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    what's this guys deal? is he nba ready? why is his minutes declining? is he quick enough to handle the power f's in the league?
    i havent seen him play this season because im in the cleveland market. if u guys could let me know what u think about hibbert so far id really appreciate it.

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    Hibbert is a very good center that never gets touches because we'd rather shoot a contested three seven seconds into the shot clock rather than use a good back to basket player. JOB wants movement and he'd much rather have Foster run around like a chicken with his head cut off shuffling the ball around to jack up a three. Thats why he gets little PT. Roy is very slow and he can't guard anyone without fouling. He'd do better if he roamed on D like Chris Anderson. Then he could block some shots.
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    Way to go Jim, you may have just put our franchise back another 4+ years.

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    Hibbert would be a 15 and 9 player if he had a coach that actually runs post plays.

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    Hibbert clearly isn't a guy that O'Brien trust on the floor.
    ...Still "flying casual"
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    He deserves a lot more time than Jeff does.

    What more does O'Brien want out of a center?

    Roy has improved into a stronger big man who is beginning to play well.

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    He deserves a lot more time than Jeff does.

    What more does O'Brien want out of a center?

    Roy has improved into a stronger big man who is beginning to play well.
    A center than can catch a chicken in a footrace?

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    The preceding posts are from guys who are so down on O'Brien that they blame everything on his coaching. Don't believe them.

    In fact, Roy still has a lot to prove at the NBA level. He started well this season, but lately has declined in performance as well as in minutes. He's getting his shot blocked too often and getting too few rebounds. Last year his problem was fouling too much, and roy has solved that by just not making any very serious effort to fill the middle.

    Many of us still believe he is the Pacers' center of the future and one of the building blocks for a team that will be seriously competitive three years from now. But even if he's the center of the future, he's not the foundation of the team right now.

    Maybe O'Brien's coaching and game planning is what holds Hibbert back, or maybe he just needs a teammate who's going to play tough so Hibbert can play elegant. When discussing Hibbert, we come back again and again to the combination of Rik Smits and Dale Davis. They needed each other. Roy Hibbert hasn't got the team mate that he needs.


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    A point guard who actually intends to initiate the offense wouldn't hurt Hibbert, either.

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    The preceding posts are from guys who are so down on O'Brien that they blame everything on his coaching. Don't believe them.

    In fact, Roy still has a lot to prove at the NBA level. He started well this season, but lately has declined in performance as well as in minutes. He's getting his shot blocked too often and getting too few rebounds. Last year his problem was fouling too much, and roy has solved that by just not making any very serious effort to fill the middle.

    Many of us still believe he is the Pacers' center of the future and one of the building blocks for a team that will be seriously competitive three years from now. But even if he's the center of the future, he's not the foundation of the team right now.

    Maybe O'Brien's coaching and game planning is what holds Hibbert back, or maybe he just needs a teammate who's going to play tough so Hibbert can play elegant. When discussing Hibbert, we come back again and again to the combination of Rik Smits and Dale Davis. They needed each other. Roy Hibbert hasn't got the team mate that he needs.


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    The preceding posts are from guys who are so down on O'Brien that they blame everything on his coaching. Don't believe them.
    Excuse me... What have I said on this forum that justifies the broad brush you just used on my above post? I'm doing my damn best to be objective about what coach is "trying" to do. Granted, I don't agree with how O'Brien is handling Roy, but to say that I'm "so down on him that I blame everything on his coaching" is overstating how I feel quite a bit.
    ...Still "flying casual"
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    Sorry, Gnome. I didn't mean you in particular.

    I should have said said "some of the preceding posts" or I should have quoted Thesterovic and JGray.
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    Unfortunately Roy has one of the flatest shots you will see. Thus he gets his shot blocked and it also reduces his field goal efficiency.
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    Unfortunately Roy has one of the flatest shots you will see. Thus he gets his shot blocked and it also reduces his field goal efficiency.
    I don't think blocked shots are his problem, it's the blocked dunks/layups.

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    It is a long, long and windy road for most centers at they develop - it is amazing to me that so many have drawn so many conclusions on Roy - good and bad. That is why I had that post about Rik Smits in the other thread about Roy maybe not starting tonight - I think a little perspective is needed -patience.

    The only thing I have ever said about Roy is that he isn't my type of center, I like maybe shorter, quicker and more athletic centers - just a personal opinion as I don't like how slower bigger centers like Roy get taken advantage of in pick and rolls and other defensive areas. But then I wasn't a big fan of Rik, Yao, big Z, older Shaq....My ideal center of alltime was Hakeem and he was 6'10"
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    I don't think blocked shots are his problem, it's the blocked dunks/layups.
    Right.

    I don't think his outide shot has been blocked yet. But several dunks or shots that should have been dunks have been blocked.

    My take on it is that he is so used to not having contested shots right next to the basket that he puts it in with finesse rather than force. Soon enough, he'll realize he's not playing against college kids anymore.
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    Right.

    I don't think his outide shot has been blocked yet. But several dunks or shots that should have been dunks have been blocked.

    My take on it is that he is so used to not having contested shots right next to the basket that he puts it in with finesse rather than force. Soon enough, he'll realize he's not playing against college kids anymore.
    Which means he has to shoot more jumpers since he'll realize he doesn't have the ability to take it to the hole...

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    Which means he has to shoot more jumpers since he'll realize he doesn't have the ability to take it to the hole...
    He can't work on throwing it down hard? The dunk is there waiting for him in given scenarios, and he does have the dunk. The problem is he's not putting force behind the attempt. I don't see any reason why he can't improve there.

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    He can't work on throwing it down hard? The dunk is there waiting for him in given scenarios, and he does have the dunk. The problem is he's not putting force behind the attempt. I don't see any reason why he can't improve there.
    I think the problems have come when he's had easy, obvious dunks near the basket. Most players, through a lifetime of experience, learn to go with a hard dunk, or, like a Tyler, position their bodies in such a way that a blocker from their blind side would have to foul.

    I don't think Roy has ever had to really deal with the issue until he reached the NBA.
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