk ... Patterson is very explosive and aggressive off the ground when attacking the rim ... He has improved his game since last year and developed a solid outside shot from 15-16 feet (on the low post he can even turn around and shoot it off the glass) ... He is very quick at changing directions, and shows solid ability to beat slower defenders off the dribble ... Has the ability to draw contact first and score ... Very good free-throw shooter at .778 % this year so far ... Patterson also improved his rebounding ability (going from 7.7 RPG per game to 9.5 RPG per game this year) ... Although he relied mostly on his body in the past, this year he has learned to box out better and make better use of his 7′2″ wingspan ... Average passer with good court vision (recognizes double teams and will try to find open teammate for the open jump-shot) ... Runs the floor well for his size ... On the defensive end his mobility, long arms, body and athleticism make him solid ... Patterson has good timing for blocking shots (2 BPG) ... Possesses good lateral quickness for his size ... Got his confidence back from last year’s injury (stress fracture in left ankle) ... Despite being undersized, Patterson possesses the heart, determination, and athleticism to overcome these shortcomings. It also helps him that smaller power forwards such as Paul Millsap are having success in the NBA ...

    Weaknesses: Patterson is clearly undersized at PF at the next level ... He won't be as effective in the NBA as he is now unless he becomes more versatile player offensively ... His court awareness is a little shaky and he will try to make a move inside with 2-3 defenders on him at the times ... Patterson has to work on turning to his right shoulder and using his left hand (the majority of his points are with his right hand) ... Although his shot has good mechanics, his release point is low and he may have trouble getting his shot off at the next level ... Has to become a more consistent outside shooter as well. He has shown improvement, but can certainly extend his range and consistency ... Not patient enough when trying to block shots and can commits unnecessary fouls being overly aggressive ...

    Steven Petrovic – 1/28/2009


    Strengths: Patterson is an exceptionally aggressive and athletic player in a man-child NBA body. His pogo-stick leaping ability allows him to be a creative finisher around the basket where he is almost automatic and can finish with either hand. He uses the glass well and is a very powerful dunker. Patterson has great hands that the ball seems to stick to. His brute strength allows him to bang down low with power forwards and be a menace on the boards. However, he is also very quick and should be able to defend the small forward in the NBA. He can pass very well, especially out of double teams, and is a team player with well-rounded statistics. He was measured with a 7-1 wingspan

    Weaknesses: Patterson is an amazing talent but does lack some important skills. He is very efficient with the ball and thus does not show extensive ball handling and dribbling skills. He also has not shown an ability to shoot the ball from the perimeter well. Short jumpers are fine, where he sometimes shoots one handed, but he seems even a bit tentative around 15 feet from the hoop and out. He is close to being between positions due to limited perimeter skills and measuring in at just 6-8 without shoes, however players with his package of strength, length, and athleticism dont come along often. There is surely a spot for him in the NBA.

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    This is Dejuan Blair with a way more polished game along with size and more physicality. If you want our starting PF of the future, you want this guy. In all fairness, I think Tyler will be a Lamar Odom or a Rasheed Wallace only alot more affective, coming off of the bench as a 6th man or 7th man. Patterson will be the guy for us moving forward in my opinion. He has that banger mentality and will have Kendrick Perkins defense with Luis Scolas' touch on offense. I think he will make the AS team at least once. He'll be a very fun player to watch and will make some real money in the NBA.
    "I keep wondering the same thing. Last week they had the 4th worst record in the league, had an 11.9 percent chance of winning the lottery and were in line to land a franchise type player like Derrick Favors or DeMarcus Cousins. This week? They have a 1.7 percent chance of winning the lottery, have the 8th worst record and are in line to draft Cole Aldrich or Greg Monroe. Way to go Jim O'Brien. Rest Danny Granger the rest of the season (if it isn't too late) and give Josh McRoberts lots of minutes. That ought to do it." - Chad Ford on winning meaningless games

    Way to go Jim, you may have just put our franchise back another 4+ years.

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    I didn't realise we had the fifth worst record in the league so far.

    Dare we get our hopes up for the #1 pick?

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    I didn't realise we had the fifth worst record in the league so far.

