Harris > Ford
this year's CDR > Rush (look at the numbers, look at the way each of them are playing, CDR has been playing at a much higher level than Rush)
Hassel < Granger
Josh Boone < Murphy
Lopez > Hibbert.
Lee < Jones
Alston > Watson
Williams = Tyler
Sean Williams = Jones
Yi < Foster
They have a better starting five, Lee vs Jones is an interesting matchup, we have the much better bench but they still were expecting at least to be 3-13 or 6-10 at this point.
I'd take JOB over Frank.
I'd take Frank over JOB.
I wasn't surprised. Frank has been the coach since 2003-2004. A span that long is pushing your luck in the NBA when you aren't producing, regardless of whether it's really your fault or not.
Van gundy wouldn't accept this job with the team in it's current state. I'd love to have him though.
I like Mark Jackson as a coach,
1) Because the casual fan would support him from the beginning.
2) He would recieve many passes that other seemingly unknown coaches don't normally get from casual, local fans.
3) He did most of his work in the NBA with a pure understanding of the game that will transulate well as he grows with this young team as coach. With one year under his belt he'll be able to adjust his philosphies according to today's NBA game.
Honestly though, JOb isn't that bad. He has shown in the past that he can change his approach to fit the team. He really knows how to get the best out of his players. Furthermore, what line-up hasn't been tried? These many line-up changes show we can't force our game on our opponents, a signal of weak personel, rather than a foolish coach. It's not his fault, but hardcore fans want his throat. So, do what we must.
It's similar to the Charlie Wies situation. Weis hasn't been a terrible coach, but ND isn't winning 9-10 games at all. ND fans haven't quite realized who they are. We're not who we thought we were. We are Stanford, Stanford is ND. Fans see tope five recruiting classes every year, and top 30, at best, performances very year. They score these recruiting classes because of the 5 star offensive players they land time and time again. Besides, that defense couldn't carry a Ball State team anywhere. Plus, 5 star players must do well in school to be called such a titles, so 5 star doesn't mean baddest dude on the planet, but it all doesn't matter to my fellow Irish fans for they want Charlie's head on a plate. So, do what we must.
It'd be nice to keep a coach at some point.
Sorry but why doesn't Lawerence Frank = Jim O'brien to those who like Frank? Other than 13 games winning streak to start his career, what has he done that is more special than Vince Carter, Richard Jefferson and Devon Harris? The Pacers have Granger and..........Jones maybe.
I'm guessing that it depends on what happens between now and the all star break...If they are circling the drain, I think they'll have to. LB did Rick Carlisle during the season, yes?
I'm refusing to vote, not because, on some level, it isn't a legitimate question, but there have been so many similar threads, I just can't decide which one to vote in
No. He did it after the season he gave RC an extension thus having ownership pay the rest of the contract while paying for a new coach(O'Brien) at the same time. The exact thing I feel will happen with O'Brien. If it does, then ownership needs to be asking why Bird is so loose with their money. Maybe he needs to heed to the 3 year rule for others he used for himself. That goes for his contract as Pres too.
Last time the Pacers fired a coach during the season was. drum roll please. Dick Versace December 21, 1990
No way do I want Lawrence Frank. I'm just about done with O'Brien but Frank feels like a sideways step instead of step forward. I'm most interested in Byron Scott for all the reasons previously mentioned. Plus, Chris Paul liked him a lot and I don't think he's very happy with the direction of the NO team...well, I can dream.
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Okay, let me see if I get this straight......
Encouraging a HORRIBLE outside shooter, like Quis, to shoot outside shots, isn't poor coaching.
Using a defensive system, that you're players can't run, or simply don't understand, isn't bad coaching.
Coaching a top 8 team in assists is good coaching.
So basically you're argument is, that poor decisions/performance by the team doesn't reflect JOb's coaching grade, but good decisions/performance by the team does.
What? The players have been understanding the defensive system well enough this season to rank 6th on defensive FG% - it looks a lot better this season. The offense has been more of a problem - but with the personnel - it makes sense in both regards.
My only point is just because you might not like a coaches system that doesn't mean they aren't a good coach or aren't capable of doing a good job.