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    I'm sure. During that 5 game run there was nobody more important than D. Jones.

    Now that is not saying he was head above anyone else either but this guy was for fact the on floor leader. Also I don't think you can discount his offensive production during that time as well. Granted he took some forced unadvised shots, but can you tell me what Pacer did not?
    Rush.

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    I'm sure. During that 5 game run there was nobody more important than D. Jones.

    Now that is not saying he was head above anyone else either but this guy was for fact the on floor leader. Also I don't think you can discount his offensive production during that time as well. Granted he took some forced unadvised shots, but can you tell me what Pacer did not?
    I suppose, but this scares me. This is suppose to be Granger's team, not Jones' team- thought processes like these causes friction. Sure, Jones could be a great leader- he plays with passion that is vocal and loud while Danny seems to have a more quiet, reserved passion- but if this team becomes Jones' team than things will only get worse from here.

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    Granger isn't a leader, IMHO. He doesn't have the personality to lead a team, which isn't a bad thing.

    Just because you're the teams best player doesn't put you in a position to lead. Lead by example yes, but not the tone setter and the one to rally the troops when times are tough.

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    Yep.

    And as long as the actual leader and the best player(s) see eye to eye, I think there's no problem.

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    Granger isn't a leader, IMHO. He doesn't have the personality to lead a team, which isn't a bad thing.

    Just because you're the teams best player doesn't put you in a position to lead. Lead by example yes, but not the tone setter and the one to rally the troops when times are tough.
    I'm just worried that players will be less willing to follow Danny's lead by example and more of Jones' lead by...whatever he leads by. Wow, I actually miss Jack for this case, if true.

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    whatever he leads by.
    Tough defense.
    Aggression.
    Mental focus.
    Confidence.
    Strong moves to the basket.
    A reliable 15 footer.
    Blocking shots.
    Professionalism.
    Team spirit.
    Maturity.
    An attitude that cares whether we win or lose.
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    I'm just worried that players will be less willing to follow Danny's lead by example and more of Jones' lead by...whatever he leads by. Wow, I actually miss Jack for this case, if true.
    From everything I've watched as the type of person D. Jones is, that won't be the case. He came into Duke from being the big man at Rutgers to only play one year and stepped right in line with Coach K and the team. He's been a role player every step in the NBA, and performing his role exceptionally.

    Does it take an overly aggressive shot, usually driving into a crowd, instead of working the pass and being a little more patient? Sure. But he's not a ballhog.

    I think there is a rift in the team, but it doesn't revolve around Danny and DJones.

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    I think part of the reason for the win streak success is that we played guys who have the best shot at playing both ends of the court.

    TJ: Offense only
    Jeff: Defense only
    Troy: Offense only

    During the win streak, the larger minutes were going to

    Watson: Offense and Defense
    Hibbert: Potentially good offense and potentially good defense
    Solo: Good defense and respectable offense

    We had balance and it was working.
    I really agree.

    I also think that Rush, DJ and Granger have strong cases for being the top 2-way players on the team. Yes Danny does lack on straight up defense, but he's a great hustle defender who gets a lot of help defense blocks. Rush and DJ have offensive questions, but technically they balance each other well. Rush has scoring skills but lacks will at times, DJ is the opposite.

    DJ and Rush both space the defensive floor well, and in turn that helps set up Hibbert to defend more at the rim where he's been pretty solid. You lack rebounding, though DJ and Rush are both good wing rebounders, but you can defend and you do have multiple offensive attack points.

    I also strongly agree that Watson fits as a 2 way guy.


    I even think Foster makes a good case on offense due to awareness, passing and screening (slightly, never been great at this). He won't score but he will work the offensive space to help create a score for someone.

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    Tough defense.
    Aggression.
    Mental focus.
    Confidence.
    Strong moves to the basket.
    A reliable 15 footer.
    Blocking shots.
    Professionalism.
    Team spirit.
    Maturity.
    An attitude that cares whether we win or lose.
    Yes, yes. But other than that, what have the Romans ever done for us?

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