    Dare we get our hopes up for the #1 pick?
    I wouldn't. There was a time I would, but I know better now.

    Yes, it could happen, but more likely we'll get Mike and Tyler fully healthy (no minute restrictions), Danny will return, and we'll start playing closer to .500 ball.

    That will likely put us closer to #10 than #5.

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    Lottery Probabilities


    With the current fifth-worst record in the league, if the season ended today we'd have a 29.2% chance at a top-3 pick.

    This is shaping up to be a very good draft, so now's as good a time as any to be terrible.

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    Four times since the lottery was introduced in 1985, has the team with the 5th worst record won it and received the #1 pick. Of course that doesn't mean anything and bears no impact on the present, but it's a fact nonetheless.

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    2010 NBA Draft Scouting Report: Cole Aldrich


    Position: Center

    Size: 6-11, 245

    School: Kansas, Junior


    Strengths:
    Fundamentally sound with his post moves
    Knows how to use his big body to establish position inside
    Soft touch around the basket
    Nice mid-range game
    Good free-throw shooter
    Understands how to run the pick and roll, pick and pop
    Great vision for a big man especially when double-teamed on the block
    Long reach helps him rebound and block shots
    Active inside on both ends of the floor





    Weaknesses:
    By no means a "stiff" but lacks great athleticism and explosiveness
    Footwork has improved, but there is still room for growth
    Does not run the floor well
    Very unorthodox shot form as he ***** the ball well behind his head
    Limited ball-handler; the less he dribbles, the better

    Summary: I am not as high on Cole Aldrich as other NBA Draft sites are. I think he is a great college basketball player but I'm not sure how his game translates to the next level. He will be servicable as a pro, but not an All-Star. He should be the top center in the 2010 class and will certainly be a lottery pick, but how high his stock goes will depend on how NBA teams feel he can transition to a more physical, athletically demanding league.

    Player Comparison: Chris Kaman. Kaman is a solid complementary NBA player who brings the same sort of attributes to the Clips that Aldrich does at Kansas. Kaman is a crafty big man who uses his length and average athleticism to the best of his ability, just like Aldrich. Neither will ever be a 20-10 player as a pro, but should have successful careers.

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    I'm higher on him than I was a while back. After watching him, I see very aggressive rebounding, very nice and advanced post moves, he's missing a tooth, he's not a stiff by any means according to the scouting report, and he has VERY NICE HANDS. He catches passes getting doubled, brings it down, and often finishes with the foul. Thats special. But I don't think he's right for this team. He'd be our backup center, and since we have Hibbert. So I think we need to upgrade either SG or PF, and then trade our expiring contracts for an All Star PG, and go from there. We will also need that 4th/5th big (Sanders!) To back up Roy and have Tyler be our 6th man for years to come. Cole will be good enough to be a starter on a contending team, but by no means an X-Factor, but probably more of a complementary player. A Pryzbilla, Jermaine O'Neal (Now), or an Andrew Bogut. Thats a very good player, but I'm sure we already have that guy.





    PS- Interesting how Hansbrough discussions are everywhere. Heres from the Youtube video comments:

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    Reply Um no. Aldrich will be good in the nba, Tyler will not

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    Keep proven 'em wrong son. I'd say 9.5 ppg rookie year is pretty good restricted to 26 minutes.
    "I keep wondering the same thing. Last week they had the 4th worst record in the league, had an 11.9 percent chance of winning the lottery and were in line to land a franchise type player like Derrick Favors or DeMarcus Cousins. This week? They have a 1.7 percent chance of winning the lottery, have the 8th worst record and are in line to draft Cole Aldrich or Greg Monroe. Way to go Jim O'Brien. Rest Danny Granger the rest of the season (if it isn't too late) and give Josh McRoberts lots of minutes. That ought to do it." - Chad Ford on winning meaningless games

    Way to go Jim, you may have just put our franchise back another 4+ years.

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    John Wall - You can't say we're not in range.

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    Strengths: Has the size and physical tools to become an incredible player ... Not many players at his position have the combination of speed and athleticism that he possesses … At least once or twice a game he will make a brilliant play that shows the amount of potential that he has … He is able to consistently finish above the rim, both in transition and in traffic … He has an extra gear which allows him to turn the corner or to explode by defenders in the open court … Going full speed he is not only faster than anyone else on the court, but he is also very comfortable handling the ball as he is weaving through defenders … Very impressive is his ability to change direction in mid-stride while going full speed … In ISO situations, he is almost impossible to stop because of his great first step as well as the variety of moves that he can use off the dribble … He has good instincts and because he consistently gets into the lane, he is very good at finding teammates when the help defense comes over … His freakish athleticism and extremely long arms make him a serious threat in the passing lanes as well as a weakside shotblocker ...


    Weaknesses: He is still a very raw player, heavily depending on his athleticism to help him get away with a number of things … As a playmaker he is much more effective in transition, once the tempo slows he struggles making reads and deliver passes … His release is a little slow, but his shooting form is decent, unfortunately at this point he is a non threat from the outside … The shooting inconsistency limits him since people back off, making his driving lanes that much more congested, forcing him to drive into heavy traffic … In pick&roll situations, he is also very shaky because defenders always go under the screen daring him to shoot, which limits the movement and action as well as his passing options … His touch around the rim is unrefined, unless he is dunking he struggles to convert on layups as well as floaters and teardrops … As a defender, he has the length, athleticism and lateral quickness to become a stopper, but at this point he is not very dedicated on that end … He takes plays off and lets inferior players get by him off the dribble … He is very turnover prone, sometimes attempting to throw passes that have no way of finding the target …

    Borko Popic - 8/29/2008

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    Now I obviously see him as the #1 pick, but he won't be as good his first couple of seasons as some people think. He'll have the TJ problem early on, drive and kick to nowhere. He'll have people with his athleticism matched up against him. He's not an outstanding passer, but still good. His explosiveness is by far the most interesting talent. His ability to get up and dunk it in peoples heads just makes me scratch my head thinking about how he did that. His athleticism is just off the charts, and we need that. Him, along with DRose, CP3, and DWill will all develop good jumpers as their careers go on. John Wall will be the best scorer of all of these guys, but he is a better scorer than passer, unlike most of these guys. Some people just think he'll go MJ or something his first season, but he'll likely be something like Rondo. Not guarded on the perimeter, however has a knack for getting to the rim, and is great on the break. Except I think Rondo is probably the better passer. But that could change as time goes on.



    Yeah, he's not that cocky in KU.
    "I keep wondering the same thing. Last week they had the 4th worst record in the league, had an 11.9 percent chance of winning the lottery and were in line to land a franchise type player like Derrick Favors or DeMarcus Cousins. This week? They have a 1.7 percent chance of winning the lottery, have the 8th worst record and are in line to draft Cole Aldrich or Greg Monroe. Way to go Jim O'Brien. Rest Danny Granger the rest of the season (if it isn't too late) and give Josh McRoberts lots of minutes. That ought to do it." - Chad Ford on winning meaningless games

    Way to go Jim, you may have just put our franchise back another 4+ years.

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    if the pacers draft cousins or sanders, you can kiss this franchise goodbye. this upcoming draft will, imo, make or break the pacers time in indianapolis. therefore, the pacers MUST draft a franchise player, or at the least an all-star level talent, with the pick they have.

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    if the pacers draft cousins or sanders, you can kiss this franchise goodbye. this upcoming draft will, imo, make or break the pacers time in indianapolis. therefore, the pacers MUST draft a franchise player, or at the least an all-star level talent, with the pick they have.
    I would never like Larry the same if he drafted one of them at 1-5.

    BUT you could get two picks from trades.
    "I keep wondering the same thing. Last week they had the 4th worst record in the league, had an 11.9 percent chance of winning the lottery and were in line to land a franchise type player like Derrick Favors or DeMarcus Cousins. This week? They have a 1.7 percent chance of winning the lottery, have the 8th worst record and are in line to draft Cole Aldrich or Greg Monroe. Way to go Jim O'Brien. Rest Danny Granger the rest of the season (if it isn't too late) and give Josh McRoberts lots of minutes. That ought to do it." - Chad Ford on winning meaningless games

    Way to go Jim, you may have just put our franchise back another 4+ years.

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